Multiscreen Question

[Seismica]

Reading the 'GT5 and my wallet' Thread got me thinking.

To play on a 3 screen/multiscreen setup, you need seperate PS3s and seperate copies of the game to link to each TV, i know that much.

But if PD release say, a new track as DLC, and it cost around £2. To play on a multiscreen setup would i need to purchase that DLC for each copy of the game, totalling to £6? Or could i buy one copy of DLC for the whole 3 screens?

Maybe someone who uses Forza Multiscreen could help clear this up.

 

[Neal]

You should be able to sign into each PS3 with the same PSN id and download the DLC without paying again.

 

[Kilborn230]

^ is right, I believe you are able to redownlaod purchased items up to 5 times.

 

[Seismica]

You should be able to sign into each PS3 with the same PSN id and download the DLC without paying again.

Thats good to hear. As i don't own my own PS3, and the only DLC i've ever gotten has been free, i didn't know it was linked to the PSN name. So its kind of like Steam, you pay for it, it links the product to your account and you can download it again 👍

This thread may aswell be locked now

 

[Mr Latte]

The problem is not in downloading the content multuiple times but not being able to have the same account on multiple consoles running at once.

On X360 you need seperate X360 accounts for each console as you cant log into the same acount on muliple systems at once.
Additionally on LIVE DLC is linked to that console user account so you cant copy/transfer DLC from a primary console also and save it onto a left/right screen console as well.
The content wont work under a different user name/account than the one it was originally downloaded for.

PSN/GT5 may be different but chances are it will be exploited to ensure they make more profits and safeguard that content cant be freely shared/copied.

If DLC on PSN could be copied and transferred onto other systems then the internet would be full of copied/uploaded DLC wouldnt it?
Again I assume it is linked to the user account it was purchased under and like X360 you cant log into an account several times at once on multiple systems.

btw their was NO NEED to create a seperate thread for this you could of asked in the other thread...

 

[Neal]

I've got multiple users on my PS3 and they can all access games and content I've downloaded with my main PSN id. I dont know if the DLC will be locked to a particular PSN id though.
You can see everything you've ever downloaded in account management/transaction history, very useful when i replaced my noisy PS3 fat with a quiet PS3 slim!
Btw, I got my first PS3 for free from buymobilephones.net with a new phone contract. I've used them many times without problems as long as you read the small print. Useful if you're planning multiple screens

 

[evo_zuqbu]

i don't get it. you're ok with buying 3 ps3, 3 hdtv/monitors, 3 copies of gt5 and a wheel. and then you're telling me you don't want to pay, say… the extra 4 bucks for the same dlc? you're kidding, right?

 

[Smoothherb]

Lol, read between the lines
"A friend of mine download every dlc can i use it for free?"
The answer: Yes but it is illegal
But it works very good.

 

[Seismica]

btw their was NO NEED to create a seperate thread for this you could of asked in the other thread...

I didn't want to stray too far off topic.

Lol, read between the lines
"A friend of mine download every dlc can i use it for free?"
The answer: Yes but it is illegal
But it works very good.

If only i had friends who are interested in GT.

i don't get it. you're ok with buying 3 ps3, 3 hdtv/monitors, 3 copies of gt5 and a wheel. and then you're telling me you don't want to pay, say… the extra 4 bucks for the same dlc? you're kidding, right?

You raise a good point. I just thought it was an interesting question.

And it has been answered. Twice.

 

[Mr Latte]

i don't get it. you're ok with buying 3 ps3, 3 hdtv/monitors, 3 copies of gt5 and a wheel. and then you're telling me you don't want to pay, say… the extra 4 bucks for the same dlc? you're kidding, right?

Firstly Ive not complained about it based on costs alone, as its possibly technically not avoidable yet others here are speculating. Yes you could say if people can afford the hardware they can afford the multi purchases of DLC required.

Ask any multiscreen owner that plays FM3.
Just cause they invested in the hardware required to obtain/experience the feature do you think then they enjoy having to purchase, download, update each console seperately.

