Most Over-rated car

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The stupid unlimited-slip center differential is the downfall of many GT3 4WD's. All the power wants to go to the front wheels in the Ecuder and the CTR-2 'cause of the lack of weight up front... and I even tried 10 front, 90 rear dist. and STILL those front wheels are spinning like crazy when I come to a stop... they have to come out of warp 5, while the rear ones roll to a stop.
 
wether he is talking about vcd or lsd... his wheels should not be spinning like crazy when he has come to a stop... that just makes no sense... how can you wheels be spinning when you are stoped... i dun get it...hmmmm....

neon... if he is running slicks or super slicks... he wont be pittin every 5 more like 25-30 for the c5r... but i agree... the viper is the better am race car... even tho i dislike it... it is much more even on the tires... in fact i think it is shorter as well and just handles nth degrees better...
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
How did you manage that? You must have been in the pits every 5 laps! That thing eats front tires like they were breath mints, and it handles like a barge as soon as the front tires turn orange. The Oreca Viper is just as fast, and is much much easier and more even on tires.

I used it for endurances. I used super-slicks and ran smooth laps instead of trying to run best laps. My times barely fell off when the fronts turn orange.
 
what about the xr8, thats very underated, it never gets a second look here for some reason.... i quite like it, but maybe thats cos im aussie :D
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
How did you manage that? You must have been in the pits every 5 laps! That thing eats front tires like they were breath mints, and it handles like a barge as soon as the front tires turn orange. The Oreca Viper is just as fast, and is much much easier and more even on tires.

Well I don't have any problem with the C5R burning up tires. I got the fronts to last 24 laps at Seattle with very consistent laps. I also used the Viper and it wasn't too much better, only 26 laps. And up until the end of the 24th lap, I wasn't having any problem with the handling of the C5R . . . but it couldn't have gone any longer, that was it for the tires. There were pretty dark orange by that time. Light orange handling wasn't bad at all. I was pushing as hard as I could and getting pretty good times. Now only if I knew how to turn so that the tires don't get as bad. I'm sure if I knew how to tune to not eat up tires, I could probably get about 2 or 3 more laps out of the tires.

But the Skylines are kinda overrated . . . not the race ones though, they are pretty good. Too much understeer in the road cars. The Escudo is way overrated . . . who cares what you can top out in it? I don't see what people see in the Gillet Vertigo either. The Formula 1 cars are overrated too . . . they are just too easy to destroy the computer with.

I think people kinda overlook the 206 Rally Car . . . and instead go for the Imprezas and Lancers. It's such a great car . . . just needs the power of the Impreza prototype or the Focus. It's very consistent and easy to manage when rallying.
 
Originally posted by Sominon
Don't bash the C5R, if your front wheels are still getting eaten up you haven't played with the settings yet.

I don't know why you would bash the C5R . . . 24 laps on one set of tires on GT3 isn't nothing too bad. The most I've gotten out of a set of tires is 26 laps . . . so that means 24 isn't too bad.
 
24 laps on super slicks is not great... you can get 40 out of cars with 600-700 hp and 1 df front and back... 24 is average... but i am not bashing hte c5r... its nothing close to the boat that some make it out to be... and is very comprable to the viper oreca... the oreca is easier to handle... i think the vette is slightly longer... could be wrong... i definitely think the c5r looks 100 times better...
 
So far in my collection i feel that the Big RUF is highly overrated.
I can keep the bastard on the road.
I have set this and set that, but still nothing.
If anyone has managed to tame it please let me know.
 
Originally posted by bengee
24 laps on super slicks is not great... you can get 40 out of cars with 600-700 hp and 1 df front and back... 24 is average... but i am not bashing hte c5r... its nothing close to the boat that some make it out to be... and is very comprable to the viper oreca... the oreca is easier to handle... i think the vette is slightly longer... could be wrong... i definitely think the c5r looks 100 times better...

So basically you get 40 laps out of a car that has no downforce? Well the car is only going to handle so well then. Out of how I have the Viper and C5R setup, the C5R handles better. I've found the Viper to have alittle more wheelspin than the C5R. I agree with you on the look of the C5R, I would of the car rather been the 63 car. But if I knew anything about being less abrasive on the tires from a tuning standpoint, I'm sure I could get more laps out of the C5R. So let me just ask you, between the two cars, which do you prefer?

And is it just me, or did PD give the C5R an extremely weak sounding 427?
 
Originally posted by VashTheStampede

And is it just me, or did PD give the C5R an extremely weak sounding 427?

no its not you they did give it a weak sound
 
For the C5R, to decrease front tire wear decrease front downforce. You can also run harder tires on the front than on the rear. It matters not how many laps you get between pit stops as long as you can run longer on your tires than the AI, with similar lap times. If you can run twice as far as the AI between pit stops, then you can win in a slower car. (See my thread on running the Rome Enduro in an MR-S.)

The RGT feels faster, but driven conservatively, the CTR is actually blindingly fast. Like 2 seconds a lap faster than the RGT. One of the things to remember is that with the Porsche/Ruf Rear weight bias, you will get oversteer if you lift off the throttle once you've got weight shifted to the outside of the turn. You can also dial out the understeer by raising the rear of the car. Then you can drive it in a more conventional manner.

