McLaren Senna (P15)
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Realistically, this kind of car is not being bought even remotely for its looks. I agree, it should at least try to look good, but the people buying these should not care as long as it serves its purpose of providing extreme driving thrills.Overall, the 'base' car is one of the ugliest cars I've seen in recent years.
I thought the rear wing was possibly the worst aspect... then I saw the diffuser on the GTR version
A fool and his money are easily parted.
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These cars aren't being bought to drive - the majority of Senna GTR's will never see a track and will simply sit in someone's airconditioned and dehumidified 'storage facility' as an 'investment'.
Even if they do see a track, it's unlikely the owners will have anywhere near the necessary skills to find the limits of the car.
And there's no reason why it can't perform and look half decent.
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According to Mike Flewitt (McLaren Automotive CEO, and Liverpudlian), the typical Senna buyer is buying two: One for the investment angle, the other to drive.
Don't know about the GTR though - it's not even officially slated for production. The Geneva show car is a market test and interest check.
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Normally I'd have agreed with you, but similar vehicles from other manufacturers are absolutely used on track - notably Ferrari's XX stuff. It's rarely talked about given the privacy most owners wish for, but I expect McLaren, just as Ferrari, Aston Martin etc do, will have dedicated trackdays for GTR clients. You won't see them at the average BookATrack day but then BookATrack doesn't run at places like Yas Marina or COTA...
They're definitely making it
Incidentally, on the whole styling thing - I hated it when the original pics were released. Having now seen a couple in the flesh, it's grown on me a lot more. It doesn't photograph well at all, and it's certainly not what you'd call "pretty", but the aero bits that look weird in pictures just look like incredible bits of engineering in person.
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With these cars, part of what you’re buying into is an opportunity to be trained and given track dates to run the car. McLaren is much like Ferrari where they host events for their clients to run the car, so I’m sure many of them will see the light of day.
Most likely they’ll have 2 year agreements to not be resold either.
Most likely they’ll have 2 year agreements to not be resold either.
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The McLaren Senna GTR will produce a tonne of downforce || Source: Top Gear
Digested the McLaren Speedtail, have you? Good. Because McLaren’s now busying itself turning the Senna GTR track-only special from a Geneva show ‘concept’ into a finished item. A fast one.
To mark the start of the car’s dynamic testing, Woking has confirmed big numbers for the Senna GTR. The headline is downforce: 1,000kg of it, though the speed at which you have a tonne of aerodynamic grip available isn’t disclosed. Not that the Senna GTR will want for speed: its 4.0-litre bi-turbo V8 will develop 814bhp – up from 789bhp in the road-going Senna. Torque output remains 590lb ft.
Ridiculous downforce comes courtesy of the Senna GTR shunning road-legality, and employing active aero banned in the top echelons of motorsport. This sketch shows what to expect from the ‘production’ car – McLaren notes there’s a wider track, wider fenders, a ginormous front splitter (our word, not theirs) and a moveable rear wing ‘coupled’ to the rear diffuser.
We’ve also been given more clues about the Senna GTR’s light-weighting inside. No airbags, no infotainment touchscreen, no folding instrument binnacle – the only concession to comfort is air-conditioning. McLaren’s also included an interesting sounding ‘radar-assisted rear collision avoidance system’, which presumably boosts the car forward if its bonkers braking performance catches out an over-keen track-day goer behind. Or, perhaps it has missiles.
Though there’s no official weight for the Senna GTR yet, McLaren has promised it’ll be lighter than the 1,198kg road-legal Senna. It’ll also cost £1.1m plus local taxes, but the 75 slated to be made are all sold, to brave individuals who desire a car with GT3-spec racing suspension, slick tyres and 3g capability. That’s 3g as in cornering G-force, not on-board internet.
Digested the McLaren Speedtail, have you? Good. Because McLaren’s now busying itself turning the Senna GTR track-only special from a Geneva show ‘concept’ into a finished item. A fast one.
To mark the start of the car’s dynamic testing, Woking has confirmed big numbers for the Senna GTR. The headline is downforce: 1,000kg of it, though the speed at which you have a tonne of aerodynamic grip available isn’t disclosed. Not that the Senna GTR will want for speed: its 4.0-litre bi-turbo V8 will develop 814bhp – up from 789bhp in the road-going Senna. Torque output remains 590lb ft.
Ridiculous downforce comes courtesy of the Senna GTR shunning road-legality, and employing active aero banned in the top echelons of motorsport. This sketch shows what to expect from the ‘production’ car – McLaren notes there’s a wider track, wider fenders, a ginormous front splitter (our word, not theirs) and a moveable rear wing ‘coupled’ to the rear diffuser.
We’ve also been given more clues about the Senna GTR’s light-weighting inside. No airbags, no infotainment touchscreen, no folding instrument binnacle – the only concession to comfort is air-conditioning. McLaren’s also included an interesting sounding ‘radar-assisted rear collision avoidance system’, which presumably boosts the car forward if its bonkers braking performance catches out an over-keen track-day goer behind. Or, perhaps it has missiles.
Though there’s no official weight for the Senna GTR yet, McLaren has promised it’ll be lighter than the 1,198kg road-legal Senna. It’ll also cost £1.1m plus local taxes, but the 75 slated to be made are all sold, to brave individuals who desire a car with GT3-spec racing suspension, slick tyres and 3g capability. That’s 3g as in cornering G-force, not on-board internet.
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Hopefully it'll look better then the road car 
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I just think for that money for a track car you can get stuff that’s turn-key and still as quick (like a Radical RXC Turbo, maybe an LMP2) or almost for a quarter of the price. Or something that’s more interesting like an Group C car.
I can fully understand with the road car but the ‘race’ car makes less sense.
I can fully understand with the road car but the ‘race’ car makes less sense.
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At least the livery is nice
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