NASCAR - bump-drafting vs slingshot-drafting

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Dansemaskine
Hey GTP :)

Racing a lot of NASCAR online these days, and the methods of drafting seem very different from player to player. So, what do you guys do? And is one of the methods faster than the other?

Thanks in advance :)
 
I'll bump draft if there is 2 of us breaking away from the pack that way it really only a 2 player battle if done right. Otherwise sling-shot is fine...really just depends on the situation for me.
 
But what you would need to do to win depends on the circumstances, which changes which method is more useful.
 
Bump draft most of the race than slingshot to the front on the final lap. Works for me 👍
 
Toronado
But what you would need to do to win depends on the circumstances, which changes which method is more useful.
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Could you elaborate? :)
 
I generally use the bump-draft. I would like to know, using a 2 car example, which way is faster?
 
Villain
Bump draft most of the race than slingshot to the front on the final lap. Works for me 👍
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Guess noone really tries to bumpdraft their way to victory lane :p
 
Both. Situation dependant!

You will gain a lot of spots faster with a good slingshot, but bump drafting can help force a lead or gain you back to the lead draft
 
harmonium
Could you elaborate? :)
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Position relative to the leader, position relative of other drivers, time left in the race, car setup and track all play a factor in which method is better.
 
Toronado
Position relative to the leader, position relative of other drivers, time left in the race, car setup and track all play a factor in which method is better.
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I only race daytona. Could you give me a few examples? Cause I'm not really catching your train of thought :(
 
Did you play GT4? Because that would make explaining things a lot easier.
 
Bump drafting is fine,and the slingshot works,but consider this ............

AS LONG AS THE PERSON YOU ARE BUMP DRAFTING IS AWARE THAT IT IS A BUMP DRAFT AND NOT AN INTENTION TO WRECK HIM OUT !!!!!

To many times I've seen this happen and it pisses people off.So beware as to whom you are doing this to.Do not do this to a stranger,make sure it is a friend.
 
Nicksfix is absolutely right. I'll only participate in a lengthy NASCAR event as long as all parties involved have mics. Communication is key!
 
bump draft the 1st place car until the last lap and then slingshot in the final corner
 
Nicksfix
Bump drafting is fine,and the slingshot works,but consider this ............

AS LONG AS THE PERSON YOU ARE BUMP DRAFTING IS AWARE THAT IT IS A BUMP DRAFT AND NOT AN INTENTION TO WRECK HIM OUT !!!!!

To many times I've seen this happen and it pisses people off.So beware as to whom you are doing this to.Do not do this to a stranger,make sure it is a friend.
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Generally I've been bump drafting since I watched a part of the Daytona 500, but I've never wrecked anyone doing it, nor heard complaints. I only take part in 35+ laps races since I think anything less removes a lot of tactical elements from these races. Generally I think that people in these races have a certain amount of experience in online NASCAR, and therefore know what I'm doing.

But that's just a theory. No proof to back it up :)
 
Either or. Just depends on the situation. Slingshot to the win. A good multiple car train on the high side will easily take over a 2 car draft on the low side. The second car in a multiple car train is in the catbird seat when going for the win. You have to pull out at the right time and hope the 3rd car goes with you. Preferably, its a team mate behind you to push you to the win. Make sure you return the favor tho next time. I have won many races like this and also pushed my team mate to many wins. You also really need to know the guy your drafting with. (driving style, on track tendences) My team mate and I can run around Daytona like our cars are welded together which is very important as being smooth and hooked up will get you more speed. Hope this helps you out. Been racing Daytona since day one and still lovin' it.
 
I've been meaning to ask, did they change the effects of a bump draft like 4 - 5 updates ago? Seems you cant push as fasts as a half year ago. I've really only experienced it on la Sarthe. Now that I've picked back up a little on NASCAR I usually just follow very closely and bump just to nudge a car forward a bit for a win or what not. Seems down the straight two cars still get passed by one.
 
will-i-am
I've been meaning to ask, did they change the effects of a bump draft like 4 - 5 updates ago? Seems you cant push as fasts as a half year ago. I've really only experienced it on la Sarthe. Now that I've picked back up a little on NASCAR I usually just follow very closely and bump just to nudge a car forward a bit for a win or what not. Seems down the straight two cars still get passed by one.
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Two cars bump drafting will always be faster than one car. And yes, they did change the draft. You can have the effects set to strong or weak in your lobby settings.
 
Bottom line:

In GT5 if I am way behind the leader on the race track and I'm only close to 1 other car.

