Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

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It's quite in the beginning after Snake was dropped for the second time cos the first time he was hurt (broken arm - nice meet-up with the Boss).

Yeah I understand that. This can be a bit annoying cos I don't know how big some areas are :(
 
You're after the swamp. To look for mines, you should have collected the mine detector from the Grozny Grad (sp?) place where you met Sokolov. It's in or around a locker.

Second, you can use the Thermal Goggles to look for mines.

If you don't have either, crawl on the ground a collect the mines. Takes forever, but at least you wont blow up or alert the guards.

Yeah, the camera angles suck in this game. Get MGS3:Substance. It's A LOT better.
 
Solid Lifters
You're after the swamp. To look for mines, you should have collected the mine detector from the Grozny Grad (sp?) place where you met Sokolov. It's in or around a locker.

Second, you can use the Thermal Goggles to look for mines.

If you don't have either, crawl on the ground a collect the mines. Takes forever, but at least you wont blow up or alert the guards.

Yeah, the camera angles suck in this game. Get MGS3:Substance. It's A LOT better.
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Ups haven't found both *ups* Yeah I'm using Substance and it's ok.

Cool didn't know that I can collect the mines. Will have a try later on.
 
Use the Directional Mic to listen for his breathing.
Also you can tranque his parrot and release it it'll fly noisily to him.
Sometimes you'll catch a glint off his scope too.
The thermal goggles can come in handy if you are close to him, or when he runs, you can follow his foot prints.
There is another way, but it is a bit cheesy.
 
Silverzone
I feel retarded, but I can't beat The End.. Can't ever find the old man.
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That's the best boss battle of all time, for all games included.

The best way to find him has already been offered. Use your map and look for white circles. Those are his sniping points. Sneak up behind him if you think you know where he is. Stay out of his line of fire. It's very possible. Red circle means he's located at that sniping point.

Use all your equipment and weapons. One way is to use the fake death pill. He comes right to you. Then, use your survival pill and nail him. It's probably the "cheesy" method mentioned earlier, but it works.

Next, I'd just use the Mic and the map. Circle 360 degrees slowly and you'll hear his breathing or talking.

Next, look for his bird. It's usually around you keeping and eye on you. So is every other animal. He uses animals to see you. Kill them all and you can to better sneak up on him. Use the thermal goggles to find the animals and his bird. But, don't kill his bird; tranq it, capture it and then let it go. The bird will fly over his head screaming, "Grandpa! Grandpa!" He tells it to shut up frequently and you can easily hear him with the mic. Then, look at the map and the red circle will be the sniping point he's at.

Next, wait for it to rain, and he'll fall asleep. You can sneak up on him more easy that way. But, he can still see and hear you, just not as well.

Again, look for his scope glint in the sunlight. As a general rule, if you know where he is, you can set up mines all around any possible escape routes he might use. Be careful running after him. You don't want to run over your own mines.

Once upon him, use thermal goggles to follow his footprints and run after him. Use all these methods, and you can bag him in about 10-12 minutes. The first time it took me 45 minutes to bag him, but it was fun as hell!
 
I think that my favorite part of this game was when you're climbing up the long ladder to get to the top of the mountains. You're just climbing up this ladder for at least a few minutes, and the vocal track of the theme song starts to play faintly in the background... it's really dramatic and emotional.
 
Heh, the first time I battle The End, I didn't have Thermal Googles nor the common sense to use the Directional Mic. I spent like 20 minutes just crawling around, but I never saw him. So, in the end, I just ran around hoping to get his attention. When he takes a shot at me, the map automatically shows his location. Then, I can stalk him around following his footprints. Took me about an hour but I managed to sneak up on him while he's sleeping, get his uniform, and kill him.

I have to say, it was one of the funnest boss battles that I've fought.
 
Rollo Tomasi
I think that my favorite part of this game was when you're climbing up the long ladder to get to the top of the mountains. You're just climbing up this ladder for at least a few minutes, and the vocal track of the theme song starts to play faintly in the background... it's really dramatic and emotional.
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Definitely. A detail like that while you're playing the game really adds to the experience.
As for The End I always go with the same strategy Seanman mentioned, except I always start the battle that way so it doesn't take as long. Not to mention it's the quickest way to get his camo and stamina-kill him, giving you the Mosin Nagant which is crucial to stamina-kill The Boss, particularly in the upper levels of difficulty.
In 'Hard' or above I find it near impossible to subdue The Boss without the The End's rifle, the Mk22 doesn't quite get the job done and going for CQC attacks against her in those levels is pretty much suicidal.

Lately I've been playing the game like crazy, trying to finish with the least amount of alerts possible, people killed, etc. I can't resist capturing poisonous snakes and throwing them at guards though, that's just hilarious.
 