Its not just the cost but time consuming as well, as its 3x times the work and a bit of a pain in the backside. Would be better if the primary console could within the game update the additional consoles via the network and transfer the DLC.

 

[Mr Latte]

Lol, read between the lines
"A friend of mine download every dlc can i use it for free?"
The answer: Yes but it is illegal
But it works very good.

Oh come on why not just steal some MS points from a shop or even someones credit card details and download it for nothing!

Im sure thats also illegal but might work as well...
Do you see a difference?

Once a thief always a thief, lol....

 

[Racer XO]

You're only using 1 ps3 to log on to the PSN, the only thing you're doing is designating left, right, and center screen options on each PS3. You will not be required to use 3 accounts not download 1 game pack for each system.

 

[irnbrutwinturbo]

Oh come on why not just steal some MS points from a shop or even someones credit card details and download it for nothing!

Im sure thats also illegal but might work as well...
Do you see a difference?

Once a thief always a thief, lol....

Ah come on, your from the big N, your an expert at that kinda thing.

 

[Seismica]

You're only using 1 ps3 to log on to the PSN, the only thing you're doing is designating left, right, and center screen options on each PS3. You will not be required to use 3 accounts not download 1 game pack for each system.

But the PS3s run each screen independantly. If they release a track like Silverstone as DLC, how does PS3 number 2 and 3 know what to display if the data is not on either console?

If the DLC costs to download i can see that causing problems for some users.

 

[TokyoDrift]

btw their was NO NEED to create a seperate thread for this you could of asked in the other thread...

There was no need for you to perpetuate it then by replying...

As for the issue around having to buy it three times or not, I dare say that if you have three PS3s, three TVs, three copies of the game, probably a racing seat, a steering wheel etc. etc., I hardly think the money or time aspect of getting DLC working is relevant in overall context.

 

[Mr Latte]

You're only using 1 ps3 to log on to the PSN, the only thing you're doing is designating left, right, and center screen options on each PS3. You will not be required to use 3 accounts not download 1 game pack for each system.

Why do you need 3 accounts on X360 then?
What makes PSN or PS3 much different?

Can I ask you then how if your playing a game online how this works.

I understand how it was established on GT4 etc but previous consoles were different.
For instance the realtime gamedata of the tracks/cars appears on the primary screen so how also does this appear in realtime on the Left/Right secondary displays particulary if:

A) These consoles are not using a seperate account or logged in
B) How does a user actually then even boot the game?
C) How do these consoles connect online, sync with online data and work in tandem with the primary console.

It would be excellent if Sony indeed can get a way for the game to use the primary account and on the secondary consoles and have some form of game mode/option that enables the other consoles
to boot the game and sync. I suppose all will be revealed later

 

[Racer XO]

But the PS3s run each screen independantly. If they release a track like Silverstone as DLC, how does PS3 number 2 and 3 know what to display if the data is not on either console?

If the DLC costs to download i can see that causing problems for some users.

That's true, but what I would go as far and guess that there will be a way to system link them.

 

[Racer XO]

Why do you need 3 accounts on X360 then?
What makes PSN or PS3 much different?

Can I ask you then how if your playing a game online how this works.

I understand how it was established on GT4 etc but previous consoles were different.
For instance the realtime gamedata of the tracks/cars appears on the primary screen so how also does this appear in realtime on the Left/Right secondary displays particulary if:

A) These consoles are not using a seperate account or logged in
B) How does a user actually then even boot the game?
C) How do these consoles connect online, sync with online data and work in tandem with the primary console


It would be excellent if Sony indeed can get a way for the game to use the primary account and on the secondary consoles and have some form of game mode/option that enables the other consoles
to boot the game and sync. I suppose all will be revealed later

I have the same questions, and my response is in the above post. There may be an option to link all the systems together since they will be on the same subnet to share game information. Of course no one knows right now since we have no details on how PD plans to work this out.

 

[PaMu1337]

I just thought of something.
Maybe you won't even need 3 game discs, since the ps3 can install games.
Maybe it can install enough data onto the two outer PS3s that it doesn't need a seperate disc. (Just speculation here off course.)

