Motorsports Trivia Thread!

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^I think he meant because the US had several races under different names, sometimes at the same time. Whereas other GPs and countries had everything under one name.
So you can't really count the "United States Grand Prix" as having the greatest number of tracks because many of the tracks which you would list as for the USA were not run under that name but several different names. Just the same as not counting Valencia Street Circuit (European GP) as a different track for the Spanish GP.

It isn't semantics, its just not a very well worded or explained question.
 
Yeah, I think it's because not every US race was called "United States Grand Prix", they had Caesar's Palace, Dallas, US West, etc.
 
If it goes by United States GP, it's just Indianapolis, Watkins Glen, Phoenix, Detroit, and Long Beach if that was ever on the schedule by itself.
 
The question didnt specify that they were Formula 1 World Championship Grand Prix. Le Mans was originally called a GP as are a few indycar races I think
 
lmanion
The question didnt specify that they were Formula 1 World Championship Grand Prix. Le Mans was originally called a GP as are a few indycar races I think
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There was a French F1 GP held at Le Mans anyway (well, the Bugatti circuit), and the Indy 500 used to be part of the F1 calendar as an optional race in the 50s and 60s for no real reason I can fathom.
 
TopGearFTW
There was a French F1 GP held at Le Mans anyway (well, the Bugatti circuit), and the Indy 500 used to be part of the F1 calendar as an optional race in the 50s and 60s for no real reason I can fathom.
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I think he was referring to pre world championship. The very first Grand Prix was held at Le Mans in 1906.

Edit: Although one lap was 64.11 miles back then, so still very different to the Circuit de la Sarthe.
 
F1 fan
I think he was referring to pre world championship. The very first Grand Prix was held at Le Mans in 1906.

Edit: Although one lap was 64.11 miles back then, so still very different to the Circuit de la Sarthe.
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All I meant was that even with the confusion over whether the question meant Formula one Grands Prix, or just Grands Prix in general, Le Mans would've been a valid answer regardless.
 
Ok, here's the list of locations for the French Grand Prix since its inception. And Pau is in it as I suspected, but in pre-F1 times (and Pre WWII)

1. F1 era

Magny-Cours
Paul Ricard
Dijon
Charade
Rouen-Les-Essarts
Le Mans (Bugatti)
Reims (both pre and post F1)


2. Post WWII but pre F1

Lyon


3. Pre WWII
Monthléry
Pau
Le Mans
Saint-Gaudens
Miramas
Tours
Strasbourg

4. Pre WW I

Amiens
Dieppe



NB - Duplicates not mentioned (I mean duplicate locations, the actual circuits were based on public roads and could always be different from one year to the other)
 
Hate to be picky, but shouldn't Le Mans go under pre WW1? It is where Grand Prix racing began.
 
F1 fan
Hate to be picky, but shouldn't Le Mans go under pre WW1? It is where Grand Prix racing began.
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Well there were Grand Epreuves (sp?) at the original Le Mans, but there was also Formula One at the Le Mans Bugatti circuit. One is a genuine road course, the other is a token circuit in the same area. Two seperate entires or not?
 
MazdaPrice
Well there were Grand Epreuves (sp?) at the original Le Mans, but there was also Formula One at the Le Mans Bugatti circuit. One is a genuine road course, the other is a token circuit in the same area. Two seperate entires or not?
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I would say two seperate entries. I was being extra picky about the fact that Le Mans was listed as a Pre world war 2 track, however, it was not listed as a pre world war 1 track. Although it has significantly changed over the years, it was the venue of the first French Grand Prix, and indeed, the first Grand Prix itself in 1906.
 
Should have just asked the question and accepted the argument anyway...

The list I used actually only included Formula 1 Grand Prix and so was not properly worded by myself on that front. The answer is still however France though... Can we move on?
 
You are right F1 Fan, but I sorted the list from "most recent" and so I didn't register duplicates (only mention I did was about Reims, run immediately post WWII and up to the early fifties, therefore both in pre F1 and post F1 era)

Le Mans (Bugatti) I consider a different circuit from Le Mans so I also mentioned it separately. Then I met "Le Mans" in the 1930's and put it there. When I met Le Mans again down the list I didn't write it again.