Solid Lifters
Then, use your survival pill and nail him. It's probably the "cheesy" method mentioned earlier, but it works.
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Nah, the cheesy method was the death by natural causes mentioned by Godzilla_GTR. It works, and gets you another video, but is still kinda odd.

I'd forgotten about the fake death pill. That works quite well.

Another kinda cheesy one eliminates the need to fight him at all, but requires a good quick sniper shot. This can be done when you first see him after swimming along the river. You can, if you're fast, shoot him after the cut scene as he's being wheeled back inside. I think you need to take out the guard first, then him.

But then instead of fighting him you have several of Ocelots men in the woods instead. You also lose the chance to get his rifle or uniform.
 
Sephiroth976
There is another way, but it is a bit cheesy.
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Is that the one where you press up, down, up, down, left, right, left, right, square, circle when your in the map viewer? I used it...Im so ashamed:(

Solid Lifters
You're after the swamp. To look for mines, you should have collected the mine detector from the Grozny Grad (sp?) place where you met Sokolov. It's in or around a locker.

Second, you can use the Thermal Goggles to look for mines.
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You can also use the googles to look for breaks in the electric fence to crawl through which will save you a lot of time.
 
Hey, I forgot about those two!

The code works, but not all the time. I don't really need it, but it's fun to use, sometimes.

Yeah, killing The End and the docks is easy and fun. I like the flying wheel. But, facing all those Ocelot guys is more difficult, I think.

So many ways to kill The End, and they're all fun! 👍

On a side note, MGS3 online will go down April 3, or around there. I used it once, and it was HORRIBLE. The graphics sucked; I couldn't see anybody else, unless they were right in front of me. Plus, so many guys were completely invisible when the stealth suit wasn't even available according to the game rules set up. Cheaters suck.
 
Solid Lifters
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On a side note, MGS3 online will go down April 3, or around there. I used it once, and it was HORRIBLE. The graphics sucked; I couldn't see anybody else, unless they were right in front of me. Plus, so many guys were completely invisible when the stealth suit wasn't even available according to the game rules set up. Cheaters suck.
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Yeah, on April 2nd, I'm actually wondering if it's an elaborate April Fool's joke... or maybe I'm in denial. :indiff:

I understand somewhat why you don't like it. It can be annoying as all hell sometimes, but the graphics were about the same as Snake Eater IMO, and about not seeing anybody else I'm not quite sure I understand. Stealth is only available online if you play as Sokolov or Snake, and it's not that great since the battery for it runs out very quickly. It is, however, very common to get picked off by snipers, whom are hard to see unless you have very good knowledge of the sniping points for each map.

Glitchers are an extremely common plague in MGO unfortunately. They mostly pull dead body or ladder glitches, where in your screen they appear as dead or simply sitting there on a ladder, while in their screen they're running around killing guys left and right. I'd say they only constitute about 35% of the annoyingness though.
Clans and 13-year-olds who think they are the s*** because they have a "Doberman" of "Fox" ranked account, make for a larger 60%. And the remaining 5% are laggers who simply don't have a fast enough connection, so when you kill them with a headshot they die a few seconds (sometimes several) after you fired the shot.

As far as gameplay goes, Metal Gear Online is the complete opposite of Snake Eater, if you lay still trying to blend in with the tall grass you'll might as well put up a sign that says "free kills!"
You have to keep moving at all times, even if you play as a sniper you have to switch places constantly.

That said, I will miss it dearly. It isn't easy finding a room with no glitchers and people who are mature enough, but when you do, you are bound to have a sweet time.
 
I played in a room that was knife fight only. Some jerk who was completely invisible kept stabbing me. The Stealth Suit wasn't allowed.

In another room, I shot a guy in the head a bunch of times and he doesn't even die. If I get shot once in the head, I die instantly.

The only tactic for the game is running constantly tossing grenades, then using the shotgun while running fast the entire time. That ain't fun.

Half the time I played, a guy on our own side would kill us. I blocked him, but he could still play and kill us.

MGO was a failure. I hope Konami get's it right with MGS4 online.
 
Solid Lifters
I played in a room that was knife fight only. Some jerk who was completely invisible kept stabbing me. The Stealth Suit wasn't allowed.

In another room, I shot a guy in the head a bunch of times and he doesn't even die. If I get shot once in the head, I die instantly...
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Sounds like major lag, either your connection was slow at the time, or the guy's was. Lagging is another form of cheating glitchers take, they set their upload speed to 512 kbps or higher in their network settings, when their connection probably only puts out 256 max. Unless the host of the room is doing this (or he's in a clan with the guy lagging) you can ask him or her to kick the lagger out and more often than not they'll be glad to.
Personally I never go into knife only rooms.

