Miata sized Toyota Sports Car in development

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mustafur
The problem is toyota seem to be going the CVT only route.

The Japanese really need to get it through their heads that no one wants CVT junk.

If you must go auto get a ZF unit or get a double clutch.
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The 86 is either manual or torque converter auto. I don't see any indication that future sports cars will have a CVT.
 
homeforsummer
The 86 is either manual or torque converter auto. I don't see any indication that future sports cars will have a CVT.
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Look at the link I put down for the near production ready concept.

It's saying a 1.5L mated to a Hybrid system using CVT.

Chances are it is using the Prius C Mechanicals, if this is the final spec.

http://carsales.mobi/editorial/details/ED-ITM-51330

Although nothing completely official, we will know by October at the Tokyo motorshow which the car will likely be revealed in production ready spec or close to it.
 
Sorry, I missed that before.

I'd love to see something like that appear, CVT or not. Though frankly I'd be very surprised if a) they actually made something like that and b) if they did make something like that, it was anything other than a kei car.

It'd be interesting to know what the Japanese text on the page says - whether the details on that site are a translation, or whether it's all speculation. Not that the Japanese text itself isn't likely to be speculation anyway.
 
I think the design itself seems far too radical for toyota, but they seem pretty adamant this is the direction they are going with by the sources.

If they do go ahead with this then i don't really see it as an 86 style car, just looks like an alternative sports car.
 
The article claims it is front engine, rear drive. I don't buy it. With the driver in the center of the car, where is there room for the prop/drive shaft to go? Where does the gearbox go? Also too, the front looks far too narrow for an engine and its ancillaries to be installed. From the pictures, the only realistic way, for me, that concept works is electric power. Motors in back, batteries up front. It wouldn't be a bad thing in the slightest....it would be a hilariously fun city car.
 
YSSMAN
I think FCA, Land Rover/Jaguar, and Honda might tell us to avoid some of those ZF boxes for a bit...
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Not BMW(Every Non M car is using basically the same ZF gearbox)

ZF is probably the biggest Transmission specialist in the world, allthough most of their products are in the heavy Duty commercial range of vehicles.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
It wouldn't be a bad thing in the slightest....it would be a hilariously fun city car.
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Agreed. I'll never forgive VW for not following through with their own take on the concept, the Nils:

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Would definitely rock something like that as a commuter car. I do ~15 miles a day. Something small, light and using barely any electricity would suit me perfectly. And that Toyota rendering doesn't seem dissimilar.
 
homeforsummer
Agreed. I'll never forgive VW for not following through with their own take on the concept, the Nils:

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Would definitely rock something like that as a commuter car. I do ~15 miles a day. Something small, light and using barely any electricity would suit me perfectly. And that Toyota rendering doesn't seem dissimilar.
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The twizy looks kind of fun in a small terrier sort of way.
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They look much cooler in person to be honest. Saw a few of them in Paris last year.
 
The Twizy is quite good fun to drive too, but realistically only works if you're either in a warm climate or if you're prepared to wrap up warm every journey in colder climates.
 
MR2 successor confirmed
Toyota is set once again to be a major player in the performance car market. Echoing its line-up of 20 years ago, the heart of its sporting range will be 'The Three Brothers', according to legendary Toyota engineer, and Gazoo Racing chief, Tetsuya Tada.

That means a new Supra, the GT86 taking the place once held by successive generations of Celica, and a spiritual successor to the MR2 in the form of a lightweight sports car. Tada-San expressed Toyota’s desire to have the trio in production together 'As soon as possible'. With other performance "specials" like the new Yaris GRNM hot hatch, Toyota’s driver-focused offering should soon be unrecognisable from the barren period of recent years.

The confirmation of a compact, MR2-sized car is fantastic news for driving enthusiasts, and should at last mean some competition for the Mazda MX-5 in the segment. It isn't clear exactly what form this car will take, though it could be similar to the Toyota S-FR concept revealed at the 2015 Tokyo motor show.
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EVO
 
Please be the S-FR. Please be the S-FR.

Doesn't the GT86 take the place of the car it references in its name, though? I'd be fine with the successor bringing back the Celica name, though...

Also, just realized how awkwardly "GRNM" rolls off the tongue. Grenum? Grrrnom? Gee-Are-En-Em?
 
Especially when that's a typo - it's meant to be Gazoo Racing Meister of the Nordschleife isn't it?
 
GRMN - Sounds like German or Gremlin. :P

I would have preferred just GR (Gazoo Racing)
 
Their best shot, is to keep the new car FR. I loved the MR-S, but staying true to the S800, Celica/Supra and AE86, would be the best move for Toyota.
 
I know everyone is pining for new great FR cars, but really, I would even be happy if Toyota made a truly great fwd sports coupe as well.
 
Please be an MR2.
Please be an MR2.
Please be an MR2.

SlipZtrEm
Ah, so it is. So, "women" with a growl out front, sort of? Gremin?

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No idea if it's just my connection, but your images took an awful long time to show up for me.
 

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