My thoughts on Simulator games

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This is a driving simulator game so I believe you should drive from the cockpit view only. A simulator is suppose to simulate the real world, therefore when driving the car you should have the in car view or you are not playing it as it should be played. (SIMULATOR).
 
fordlaser777
You are not wrong, when I am using a wheel it is very annoying so I change to full view.
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Do you drive a real car? Does it bother you in a real car? My point is why drive a simulator if you are not going to use it as such. I believe your saying it is easier to do it your way.
 
Jimmy Haight
I have been using bumper view since GT1, i think the hands on the wheel are annoying in cockpit view and the dash takes at least 50 percent of the screen which also sucks to me
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So you drive a simulator but not using it as such. You playing it as a game. I play it as a game but treat it as a simulator.
 
lBt_33
People play like THEY want, the goal is to have fun because it is a game, remember it. There are no rules on how play, how drive, how enjoy the game. Some will play for the fun in the "arcade side" of the game while other play for the performance, time or the pure simulation.
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So to each his own is what you are saying. But the box says "The real driving simulator" and that is my point. I play the game as I would drive a real car. I just wonder why people don't play the game as a simulator.
 
Kevin3942
Do you drive a real car? Does it bother you in a real car? My point is why drive a simulator if you are not going to use it as such. I believe your saying it is easier to do it your way.
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When i drive a real car a see MY hands not my hands plus somebody elses
 
Kevin3942
So to each his own is what you are saying. But the box says "The real driving simulator" and that is my point. I play the game as I would drive a real car. I just wonder why people don't play the game as a simulator.
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Juste because people play as they want, that's obvious no ?
 
Kevin3942
So to each his own is what you are saying. But the box says "The real driving simulator" and that is my point. I play the game as I would drive a real car. I just wonder why people don't play the game as a simulator.
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I suppose when i take a right hand turn i could get a friend to push me to the left to simulate gforces too
 
Jimmy Haight
I suppose when i take a right hand turn i could get a friend to push me to the left to simulate gforces too
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The point is to simulate the game as close to real as the game will allow.(SIMULATOR) If you have a steering wheel and pedals you are trying to simulate real life but not in the game. This is the point I am making. If you arcade mode you playing the game and should use the controller not steering wheels and pedals.

lBt_33
Juste because people play as they want, that's obvious no ?
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Anyone can play how they want and I get that. I am just wondering why anyone would get a driving simulator game and not playing to as close to real as the game will allow. That is all I am saying. I am not arguing on how you play the game. I am trying to understand your logic on how you play " The real driving simulator " as the box states.
 
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Kevin3942
Do you drive a real car? Does it bother you in a real car? My point is why drive a simulator if you are not going to use it as such. I believe your saying it is easier to do it your way.
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Yes I do drive a real car, and no it does not bother me because my car is real and not a game with different option on the way you drive in a simulator game.
 
Yes fair enough,but i still hate having to look at only the top half of the screen, and as said before an extra pair of hands
 
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Kevin3942
The point is to simulate the game as close to real as the game will allow.(SIMULATOR) If you have a steering wheel and pedals you are trying to simulate real life but not in the game. This is the point I am making. If you arcade mode you playing the game and should use the controller not steering wheels and pedals.
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The point is for people to play a game however they see fit.

Anyone can play how they want and I get that. I am just wondering why anyone would get a driving simulator game and not playing to as close to real as the game will allow.
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These two sentences are opposing one another.

I am trying to understand your logic on how you play " The real driving simulator " as the box states.
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That's a marketing tagline. You're taking it literally.
 
noshog
If you believe Gran Turismo is the real driving simulator.....Well, I'm Santa Claus :)
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It certainly isn't a driving simulator playing it in arcade mode or the way you may play it.

SlipZtrEm
That's a marketing tagline. You're taking it literally.
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So you are saying that a flight simulator is a marketing tagline as well?
 
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A simulator should feel somewhat like driving a real car no matter which view I use (and I do use cockpit cam). However in GT6 it feels more like driving an F-Zero machine than a car.
 
Kevin3942
So you are saying that a flight simulator is a marketing tagline as well?
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No, that's what you seem to want me to say.

"The real driving simulator" is a tag line, nothing more. GT, like many other simulation-style games, aims to replicate reality (to various levels of success). In that way, it succeeds in being a simulator, but it is by no means the definitive one - a claim that comes from its creators no less.

Marketing is a powerful thing. One of Coke's recent tag lines was "Open Happiness". I shouldn't have to go into detail about the problems with that one.

Again: stop double posting.
 
Ettick
A simulator should feel somewhat like driving a real car no matter which view I use (and I do use cockpit cam). However in GT6 it feels more like driving an F-Zero machine than a car.
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But to get it a close as possible to real as the game will allow you to, you would have to use the cockpit view to simulate real driving. Keep in mind I am saying again, you can only simulate the real thing as much as the game will allow.

SlipZtrEm
No, that's what you seem to want me to say.

"The real driving simulator" is a tag line, nothing more. GT, like many other simulation-style games, aims to replicate reality (to various levels of success). In that way, it succeeds in being a simulator, but it is by no means the definitive one - a claim that comes from its creators no less.

Marketing is a powerful thing. One of Coke's recent tag lines was "Open Happiness". I shouldn't have to go into detail about the problems with that one.

Again: stop double posting.
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Is a flight simulator a marketing tagline? Is it or not. The answer is either yes or no. I just want the answer.
 
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It is a driving simulator game and you can play the way you want wether it is Bumper, Bonnet, Roof or Full View.
 
Kevin3942
It certainly isn't a driving simulator playing it in arcade mode ...
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How is it any less of a simulator in arcade mode? It's the exact same cars and physics as any other mode, just with "arcade" put in front of it.

I think you're taking some of the labels that Polyphony is putting on things a little too seriously. GT is a simulator not because of any label that says it is, but because of the way that it tries to emulate reality. For some it's fun because of that, and for others it's fun because of the ways it is NOT similar to reality (of which there are many).

Suggesting that the driving view used makes it more or less of a simulator is dribble. It may make it more or less immersive, but it's the same simulation regardless of which point of view you drive from. And as others have pointed out, some people find it to be less immersive to have two wheels in front of their face. I'm not one of them, I like cockpit view, but I certainly would never tell those people that they're playing the game wrong.

There's only one thing in GT that makes it less of a simulator, and that's Skid Recovery Force.
 
I like to use the cockpit view when I'm pootling around some random track in random car (just the same as my real car) as I like the POV, but never in a race. I can't see my side or rear view mirrors properly using that view in the same way I can with my car.

I don't race in my diesel C-Max though. I race on GT6... The Real Driving Simulator that I play on a TV with a 2D image, using buttons and a half inch long stick to control the car.

It's a game. Suspend your disbelief when/if you play it and don't take everything so literally.
 
Kevin3942
You are absolutely correct. The way you play it, it is NOT a driving simulator.
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Well you are right and wrong. The way I play it is... I don't. I discovered PC Sims and it made me realize how much of a sim GT isn't.
And well I play all my games/Sims in cockpit mode, but I don't care how others play, as long as they are having fun, it's all that matters.
 
Kevin3942
Do you drive a real car? Does it bother you in a real car? My point is why drive a simulator if you are not going to use it as such. I believe your saying it is easier to do it your way.
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Funnily enough, I have never had the desire nor need to look at the interior of a car while drifting sideways in third gear.

That might just be me, though.

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Car interiors in GT6 are plain graphics porn, but add nothing to the gameplay immersion. I would prefer a bonnet and gauges view without the extra hands and steering wheel, but that's not quite possible, sadly.
 

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