Motorsports Trivia Thread!

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Cap'n Jack, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. Liquid

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    Very good. I didn't have Barrichello as a certain outright winner:

    Always good to know that others also like doing boring research. :)
     
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    I was actually surprised there's only been nine tire manufacturers in F1 since 1950. I figured there had to be a few one-offs by some of the early privateers.

    Edit: A little more digging on the Avon-shod drivers...it turns out that there are several more with four brands.

    Marc Surer, Manfred Winkelhock, Keke Rosberg, Emilio de Villota, and Chico Serra also used four tire brands throughout their F1 careers: Goodyear, Pirelli, Michelin, and Avon. Jochen Mass used Firestone, Goodyear, Pirelli, and Avon. Jo Bonnier used 4: Firestone, Goodyear, Pirelli, and Dunlop. Phil Hill also with four; Englebert, Pirelli, Dunlop, and one race with Goodyear.

    That makes 9 drivers, with Rubens being the most-recent case of this.

    ...so did anyone use five brands? I'm still checking.
     
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    Would Jonathon Webb fit in this category? He owns Tekno and has driven for the team himself. Did he also own the Mother Falcon that he raced in 2011? Or was that supplied by FPR?

    Edit: Webb's Falcon was originally owned by 888, and he had technical assistance from DJR in 2010. In 2011 Webb cut ties with DJR and decided to run the car for himself.
     
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    No.

    Webb didn't have factory support & he didn't own the team (DJR) that ran the car for him. In the Tekno phase, he's never had factory support so that's another NO.
     
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    I must've misread the part that mentioned factory backing; I thought you were talking about owner/drivers as a whole.
     
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    Obviously he was already a very talented touring car driver but Laurent Aïello had just one season in the BTCC and won the championship. In fact, quite a few drivers won on their BTCC debuts at this time (Winkelhock, Tarquini, Biela) but they continued racing.

    What other instances are there of a driver only competing in a series once and winning the title?

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    just winning on your debut and continuing to race like, say, Nigel Mansell and CART (Mansell's 1994 season wasn't as successful) but winning and then disappearing from the series like Aïello.

    Jim Clark also won the BTCC in 1964 but I don't think that was the only season he competed.
     
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    Do you count someone like Nico Hulkenberg who won Le Mans on his only attempt?

    Nico Rosberg won his only season in GP2. it's probably quite common in junior series'. I think Lando Norris has one or two
     
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    I suppose we each count it in a different way but for a prestigious race like that, sure. Good find.
     
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    So did Hamilton. ;)
     
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    GP2 champions weren't permitted to race in the series again so anyone who won the title on first attempt could be counted. I just can't be arsed to go through the list :p
     
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    Interesting post popped up on Instagram.

     
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    Who is the only chief engineer to win the Triple Crown?

    (Indy 500, Monaco Grand Prix and Le Mans 24 Hours)
     
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    Tony Southgate somehow managed that accomplishment between Eagle, BRM and Jaguar.
     
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    Correctamundo!
     
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    Many famous designers including Southgate were members of the 750 Motor Club. But strangely neither Charles Cooper, John Cooper nor Owen Maddock appear to have been members. Why is that?

    As a teen, I hung out at the race shop that prepped local hero Jerry Grant's Lotus 19-Chevy. Grant went on to set the first 200mph lap at Indy, and the chief engineer of that Lotus 19 went on to design some famous and infamous F1, Can-Am, GTP, Indy and off-road racing cars. Geoff Brabham won several championships in his cars. Who is that designer?

    1964 Lotus 19-Chevy, Jerry Grant at Riverside. The spoiler, made from a Bardahl sign, was the biggest ever seen at the time.
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    Trevor Harris? He's the one designer I can think of that has worked in developing racing cars across that broad of a range of categories.
     
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    You are correct!
     
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    Since the 2014 Australian Grand Prix there have been 121 Grands Prix. Mercedes-Benz has won 89 of them. That is 74% (73.55).

    In that time the longest run without a Mercedes win has been 3 races (2018 AUS-BHR-CHN and 2019 BEL-ITA-SIN).
    On two other occasions there has been a run of 2 races without a win (2014 GER-HUN and 2017 MEX-BRA)
    On 16 occasions Mercedes went a maximum of 1 race without a win.
    On 81 occasions Mercedes' 89 wins were part of a consecutive sequence; 91% of the time, If Mercedes won the last race, they would win the next one.
    The longest such sequence twice being 10 consecutive wins
    (2016 MON-CAN-EUR-AUT-GBR-HUN-GER-BEL-ITA-SIN and 2015 JPN-RUS-USA-MEX-BRA-ABU 2016 AUS-BHR-CHN-RUS)

    For comparison over a similar 5 year period lamented for single-team dominance:

    Between the 2000 Australian Grand Prix and the 2004 Brasilian Grand Prix there were 85 Grands Prix. Ferrari won 57 of them. That is 67% (67.05).

    In that time the longest run without a Ferrari win was 3 races (2003 AUS-MAL-BRA)
    Excluding the comparatively not-dominant 2003 season, the longest run without a Ferrari win was 2 races (3 times in 2000, 3 times in 2001)
    On 47 occasions Ferrari's 57 wins were part of a consecutive sequence; 82% of the time, if Ferrari won the last race, they would win the next one.
    The longest such sequence being 10 wins
    (2002 CAN-EUR-GBR-FRA-GER-HUN-BEL-ITA-USA-JPN)

    Mercedes' last 5 years have been more dominant than the Schumacher era many decried as unfortunately boring. Ferrari's dominance is stymied by 2003 being a genuinely open season with Williams and McLaren, 2000 not being as dominant given it was the first year of success and 2001 not being as comprehensively dominant as 2002 and 2004.

    It's only now that time has passed us by and something more dominant has arrived can we look at the Ferrari era and be amazed that... it wasn't always quite so bad. Only 2 of the 5 seasons (2002 and 2004), fewer than half, were actually dominant. 2004 is a particularly outstanding season (Schumacher had 12 wins in 13 punctured by a DNF) that boosts the dominant stats to cover for the other years.
     
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    Schumacher era Ferrari is the single biggest stain on F1. At least Mercedes lets their drivers race....
     
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    Also a very valid point. I doubt Bottas has the freedom Rosberg had though.