The Esperante is an interesting car. If you try to drive it right out of the box you won't be impressed with it at all. Especially if you bought it rather than won it. Once it is properly set up with the tranny also properly set up, it is quite tame, and very fast.

The Vertigo is simply the fastest thing in the game under 500HP. And faster than much of the competition OVER 500 HP. Still, it has to be set up well. But its light weight makes it fairly gentle on tires, and it's grip is awsome. Test one in arcade mode with a set of T8 tires. You will be pleasantly suprised.

As for the Escudo, without Pike's Peak in the Rally courses, it is kind of overkill. It also handles poorly on road courses.
As for the Lister, I haven't won one yet in THREE different games. I have driven it in GT2, and wasn't taken with it. The Renault ESpace mini van was pretty cool though.:D

My personal opinion re: the most over-rated car, would be the Toyota Supra modded to over 1000 HP and the Skyline modded to over 1000HP.
Neither of these cars handle or accelerate worth a tinker's damn modded to that level. In the Supra, once you are over 650-700 HP the car will sit and spin its drivewheels on take off, then when you try to put power down in the turns you get uncontrollable oversteer. With the Skyline the understeer gets WORSE. If you set the VCD to try to compensate, you spend a lot of time spinning backwards off the track, provided you can shift quickly enough to stay in the powerband with a Stage 4 turbo. But in a straight line with AWD you can effectively put more HP on the ground for good acceleration.
 
Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
no its not you they did give it a weak sound

I thought so . . . especially comparing to some other cars. I mean geez, it's a freakin 427 . . . the thing is going to be an absolute beast, but PD didn't make it sound like that.
 
I thought the real-life C5-R had a small block, rather than the big block of the Corvette C5?
 
Originally posted by Gil
For the C5R, to decrease front tire wear decrease front downforce. You can also run harder tires on the front than on the rear . . .

The RGT feels faster . . .

The Esperante is an interesting car. If you try to drive it right out of the box you won't be impressed with it at all. Especially if you bought it rather than won it. Once it is properly set up with the tranny also properly set up, it is quite tame, and very fast.

The Vertigo is simply the fastest thing in the game under 500HP . . .

As for the Escudo, without Pike's Peak in the Rally courses . . .

My personal opinion re: the most over-rated car, would be the Toyota Supra modded to over 1000 HP and the Skyline modded to over 1000HP . . .

Well I am already running T2s, so I don't think I can get any harder of a tire on the C5R . . . lol. I would agree with the RGT comment. I wish I would take the time to set up an Esperante and see what it is capable of. The Vertigo is kinda finicky to setup. Definitely about Escudo. Both the Supra and Skyline are crazy stupid with that much power.
 
Originally posted by Famine
I thought the real-life C5-R had a small block, rather than the big block of the Corvette C5?

It does have a small block . . . it's a small block 427. And the factory Corvettes have a small block 350.
 
I glad to see that some other people are defending the C5R. If you want to help with tire wear, lowering the toe and camber settings should help get a few more laps, but at the cost of losing handling.
 
I use the limited slip to control tire wear, Just make nice even laps with it and ti does you fine, the problem is you can't walk out and over drive the car, you hafta be smart with it. Unlike most of the other race cars, I feel the C5R handles the most like it should in real life.

Also, that 427 small block does sound weak, with no emissions on a race car that thing should be a beast on the decibel chart.
 
Originally posted by Injected8706
I glad to see that some other people are defending the C5R. If you want to help with tire wear, lowering the toe and camber settings should help get a few more laps, but at the cost of losing handling.
I will defend the Corvette forever. I absolutely love Corvettes . . . especially the C5R.
Originally posted by Sominon
I use the limited slip to control tire wear, Just make nice even laps with it and ti does you fine, the problem is you can't walk out and over drive the car, you hafta be smart with it. Unlike most of the other race cars, I feel the C5R handles the most like it should in real life.
Also, that 427 small block does sound weak, with no emissions on a race car that thing should be a beast on the decibel chart.

Sominon, I agree with you, the 427 should be a beast. I remember hearing the car being started back up after a pit stop during the 24 Hours of Le Mans and it sounded like a beast on the TV . . . I can't imagine what it would be like in real life.
 
Yeah, if you take a few of the V8s out, you'll notice most of them sound exactly the same, which is a bit annoying...it would be good if in GT4 each engine had it's own UNIQUE engine sound...:)
 
Originally posted by DODGE the VIPER
Yeah, if you take a few of the V8s out, you'll notice most of them sound exactly the same, which is a bit annoying...it would be good if in GT4 each engine had it's own UNIQUE engine sound...:)

Yeah, it's pretty dumb . . . and something that needs to be drastically improved in GT4.
 
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Yeah, but I hate it how most of the cars also sound like aeroplanes and you can barely hear the engine anymore when they reach about 250km/h + :irked:.
 
Originally posted by Sominon
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yes? :confused:
 
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