Microsoft's Desperate Act!

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Spring 2006. But whether this is a universal release date (as in a simultaneous release in Europe, Japan, and America) or just a release date for Japan is yet to be confirmed. I think they could do little worse than to push it any further than 6 months from the Xbox 360 release, which if I'm mistaken, is in November.
 
im expecting it to be released mid 2006 for Japan with the US to follow shortly in late 2006, with a christmas 2006 or eairly 2007 for us Europeans. :(

I just hope they follow suit and take a leaf out of the PSP's book and make all games region free.

Div is back
You are just like me, a regular member.

Nah what ya talking about div, you are respected on the forum especially at the GT4 Photomode scene. 👍
 
Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

I think that if the release date of the PS3 is too far from Xbox360, Sony might have some problems. :nervous: I remember MS talking about releasing Halo 3 at the release date of the PS3 to hurt some of its sales. If Sony puts up a release date early enough to make Bungie rush its product, Halo 3 could be a poorly made game. :crazy:
 
McLaren'sAngel
Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

I think that if the release date of the PS3 is too far from Xbox360, Sony might have some problems. :nervous: I remember MS talking about releasing Halo 3 at the release date of the PS3 to hurt some of its sales. If Sony puts up a release date early enough to make Bungie rush its product, Halo 3 could be a poorly made game. :crazy:

Yeh good point, but i cant see this happening, No matter what happens Sony wont rush to get it out, especially now that all specs and proformance benchmarks have been shown, with the x-box lacking some of the whamm that PS3 has shown, they know its a better machine and probably know its all over, and also i dont think that Halo will squash the sales of PS3 especially if the release titles include either Killzone 2 or any other great looking titles, it wont be up to the job.

In fact i see that if the release is done to a time when Sony is fully satified with the product i would rarther have this, than a PS3 that is poorly made and rushed, and whos to say that the release of the 360 isnt a rush job, so they can get the release before Sony, and if this is true then 360 will be eve more Naff then is expected.
 
The poblem now isn't finishing the PS3, it's almost finished in terms of specs and buiding working units, the GPU I think is the last major part to be completed. Now what Sony need to do is prepare to manufacture as soon as thats done. The last few months of waiting are almost purely down to manufacture, packaging and distribution. Think about it, you don't produce a couple of million computers like the PS3 overnight. Once the product is finished from the development side of things they can make mistakes in the prouction if they push to get them out too fast. The other side to the last few months is the lauch games, the consoles release date won't be set in stone until Sony knows that this, this and that game will be ready for launch, they won't release the PS3 with hardly any games ready for it. So once the consoles development is done they still have to wait, then they time the production to match whent he games will be ready so that enough PS3's will have been made, boxed and out the door a few days before launch along with the games.
 
live4speed
So once the consoles development is done they still have to wait, then they time the production to match whent he games will be ready so that enough PS3's will have been made, boxed and out the door a few days before launch along with the games.

Remember the PS2 release? You had to pay beyond retail for one because of the shortages. I wonder if Sony will use the same plan with the PS3. :scared:
 
Possibly, deliberately not meeting demand at lauch isn't bad idea all thetime because you can use the free publicity when magazine articles in the papers appear about people paying so much or going so far out of thier way to get hold of one.
 
Swift
Remember the PS2 release? You had to pay beyond retail for one because of the shortages. I wonder if Sony will use the same plan with the PS3. :scared:


lol yeh :D £380 for a PS2 at launch but some idiots were paying close to a £1000 for an import, but i guess if ya want the gizmos and you have got the cash then why not.

PS3 isnt finished IMO because if it was there would be playable booths at TGS if it was so close to a release like late this year or earlie next, then we would be seeing playable demos of people playing 💡 like the kid with the 360 at his house :D so (and its just a guess) that the PS3 is way off i mean we have only started to see games that are running ingame at E3 & TGS, i saw the first 360 demo just under a year ago.

i could be way off left field with my predictions for,

Q2 2006 for Japanese/NTSC
Q3 for 2006 USA/NTSC
Q4/Q1 for 2006/2007 Euro/PAL

Could be even later but surly Sony wont delay that long? would they?
 
sprite
Q2 2006 for Japanese/NTSC
Q3 for 2006 USA/NTSC
Q4/Q1 for 2006/2007 Euro/PAL

Could be even later but surly Sony wont delay that long? would they?

