Most Uncontrollable Car

[Lc-Rwd]

Saleen s7. Definitely one tough beast to tame. Haven't tried the yellowbird though.

 

[Giygas]

Oullim Spirra, especially fully tuned.

This.

 

[HuygensHeroes]

I've tried several of these cars that are repeatedly being listed and I just can't figure out why they're being mentioned. After driving the yellowbird nothing else even comes close. For instance, I just tried the cizetta v16t or whatever it's called and yeah it's a little tempermental and maybe not the best car in the game but quite manageable and actually pretty enjoyable. And the Murcielago and Gallardo?! Huh? Get some patience and a lighter foot, or something geez, those are great cars and great fun to!

 

[M-POWER_FTW]

The Yellowbird, fun to drive but seriously tricky.

Exactly how I feel about it. My vote goes to the Yellow Bird.

 

[Superfly503]

The hardest car to drive for me has been the Elise in the second Special Event on the Top Gear track. I think it took me about 50 tries to get 4th place in that event.

Tuned up with better tires and the Elise is fine, but the one they make you drive in that special event is brutal. I have a hard time believing a stock Elise would handle that poorly with used snow tires.

 

[dirtycar74]

Schwimmwagen.

You've GOT to be joking!

For me, it's got to be that darned Kart thingy. I steered clear of it until well after I completed the AMG academy stuff, and still the controls are way too touchy; breathing on the stick sends me out-of-control quicker than yanking the e-brake at 90mph!

 

[Jack002]

The Saleen was ok and the yellowbird was ok, the Jay Leno tank car, however is a beast to drive. You can't turn the thing.

 

[zippy_the_cat]

The Tesla. It's slow, and has the bad combo of corner-entry understeer and corner-exit//on-throttle snap oversteer.

 

[jm2010]

It's got to be the yellowbird, it just won't point straight. On the plus side you don't need a handbrake to do handbrake turns

 

[Tweetman_277]

Talking about stock cars, I'll put the cars in this order of difficulty :

1. Ruf CTR Yellowbird
2. Ruf BTR
3. Shelby 427 Cobra
4. Zonda R on sport soft tires
5. Lamborghini Murcièlago LP 640
6. McLaren F1

The lambo can be tricky because it has a lot of off throttle oversteer, while the F1 is not really difficult to drive, it's just insanely fast and you have to pay attention at the exit of the corners.

I think the mclaren f1 is up there because, for some people, paying that much attention Is difficult. I adore mine just so much. For me, the easiest car to place on apexes from cockpit view. All hail the central seat!
Im also tuning various kei cars, and it seems that pretty much All the 4wd ones have a ridiculous amount of lift off oversteer. Like so much it just isnt funny.
Yet, conversly, i keep driving my 787B and it just 'feels' understeery... i know it shouldnt be, but it just keeps feeling like it. Sooo strange

 

[niky]

The hardest car to drive for me has been the Elise in the second Special Event on the Top Gear track. I think it took me about 50 tries to get 4th place in that event.

Tuned up with better tires and the Elise is fine, but the one they make you drive in that special event is brutal. I have a hard time believing a stock Elise would handle that poorly with used snow tires.

Try driving any mid-engined sportscar on Comfort Hards (which are what the TG Elise is wearing) and it'll be an absolute handful. On the stock Sports Hards, the Elise is a peach.

The Tesla. It's slow, and has the bad combo of corner-entry understeer and corner-exit//on-throttle snap oversteer.

Understeer is all down to the driver. You have to actually pay attention to how fast you're going instead of going by the old "2nd gear corner/3rd gear corner/4th gear corner" shortcut. All you need with the Tesla is to learn your corner entry speeds (since you can't do it by ear/gear) and be gentle on the throttle out of slower corners. It's a very quick car, given the power... but understandably, it feels a touch clumsier than the Elise/Exige it's based on...

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Someone mentioned go-karts? I love go-karts! Arguably one of the most "realistic" implementations in the game. Scuddering sideways on the edge of grip, banging the sump over kerbs and compressions, wrestling to keep it straight coming out of a quick corner. The only thing missing from the experience is how the engine vibration makes your vision permanently blurry after a lap or two.

For those put off by the touchy steering, the new controller sensitivity (since 1.06 or 1.07) option should cure that.

 

[FLIGHT50]

I have to go with the Elise. In every GT title I have played, its always the same. That car handles like my 2 year old son trying to use my G27 to play the game. Not a good site.

 

[Valka]

A fully upgraded Zonda is slightly twitchy but can be tuned to corner well.

I also have a fully upgraded Caterham and Cobra and they have no grip, even with moderate driving aids and race-soft tires. This is with full upgrades, stock they're a bit more controllable.

I own all of the RUFs (I was determined to beat the German events without a touring car or a BMW), and they are tricky to drive but that Caterham is a real piece of work, it is definitely worse. The Cobra is more controllable, but it still slides in the corners way too easily.

The Zonda, Caterham and the Cobra get mentioned a few times in this thread.. Why? Compared to really tricky cars like those 80s RUFs these are a walk in the park and actually very usable in actual racing events.

 

[FishHunters]

Ford GT is throttle touchy! Right now I have to run at TCS 8. One day when I finish and am just racing for the fun of it; I'll learn to drive it without TCS.

My understanding of the F1's is that in the "real world" they actually race with some form of TCS. I get that from the interviews with the guy who designed the Red Bull X1.

 

[Osr20_L]

Shelby COBRA on sport tyres or less
RUF Yellowbird .........................Insane cars

 

[lbsf1]

I have to go with the Shelby Cobra, it is impossible to go fast it just slides around everywhere.