...The only tactic for the game is running constantly tossing grenades, then using the shotgun while running fast the entire time. That ain't fun...
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Nine out of 10 rooms don't allow the shotgun to be used, or stun grenades either. The shotgun kills a helpless guy in 2 shots, and "stunades", when used in excess as is often the case, white out everybody's screen for like 20 seconds. I'm just saying if you try playing/surviving like that you'll get kicked out rather swiftly. THAT's even less fun.

...Half the time I played, a guy on our own side would kill us. I blocked him, but he could still play and kill us...
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There is a way to defend a room from morons that do this too, however most hosts forget to apply it. There is a teammate kill limit option (usually 3 kills) when you start a room, any player that goes over that limit gets automatically kicked out on the spot.
Also, blocking a player isn't possible. If you had a "BL" icon appear next to his name in the start menu it means you blacklisted him, that let's you know later on in which room the player is to avoid runnning into him again. Sadly, I admit to having to clean my blacklist more than once just to make room for new idiots that came online more often. :grumpy:

I'm not by any means trying to convince you to give the game another chance or something, especially now that it's being taken down. I'm just saying how I deal with those things to get the most out of the game. :)

I mean...

MGO was a failure. I hope Konami get's it right with MGS4 online.
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I would have to agree, and I'm definitely hoping for more secure online gameplay in MGS4.
 
It's really cool, but like I said the game is very fast paced, there's no upside to sitting still. If you're good you're just camping and it's annoying to everyone else, and if you're bad you'll get killed, all the time. Most of the maps are awesome and there are plenty of tactics to outsmart your opponents. The weapons are all the same ones you use in Snake Eater, with the addition of the flamethrower. You also get special abilities if you're playing as a special character. As Ocelot you get the option of having the Single Action Army and ricochet bullets off walls like in MGS3, as Raikov you can stun people by grabbing them in the crotch with the CQC button. :D
Having a USB keyboard and headset never hurts either, especially the keyboard. Typing with the controller is most frustrating.

Essentially, if you can create your own rooms and have a decent connection it's pretty much awesome the entire time, because you can get rid of any players that give you crap and lag isn't likely to be an issue.

If you can't create your own rooms (my case) you need to listen to what hosts put up in the comment boxes of their room (no shotgun, glitching, camping etc.) Respect if you want to be respected, don't go into clan rooms unless you want to join them or think you can take them on, blacklist glitchers and teamkillers, and add players that are polite and fun to play with to your friend list.

Edit: About MGS4 Online. It would appear as though it will have much tighter security. 👍
 
Thnx for the info man. I played MGS: Portable Ops and had a lot of fun with it. I Think that i will buy the MGS3: Subsistence:)
 
Well don't forget that the MGO server is still going to be shut down. Although there are some cool goodies to enjoy in Subsistence other than the online mode.
 
The bike ones are the only ones I don't have

Tip for those who may not know, if you get the Kerotan Camo (got little ducks on it), it lets you know which ones you are missing ;)
 
Slick Rick
Has anyone tried shooting all the Kerotan? How do you get the ones while your on the bike? Their a b***h!
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The trick here is saving after every "Frog" point during the "bike ride." When the screen goes black, and you know you got the frog before it went black, you can save your point. Then, continue with that next stage. If you miss the frog, or if you're not completely sure you got him, reload the stage and do it over. People don't realize you can save at multiple areas of the "bike ride," which is quite long. That's what I did to bag all those Kerotan.

Using the "Duck" uniform is very useful, as stated before. Just pause the game by going to the user window and then go back to hear them calling.

Plus, an online Kerotan guide doesn't hurt. There's one with pictures of their exact location. It helped me find the one Kerotan I kept missing. The one at the building bridge with the two guards you need to salute. I never thought to look for one there.

Useful tips for nailing the Kerotan while on the bike are simple. Use the big machine gun and the rocket launcher. The sniper rifle is great, too, and necessary in some parts.
 
Ahh so whats this 'duck' uniform btw?

Im also trying to capture all the different types of food atm, I think I got 47 types on my last go. How many are there, and how do I get the hard to find ones?
 
48 types of food - did you catch and eat the tsuchinoko? In the woods where you fight the fear lay a trap or two, leave the area and come back. there is a chance you'll have one. It looks like a fat snake.

duck camo is the GA-KO camo, found in Chyrornyj Prud. it lets you know if you've caught a Kerotan or not in an area by making the pad vibrate as you go in and out of the menu.
 
MOTHER FOOKER! So I just needed the bloody turd snake! How annoying is that:(

Do you have to do anything special to get the GA-KO camo or is it just lying around?
 
You can also trap a turd snake there, if you need it (Swamp). There are other places too, but they take for ever to catch.

Don't forget the three white snakes you find fighting The Boss, oh and The End's parrot.
 

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