Nascar setup for Daytona?????

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I Have my seup set not bad but i still cant seem to get it that i break 220 in the backstreach and hold 215 in the turns. I have seen cars hold 215 in the turns alone. Just wondering if anyone wanted to share s great setup.
 
Never seen close to 215 on the turns and I run NASCAR all the time. Not sure what setup your referring to. MAYBE if you tune down the tranny so much that your max speed is around 220 before redline. I'm always the fastest on the course and I do 219 on the straights, 213 around the bend and 205 on the outs.

Dont think its close to possible to hold 215 on the turns. Like I said, I race online nascar all the time against hundreds of people and never once seen anything close to this.
 
the setup i have in my car right now i can run mid to low 42 but cant run 215 in the corners if im lucky i can hit 220 down the back stretch
 
I can run 41.5-7 constant with my setup the best i can get off the corner is 210 on my poll runs. If anyone is able to run 215 on the turns he knows something 99.9% of people don't know.
 
what's funny is that he asked what your setups are..but all you guys said was what speed you get...give him what he asked for...why is it a secret to give away a setup? jeese...i would help him out, but i dont know any set ups myself.
 
Positive ride height, 1.5 difference in front/rear springs, slightly less damper compression then extension, little bit of anti-roll, less then 1.5 camber, very slight rear toe.

Don't want to hand out my tune that I put a couple hours in, those are the basics that should sum it up.
 
I Have my seup set not bad but i still cant seem to get it that i break 220 in the backstreach and hold 215 in the turns. I have seen cars hold 215 in the turns alone. Just wondering if anyone wanted to share s great setup.

Here you go,if someone is holding 215 in the turns it's because they are drafting.Make sure you change your oil to get maximum Horsepower.
Try this and give me your thoughts.I really think sharing Nascar setups is a great idea.Makes the racing way more fun when your running the same setup for drafting.

Aero 20/40
Tranny 242 MPH
LSD 60/60/15
Suspension
Ride Height F 15 R 15
Spring F 18.5 R 18.5
Ext F 8 R 4
Com F 8 R 4
Roll F 4 R 4
Camber F 3.0 R3.0
Toe F .00 R .20
Brakes F 3 R 7
Soft tires
Give it a try and stay on the high line.
You can change the rear camber a little lower if you want.
 
If most people would scroll down or change pages you could find your answers.
I do set-ups for the Nascar tracks.If you want a Car for Daytona or Indy ask me and I will try and get your setup.Most of my tunes work well and are designed for a wheel.I don't want anything in return,Nascar is really fun when guys run the same set-up.
 
Since noone likes to share NASCAR Speedway setups, I'll give out mine that will fairly easily crack 41 seconds at Daytona without drafting and using a controller (sticks). I am a complete noob and just started tinkering, but apparently it is semi difficult to get a car sub-42 seconds at Daytona and I've had many people online wanting my car (for it's setup).

UPDATE: 1-13-2011

CURRENT BEST w/o DRAFTING + TIRE WEAR + FUEL CONSUMPTION: 41.680

TUNER'S NOTES: This is pretty much a specialized tune because it is only useful at Daytona Superspeedway. Racing at Daytona is about four things in this order... 1) drafting 2) handling wrecks/bumps 3) pit strategy 4) solo speed. This thread addresses #4, the shear by yourself lap speed. Solo speed is very important in longer races (i.e. online) where going .01 second faster than an opponent can either let you catch his/her draft, or defend and not allow someone to catch your draft. I'll type more notes at the end of this post.

CAR: 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Impala (@892hp/1565kg) Like I said, I'm a noob and I don't know if the different NASCARs have different characteristics.

GT Auto / Maintenance & Service: Oil change... very important

BODY/CHASSIS: Purchase Chassis Reinforcement... very important
-Aero: 20f/40f (lowest settings)

EXHAUST: Titanium Racing (duh)

TRANNY: Fully Customizable (duh)
-Top Speed: 236mph (for no draft running)
-Top Speed: 249mph (for draft running)

DRIVETRAIN: Adjustable LSD
- 60/60/15

SUSPENSION: Full Custom (duh)
-Ride Height: 15f/15r
-Spring Rate: 18.5f/18.5r
-Extension: 8f/6r
-Compression: 8f/6r
-Anti-Roll: 7f/6r

-camber: 4.5f/3.5r
-toe: -0.05f/0.30r

TIRES: Racing Soft (but I may be working on a Racing Hard tune for those pit strategists)

ADVANCED NOTES PREPARE FOR RUN ON SENTENCES AND PARAGRAPHS: It appears that some setting changes have absolutely zero effect on the NASCAR. Spring Rate is suprisingly one of them, but I'm still tinkering. One of my biggest breakthroughs was finding that the car will accelerate quicker, and therefore achieve a higher straight away speed if the camber is set extreme like I have it. Another observation is that changing the camber has zero effect on straightaway tracking (wandering) like it's supposed to in real cars... seems GT5 doesnt have it. If your car tracks, it is tire wear or mechanical damage. It only takes one spin out to ruin a new set of tires. Speaking of needing to pit, these settings actually prefer the added weight of fuel. I have not gotten that deep into testing yet but this may open some doors on pit strategy... i.e. never NOT get fuel.

41 SECOND TIPS: This setup can be touchy, but not as touchy as some of the tunes I've taken from GTP and ran. In fact I've had several tunes with slightly quicker section 1/2 times but turning to the trioval proved too hairy to keep speed. Anyway, these are target speeds for different sections... and remember it takes 3-4 laps to achieve top speed. Honestly If you nail these, you are sub 41.800

START/FINISH/TRIOVAL: 215mph
TURN 1/2: >205 mph... stay low but not too close to yellow stripe
BACKSTRETCH: 220 mph before turn 3/4... key is to ease out wide from turn 1/2
TURN 3/4: >205 mph... stay low again.