 

[Stotty]

I thought the Cobra was lovely... needed a custom transmission to make the gearing a bit longer, but after that it was just lovely to drift.

The Yellowbird is a bitch (at least on sports hard)... the handling characteristics are basically right, just massively over-exagerated... very hard to balance the car once it starts oversteering.

 

[snidely]

Almost all sporty cars handle horribly on comfort tires (i.e. Lotus on Top Gear Special event)

However, once you stick racing soft tires on them you expect them to behave a bit more. From my experience the cars that still don't drive worth a darn even with race tires are:

Yellowbird
Ford GT40
Shelby Cobra
Cizeta
Saleen
Stratos

I laughed my a$$ off watching my level 34 bob try to wheel the Cizeta around the windy swiss mountain course (whatever it's called). He'd spin out 3-4 times per lap and finished 12th racing against hatchbacks like Mini's and Peaguot 207's. lol

 

[Stotty]

However, once you stick racing soft tires on them you expect them to behave a bit more.

No surprise that cars grip well on soft slicks now is it.

Driving road cars on anythng more than sports hard is lame.

 

[Krizzay]

I find my Yellowbird to be the biggest handful to drive. Love it tho.

 

[sesselpupser]

No surprise that cars grip well on soft slicks now is it.

Driving road cars on anythng more than sports hard is lame.

I pretty much disagree, if sports hard is something like a Pirelli P Zero then sports soft is something like a Toyo R888, right? What's wrong with that? I agree that anything more than sports soft is just silly but any grade of sports tyres is fair enough as far as I'm concerned. The Enzo, for example; I refuse to believe it handles like that on the Ferrari-supplied tyres in real life.

Coincidentally, the Enzo (on it's stock sports hard tyres) gets my vote. The Yellowbird is as tough as everyone says, but as it's been repeated over and over I thought I'd go for something else fairly tricky.

 

[Stotty]

Pirelli P Zero would be comfort soft IMO.

Sports hard would be MPS cups... and only a few road cars come on cups as standard. Sports soft are way too soft and grippy for road cars.

So sticking road cars on race tyres is just ruining the challenge and the experience.

 

[bimmer3002]

after going back and actually trying to gold the license tests, i thought the old premium supra 3.0 was the absolute worst car to manage. and normally i'd agree with you on "understeer is the fault of the driver", but with this festering anal wort of a car i couldn't do anything to tame it. complete rubbish. and yes, all aides were off. didn't matter. nothing worked

 

[abaxas]

Lotus elan + all mods but standard tyres.

Totally overwhelms the rear tyres but drives like a god when you have traction.

Not so much 'uncontrollable' but very very hard to get control of.

 

[g0ld]

A fully tuned Shelby GT350R is literally uncontrollable (especially with no aids).

 

[sesselpupser]

Pirelli P Zero would be comfort soft IMO.

Sports hard would be MPS cups... and only a few road cars come on cups as standard. Sports soft are way too soft and grippy for road cars.

So sticking road cars on race tyres is just ruining the challenge and the experience.

But what would sports softs be? Of course, road cars on street-illegal slicks is total overkill but I always saw it as the racing hards were hard compound slicks, so cut slicks like R888s would be sport softs (maybe mediums), i.e. street-legal track day tyres. Putting those on a street car, while in a lot of cases is extreme, people do do it in real life. To be fair, though, I haven't done much research into tyres or what other GTP'ers consider to be real-life equivalents, so I think I'm pretty much out of my depth discussing it, this is just what I've experienced personally. Also this is very off topic so I'll stop now anyway. Apologies for the thread hijack.

 

[luisgo98]

a fully tuned ruf yellow bird with burnt out comfort hard tires

 

[Stotty]

But what would sports softs be? Of course, road cars on street-illegal slicks is total overkill but I always saw it as the racing hards were hard compound slicks, so cut slicks like R888s would be sport softs (maybe mediums), i.e. street-legal track day tyres. Putting those on a street car, while in a lot of cases is extreme, people do do it in real life. To be fair, though, I haven't done much research into tyres or what other GTP'ers consider to be real-life equivalents, so I think I'm pretty much out of my depth discussing it, this is just what I've experienced personally. Also this is very off topic so I'll stop now anyway. Apologies for the thread hijack.

It's obviously a tricky one as there's nothing definitive in the game to say what's supposed to represent what!

The tricky question is where tyres like the MPS 2/3, Conti SC 2/3, P Zero etc sit... if you consider them comfort soft (which is where I always see them), then the MPS Cups would be one up and therefore a sports hard. This would make something like the soft compound R888's a sports medium. Sports soft would be a proper cut slick.

Of course if MPS 2/3's are a sports hard, then everything moves up one class.

 

[Ecchi-BANZAII!!]

Zonda R. I've yet to tame this beast with no aids.

It surprise me when no one said fully tune (no setup) BMW 1 Series Concept. Or maybe it just me.

Exiting the corner, throttle too early, you'll potentialy get understeer

If controlled drifting a whole lap on autumn means taming then I've tamed it so bad that it cries in a corner.
I don't like the car but then again I can drift almost all cars in the game with standard suspensions.

A lot of people say GT40, but I've only seen it online once...
The ford GT on the other hand is quite famous online.

 

[finnracer]

The Cobra is fine if you respect its power, weight and age even on comfort hards!! I raced my friends round the 'ring for a lap on Comfort Hards and its actually fairly predictable and i'm not an amazing driver and I won, of course Now the RUF Yellowbird: that is a crazed animal on heroin!