If I had started the list from "oldest" to "newest", without registering duplicates, it would look like this:

1. Pre WW I

Le Mans
Dieppe
Amiens
Lyon


2. Pre WW II

Strasbourg
Tours
Monthléry
Miramas
Saint-Gaudens
Pau
Reims


3. Post WWII

Rouen-Les-Essarts
Charade
Le Mans -Bugatti
Paul Ricard
Dijon
Magny-Cours


PS - The total number remains ... 17.
 
If the US is holding two GP's next year, then one will be called the US GP, and what will the other one be called? Don't they still babe rules hat one country could host one GP at a time?
 
nitrorocks
If the US is holding two GP's next year, then one will be called the US GP, and what will the other one be called? Don't they still babe rules hat one country could host one GP at a time?
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Austin might rotate with it, ala Hockenheimring and Nuerburgring.

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I've got a new question, if anyone is interested.
 
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MazdaPrice
Austin might rotate with it, ala Hockenheimring and Nuerburgring.

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I've got a new question, if anyone is interested.
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Well the (I imagine provisional) calendar seems to suggest two US races for next year: Austin, and a New Jersey street race.

I'm OK with you posting another question, it is what this thread is for afterall :P

EDIT: I just checked, one is called the United States Grand Prix (Austin), and the New Jersey one is called Grand Prix of America.
 
Okay, here we go! Another name that combination question.

Final race entry for the legendary Cosworth DFV.

Driver/Event/Year/Car
 
Martin Brundle was the last person to race in F1 with a DFV, in a Tyrrell at the Austrian Grand Prix in 1985.
 
It's always an honor to score the maiden victory for a marque. Sebastian Vettel is doubly honored for having done so for Red Bull and Toro Rosso. But can you name the drivers who scored three maiden victories for marques in Formula 1? Drivers, marques, years and races, please.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
 
Dotini
It's always an honor to score the maiden victory for a marque. Sebastian Vettel is doubly honored for having done so for Red Bull and Toro Rosso. But can you name the drivers who scored three maiden victories for marques in Formula 1? Drivers, marques, years and races, please.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
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Stirling Moss

1957 British Grand Prix - Vanwall
1958 Argentine Grand Prix - Cooper (Note: Rob Walker private entry)
1960 Monegasque Grand Prix - Lotus (Note: Rob Walker private entry)

Private they may have been, but those were Cooper and Lotus' first world championship victories.
 
MazdaPrice
Stirling Moss

1957 British Grand Prix - Vanwall
1958 Argentine Grand Prix - Cooper (Note: Rob Walker private entry)
1960 Monegasque Grand Prix - Lotus (Note: Rob Walker private entry)

Private they may have been, but those were Cooper and Lotus' first world championship victories.
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As well as this, I think Fangio did it for Maserati, Mercedes and Lancia.

The Lancia effort is debateable because it was Lancia/Ferrari but still...

Some quick research shows that Juan Manuel Fangio scored first wins at

1953 Italian Grand Prix - Maserati
1954 French Grand Prix - Mercedes-Benz
1956 Argentine Grand Prix - Lancia

The last one is arguable, but it was a Lancia car entered by Ferrari, I believe.
 
MazdaPrice
Stirling Moss

1957 British Grand Prix - Vanwall
1958 Argentine Grand Prix - Cooper (Note: Rob Walker private entry)
1960 Monegasque Grand Prix - Lotus (Note: Rob Walker private entry)

Private they may have been, but those were Cooper and Lotus' first world championship victories.
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Price, you are fast on the draw, but your gun discharged only a single shot. Now everyone knows one of the drivers!! :yuck:

Note: Moss shared the svelte Vanwall with the rapid dentist, Tony Brooks.


Edit: You have tried to sneak in Fangio:
Maserati (1953) I
Mercedes (1954) F
Lancia-Ferrari (1956) RA - with Luigi Musso

But Lancia-Ferrari doesn't really qualify as a bona fide marque, does it?


Respectfully,
Steve
 
I don't know. The car was a Lancia, the team was Ferrari.

It was worth a shot.
 
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That makes two drivers with debut wins for 3 marques.

How many are there in total, Dotini? It's a great question.
 

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