Will it be quicker to catch up by bump drafting?
Or will it be quicker to catch up by perpetually slingshotting each other?

I've been eager to know that answer for a long time, and I'm not sure anyone's ever actually done the test.
 
iamsupernasty
Bottom line:

In GT5 if I am way behind the leader on the race track and I'm only close to 1 other car.

Will it be quicker to catch up by bump drafting?
Or will it be quicker to catch up by perpetually slingshotting each other?

I've been eager to know that answer for a long time, and I'm not sure anyone's ever actually done the test.
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If you are way behind the leader, hook up with that one other car and either push him or have push you. If you are too far behind the leader tho, you will never catch them as they are probably hook up in a draft also. Not sure what you mean by your second situation. If you mean like playing leap frog with the same car over and over again, that will never work as it is faster to be pushed/pushing. If you are talking about slingslotting every car as you com upon them, again, won't work. You will always need a drafting partner. I have been racing Daytona since the game came out so I have plenty of experience. Indy is a little different story.
 
KB18FAN
If you are way behind the leader, hook up with that one other car and either push him or have him push you. If you mean like playing leap frog with the same car over and over again, that will never work as it is faster to be pushed/pushing.
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That was my question. I always though pushing was faster, so I'm glad im not the only one. I'd love to see firm numbers to prove that though.
 
iamsupernasty
That was my question. I always though pushing was faster, so I'm glad im not the only one. I'd love to see firm numbers to prove that though.
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I think it does seem counter intuitive, because of the way you seem to go even faster if you get the draft from a distance behind in a lengthy leap frog. But I'm thinking the idea is that if you do this, you're losing speed at times even though you're gaining speed at times, and it evens out. So pushing winds up being overall consistently faster. (At least that's my hypothesis to explain it.)

Thing is, I'm on the fence with believing that bump drafting is actually faster than leap frogging with slower cars. (By slower cars, I mean for example, we do ovals in the Low HP League using kei cars tuned to 400pp - which is not very fast on ovals. Certainly not like a NASCAR stock car.) And on a few occasions it definitely seemed like leap-frogging was getting me & the other car up faster gaining on the leader, than when we were bump drafting. This of course could have had something to do with the relative speeds of our cars, and which of us was able to bump draft the other.

By able, that's the other thing that comes into play with it not being say a 1-make race... if you have various models in an oval draft battle... I'm leery about bump drafting with certain other cars that look awfully skittery & unstable. I worry I could lose my draft partner to a spin from even a slight bump draft tap just a tiny bit off-kilter. So if the other car is more unstable than mine, I'll sooner encourage them to bump draft me, than to get behind them to tailgate.
Take for instance you're in a shuffle race, and your draft partner is in a Yellow Bird. :eek:
Or you're in the Low HP League and your draft partner is in a weight reduced Honda Beat & already showing signs of sporting damage. :nervous:

Bottom line of course... You can't bump draft someone else over the finish line and win yourself. :boggled: :lol: Clearly, draft passing is the way to go if you actually want to get ahead of another car before the finish. haha.
My usual strategy, if I can manage it, is to be in 3rd place behind 2 cars closely drafting each other, and then leap up using both cars just in the nick of time. :sly: It's worked on many many occasions. haha. :) But it has to be timed carefully... and that's a lot to do with luck.
 
Niop
I generally use the bump-draft. I would like to know, using a 2 car example, which way is faster?
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I bet you would :sly:

Positive Bump Drafting is faster though, positive of that. You lose a lot less momentum.
 
iamsupernasty
That was my question. I always though pushing was faster, so I'm glad im not the only one. I'd love to see firm numbers to prove that though.
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Don't need numbers as I got experience to prove it. I've been in every situation and have tried everything known to man as far as NASCAR racing goes on GT5. Not saying I'm an expert, but I know what works and what don't.
 
iamsupernasty
Will it be quicker to catch up by bump drafting?
Or will it be quicker to catch up by perpetually slingshotting each other?
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The second option. Bump drafting doesn't work as it should in GT5.
 
Knelly
Positive Bump Drafting is faster though, positive of that. You lose a lot less momentum.
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That was my guess about why it's faster! 👍
(Couldn't think of the word "momentum" at the time!! haha. Thanks.)

watermelonpunch
I think it does seem counter intuitive, because of the way you seem to go even faster if you get the draft from a distance behind in a lengthy leap frog. But I'm thinking the idea is that if you do this, you're losing speed at times even though you're gaining speed at times, and it evens out. So pushing winds up being overall consistently faster.
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MOMENTUM.
 
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