 

[ralph89]

What if they release a multi HDMI cable for a single ps3, so you can play multi screen in one ps3. Will that work?

 

[Mr Latte]

There was no need for you to perpetuate it then by replying...

As for the issue around having to buy it three times or not, I dare say that if you have three PS3s, three TVs, three copies of the game, probably a racing seat, a steering wheel etc. etc., I hardly think the money or time aspect of getting DLC working is relevant in overall context.

Arnt you easily annoyed, was no need for you to whinge about it neither, no offense occured but it was strange for the OP to basically ask a question and then shortly say the thread could be closed now. Seemed a bit odd.....
As for your point its not just costs as was already answered on post #10

I have the same questions, and my response is in the above post. There may be an option to link all the systems together since they will be on the same subnet to share game information. Of course no one knows right now since we have no details on how PD plans to work this out.

It will still require 3x Game discs and I do not see how the other two secondary consoles can link with the game unless those games are loaded on the other consoles. How then do you load the game without entering an account and booting it from the PS3 front end. If anything it all looks like the feature will work similar to how X360 manages it with FM3 and id be shocked although delighted if content can in some way work if only purchased once.

What if they release a multi HDMI cable for a single ps3, so you can play multi screen in one ps3. Will that work?

I think you need to be realistic.
Even if possible how does a single PS3 have the power to run the game 3x

 

[turbomp301]

I just thought of something.
Maybe you won't even need 3 game discs, since the ps3 can install games.
Maybe it can install enough data onto the two outer PS3s that it doesn't need a seperate disc. (Just speculation here off course.)

Thanks for the great idea, you just delayed the game another month.

 

[ralph89]

Is it really that hard to make a multi screen? In PC you can just buy an adapter and you can have a multi screen. is it really that hard to re-create the same graphics that you have in one screen except the other screen is looking left and right? I could look left and right in GT5p and GT5 TT demo with 180" of visibility without a problem. Can't they just make an option that you can have 180" of visibility lock at the same time as an option for a multi screen?

 

[Racer XO]

Is it really that hard to make a multi screen? In PC you can just buy an adapter and you can have a multi screen. is it really that hard to re-create the same graphics that you have in one screen except the other screen is looking left and right? I could look left and right in GT5p and GT5 TT demo with 180" of visibility without a problem. Can't they just make an option that you can have 180" of visibility lock at the same time as an option for a multi screen?

Quick answer ....no!

Because current consoles do not have the processing power to perform the calculations and render graphics real time like a gaming pc can plus for any console to have triple screen ability would need 3 video outputs and video cards along with enough ram to run properly plus dealing with heat issues in a console because of all the hardware. The costs of such a console would be ridiculous, which is why 3 consoles are needed... one console does the majority the calculations if not all while the other 2 render the graphics.

 

[Devedander]

Is it really that hard to make a multi screen? In PC you can just buy an adapter and you can have a multi screen. is it really that hard to re-create the same graphics that you have in one screen except the other screen is looking left and right? I could look left and right in GT5p and GT5 TT demo with 180" of visibility without a problem. Can't they just make an option that you can have 180" of visibility lock at the same time as an option for a multi screen?

The resolution is the problem... every pixel on your screen has to be drawn individually... with 3 screens you have to draw 3 times as many pixels thus the power to draw them all at once is 3 times as much.

While you can look at any one direction (left forward or right) you can only look in one direction at a time and at no time are there more than 1 screens worth of pixels being drawn.

Think of it like this:

You can sing a low note, you can sing a medium note and you can sing a high note... but you can't sing all three at once without 3 sets of vocal chords

 

[Leadfoot53]

That's true, but what I would go as far and guess that there will be a way to system link them.

I remember in PS3 FW update 3.15 they had a feature to transfer data between different ps3s via ethernet cable...

 

[Racer XO]

I remember in PS3 FW update 3.15 they had a feature to transfer data between different ps3s via ethernet cable...

That's what I'm referring to when I mentioned in an earlier post that data could be exchanged because all PS3's are on the same subnet.