PD did. :sly:
 
sprite
i could be way off left field with my predictions for,

Q2 2006 for Japanese/NTSC
Q3 for 2006 USA/NTSC
Q4/Q1 for 2006/2007 Euro/PAL

Could be even later but surly Sony wont delay that long? would they?

Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

That sounds reasonable to me. :O 👍

I still have a feeling that Sony have something up their sleeves....mmmmmm.

Something like:

Only price for PS3 = 499.99 BUT....you get these special offer!

??GB Hardrive
2 Controllers
1 Blu-Ray remote control

The following three games of your choice:

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot
Killzone 2
Grand Theft Auto : Welcome to Miami (made this up)
We REALLY LOVE Katamary Damacy

and the list goes on! :O 👍
 
McLaren'sAngel
Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)


Grand Theft Auto : Welcome to Miami (made this up)


that be vice city :lol:

i think it would be hilarious if microsoft went out all big and proud and fell flat on their faces. i mean, how longs the X-box been around? its still got a good life and theyre rushing the 360 i think.👎

as for the Ps2 availibility problems, you do what i did (and am going to do again). wait a few months, let some games come out, let some bugs be ironed out, let the prices fall, and then buy a console and games for the original console cost :dopey::dopey:
 
chinko
that be vice city :lol:

i think it would be hilarious if microsoft went out all big and proud and fell flat on their faces. i mean, how longs the X-box been around? its still got a good life and theyre rushing the 360 i think.👎

as for the Ps2 availibility problems, you do what i did (and am going to do again). wait a few months, let some games come out, let some bugs be ironed out, let the prices fall, and then buy a console and games for the original console cost :dopey::dopey:

Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

I haven't played Vice City for a long time, so I must have forgotten where that game takes place. :crazy:

mmmm Microsoft going out proud and falling right on their face would sure be something big to laugh at. :lol: But if Sony fall on their face, I would cry. :(
 
I'm late to this one.. :lol: ...don't usually stray outside the GT4 forums, but I'm bored. :sly:

My take: The XBox360 seems like a serious contender, and I don't doubt it'll sell on its own merits, especially in the US. But the things that'l make it sell well in the US won't translate overseas.

As far as I've seen, the XBox's strengths seem to be FPS's, online play, and sports titles, all fanboy favorites in the US.

1. Personally speaking, and from having seen the gaming culture in Europe and Asia, FPS's are best left on the PC. With the ease of assembling a non-branded PC outside the US (not pirated, mind you, just non-branded) that'll delivered higher framerates and details than the PS2 or XBox, as well as the abundance of internet cafes and the skydiving prices of Cable and DSL, most FPS players will stay on the PC. More games, lots of customizable content on download, and more competition. If you have an XBox outside the US, how do you hook up? If you have a PC shooter, you can hook up to users from ten different countries who are closer to you (less lag) and willing to play at the same time.

Microsoft's power online counts on having enough players close to each other to take advantage of the service. That's VERY important. If you have no one to play with, why go online?

2. Microsoft has some great sports titles, but the PS2 carries more titles that are Euro-Asia friendly (basketball and "futbol"). Microsoft REALLY needs to attract these guys.

Also, RPGs and RTSs rule the gaming scene online nowadays. The PS2 has some great RPGs, and even though they're not as vast as the MMORPGs all the kids are playing, they're close enough to encourage the kids (and we're talking pre-teens and young teens here) who make up the bulk of the market to step up to the console. That's another market MS has to target to gain more sales.

3. The Playstation killed the Dreamcast ( :( ) and the N64 ( :( :( :( ) with the sheer volume of titles available. As anyone could make a PS title, it became the default option for every developer. Microsoft may be trying the same attack, but unlike Sony, they can't guarantee humongous sales outside the US. Does it matter if you're saving $25-$30 a game if you could be selling two to three times as many? It's something a lot of developers will have to think of.... and very hard.

4. One of Sony's biggest selling points has to be the excellent standard controller and the sheer number of peripherals available for PS2s. We're finally getting peripherals for XBoxes (here in Asia), but not in the number, variety and cheapness of PS1/PS2 controllers (helps that the systems are compatible to some extent). And the backwards compatibility (that I HOPE Sony keeps) counts for a lot when building a fan base or aftermarket base.

