McLaren MP4-12C

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Frank Fox
Yaaay, finally someone with some common sense.
If someone only read my OP thoroughly...




Since when doesn't a car's cost relate to the car's tires? :odd:
I can asure you that a 70.000euro Exige has better tires than a 180.000euro Gallardo.
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Sounds like you own a mp4-12c, exige and gallardo plus do some track work with them in real life. Else other than reading magazine and daydreaming, I don't see how you seem so sure.

I use continental csc3 on my car. After a few slides and spin on real life circuit time trial, I know its grip ain't too great. Same for Michelin pilot sports 2. In short, tire ain't too great in real life.
 
I love the MP4-12c, it's fast, handles great and looks fantastic.

When it comes to the tyre discussion you're all wrong. Or actually, it's the game that is wrong, because GT5 doesn't take tyres into consideration at all - it straps those arbitrary tyre imitations to the wheels instead. It's like ordering crab meat and getting crab sticks instead - it's not the real deal. Either they didn't have the time and resources to dig depper into the world of tyres (which means that the endurance races are a complete pain because you have to pit at a ratio that's like 10x more often than in real life racing), or they just selected the tyres for each car based on "what makes this thing driveable" rather than "what does the real tyres look like".

This means that there's no point in arguing what tyres are more equal to the real tyres, because 1) they are not tyres - they are tyre imitations, and 2) there is no way of scientifically measuring it because all tests available are in some ways more or less contaminated by other possible flaws in the simulation - you can't isolate the tyres from the rest of the car to test them alone, you can only test them on the car, and that means that a thousand other factors comes into play too, with all their possible modelling flaws (and driver flaws), making the result far off from the reality.

The best thing is to just drop the tyre discussion and simply select tyre imitations based on what kind of driving experience you want - much grip or less grip. That is all the game has to offer. "Real" is not an option.
 
I tried to max both cars on the Nordschleife and I can say that the 458 handles much better on SH, and I was surprised how bad the MP4 handles with them. Thus I was about 4 seconds faster with the 458, check out:



 
The MP4-12C is definitely an odd one to drive. It seems to do the exact opposite of what you want it to do, though that doesn't necessarily make it a bad car ;)

The only thing I recommend changing is the exhaust to Sports. I changed mine, and dropped the power level back to stock using the power limiter. It definitely makes the car much more enjoyable to drive, and sounds far more convincing and closer to the real one than the stock exhaust đź‘Ť
 

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