P.S.: I've seen USB Dual Shock clones around... never since the original Nintendo gamepad has one controller so changed the scene in terms of gaming controllers.

Finally:

It would be sad if MS failed with the XBox. Choice is the right of the consumer. A Playstation monopoly would be bad for consumers, as that'd keep prices high. With three or four different console options out, it'll force Sony to stay competitive and keep developing.

At least with the sheer number of games developers out, we're never going to be out of choices when it comes to games.
 
niky
It would be sad if MS failed with the XBox. Choice is the right of the consumer. A Playstation monopoly would be bad for consumers, as that'd keep prices high. With three or four different console options out, it'll force Sony to stay competitive and keep developing.

Agreed 👍, but i would rarther have someone els, instead of MS, chalenging Sony, either Sega or Nintendo.
 
chinko
as for the Ps2 availibility problems, you do what i did (and am going to do again). wait a few months, let some games come out, let some bugs be ironed out, let the prices fall, and then buy a console and games for the original console cost :dopey::dopey:
No you pre-order one so you get one early then when you get it you advertise it on e-bay for a large ammount and make a profitthen using that profit you buy another PS3 when they're available again for the retail prices. That way you get the PS3 for free and make some money while your at it which can pay for a few games.
 
live4speed
No you pre-order one so you get one early then when you get it you advertise it on e-bay for a large ammount and make a profitthen using that profit you buy another PS3 when they're available again for the retail prices. That way you get the PS3 for free and make some money while your at it which can pay for a few games.

:lol: thats a good idea. i wouldnt have the money to get one when it first comes out though 👎
 
live4speed
No you pre-order one so you get one early then when you get it you advertise it on e-bay for a large ammount and make a profitthen using that profit you buy another PS3 when they're available again for the retail prices. That way you get the PS3 for free and make some money while your at it which can pay for a few games.

But people that do that deserve to burn in hell for sheer lameness.

Not that the people that paid £500 for a (badly manufactured, early and with crap launch games) PS2 are much better! Still if your moneys burning that much of a hole in your pocket, go ahead ;)
 
^ :lol:

ive never bought a console when its just been released. i always wait for the price to come down a bit and bugs to be ironed out. its worked so far :)
 
chinko
^ :lol:

ive never bought a console when its just been released. i always wait for the price to come down a bit and bugs to be ironed out. its worked so far :)

So true. I got a release Xbox with what I think is the sorriest DVD drive put in a system (Thompson drive) while my friends who got theirs later got Samsung drives(or the other drive). I'm not going to get a system at release again until maybe like a year after it is released. I didn't get the PS2 until the slim PStwo came out in October. Reason for that was my Xbox decided to crap out on me last Summer/Fall and I refuse to send it to MS to get it repaired for $100.
 
chinko
what was up with the tompson drives though??

I've always thought of it as a lesser quality drive compared to the drives they changed in the later releases. My Thompson refused to read CD-R and CD-RW and some music CDs (ie Jay-Z - The Black Album). It's been a long time since I kept up on the Xbox and researched on the drives but forgot where I read the Pros and Cons of the drives.
 
dropzone
So true. I got a release Xbox with what I think is the sorriest DVD drive put in a system (Thompson drive) while my friends who got theirs later got Samsung drives(or the other drive). I'm not going to get a system at release again until maybe like a year after it is released. I didn't get the PS2 until the slim PStwo came out in October. Reason for that was my Xbox decided to crap out on me last Summer/Fall and I refuse to send it to MS to get it repaired for $100.

I bought my then new Xbox in dec 2003, and was rather dissapointed and appalled when I opened it up to fit a mod chip when it was a Thompson DVD drive. :(

It explains why it won't read CDRs, barely reads DVDRs and even original discs like midtown madness 3 and RalliSport Challenge 2 crash with disc read errors. The model code also isn't an early xbox.

Still with an 120GB harddrive its not like I have to use it very often anymore ;)
 
funny thing is..

My x box reads CD-R's no problem..

has no DVD reading problems..

and never caught my carpet on fire..

but my PS2...broke in 1 month..

2nd one broke in 3 months..

3rd one never gets used
 

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