Link laps together like this and you will have pretty consistent 41.7XX-41.9XX laps before tire wear and fuel consumption catches you. With even sloppy driving, consistent 42.0XXs are pretty easy, which is why I recommend this tune and not any BETAs I'm working on. This setup is also relatively stable after you run about 20-30 laps to get used to the setup.

Keep in mind 41 second times with this setup are for SOLO DRIVING, cutting to the inside in corners and outside on the straights is a trainwreck waiting to happen with traffic. If you hold your line, either low side or high side, expect a +.200 to be added to your lap times, which are still not that bad for single line races.

ENDURANCE: I've been able to easily pull 41.XXX for at least 10 laps. 42.0XX for at least 15 laps. 15-20 laps I can manage 42.1XX laps. After 20 laps its a pretty steep dropoff, by lap 25 I hover with mid 42's (42.4XX to 42.7XX). Then there is a brick wall and seems that 26 & 27, you are on skates and sliding around near or over the 43 second mark. EXTREME caution must be taken around lap 25 and higher. I would highly advise pitting around lap 25, but keep in mind this is without drafting.
 
Since noone likes to share NASCAR Speedway setups, I'll give out mine that will fairly easily crack 41 seconds at Daytona without drafting and using a controller (sticks). I am a complete noob and just started tinkering, but apparently it is semi difficult to get a car sub-42 seconds at Daytona and I've had many people online wanting my car (for it's setup).

UPDATE: 1-13-2011

CURRENT BEST w/o DRAFTING + TIRE WEAR + FUEL CONSUMPTION: 41.680

TUNER'S NOTES: This is pretty much a specialized tune because it is only useful at Daytona Superspeedway. Racing at Daytona is about four things in this order... 1) drafting 2) handling wrecks/bumps 3) pit strategy 4) solo speed. This thread addresses #4, the shear by yourself lap speed. Solo speed is very important in longer races (i.e. online) where going .01 second faster than an opponent can either let you catch his/her draft, or defend and not allow someone to catch your draft. I'll type more notes at the end of this post.

CAR: 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Impala (@892hp/1565kg) Like I said, I'm a noob and I don't know if the different NASCARs have different characteristics.

GT Auto / Maintenance & Service: Oil change... very important

BODY/CHASSIS: Purchase Chassis Reinforcement... very important
-Aero: 20f/40f (lowest settings)

EXHAUST: Titanium Racing (duh)

TRANNY: Fully Customizable (duh)
-Top Speed: 236mph (for no draft running)
-Top Speed: 249mph (for draft running)

DRIVETRAIN: Adjustable LSD
- 60/60/15

SUSPENSION: Full Custom (duh)
-Ride Height: 15f/15r
-Spring Rate: 18.5f/18.5r
-Extension: 8f/6r
-Compression: 8f/6r
-Anti-Roll: 7f/6r

-camber: 4.5f/3.5r
-toe: -0.05f/0.30r

TIRES: Racing Soft (but I may be working on a Racing Hard tune for those pit strategists)

ADVANCED NOTES PREPARE FOR RUN ON SENTENCES AND PARAGRAPHS: It appears that some setting changes have absolutely zero effect on the NASCAR. Spring Rate is suprisingly one of them, but I'm still tinkering. One of my biggest breakthroughs was finding that the car will accelerate quicker, and therefore achieve a higher straight away speed if the camber is set extreme like I have it. Another observation is that changing the camber has zero effect on straightaway tracking (wandering) like it's supposed to in real cars... seems GT5 doesnt have it. If your car tracks, it is tire wear or mechanical damage. It only takes one spin out to ruin a new set of tires. Speaking of needing to pit, these settings actually prefer the added weight of fuel. I have not gotten that deep into testing yet but this may open some doors on pit strategy... i.e. never NOT get fuel.

41 SECOND TIPS: This setup can be touchy, but not as touchy as some of the tunes I've taken from GTP and ran. In fact I've had several tunes with slightly quicker section 1/2 times but turning to the trioval proved too hairy to keep speed. Anyway, these are target speeds for different sections... and remember it takes 3-4 laps to achieve top speed. Honestly If you nail these, you are sub 41.800

START/FINISH/TRIOVAL: 215mph
TURN 1/2: >205 mph... stay low but not too close to yellow stripe
BACKSTRETCH: 220 mph before turn 3/4... key is to ease out wide from turn 1/2
TURN 3/4: >205 mph... stay low again.

Link laps together like this and you will have pretty consistent 41.7XX-41.9XX laps before tire wear and fuel consumption catches you. With even sloppy driving, consistent 42.0XXs are pretty easy, which is why I recommend this tune and not any BETAs I'm working on. This setup is also relatively stable after you run about 20-30 laps to get used to the setup.

Keep in mind 41 second times with this setup are for SOLO DRIVING, cutting to the inside in corners and outside on the straights is a trainwreck waiting to happen with traffic. If you hold your line, either low side or high side, expect a +.200 to be added to your lap times, which are still not that bad for single line races.

ENDURANCE: I've been able to easily pull 41.XXX for at least 10 laps. 42.0XX for at least 15 laps. 15-20 laps I can manage 42.1XX laps. After 20 laps its a pretty steep dropoff, by lap 25 I hover with mid 42's (42.4XX to 42.7XX). Then there is a brick wall and seems that 26 & 27, you are on skates and sliding around near or over the 43 second mark. EXTREME caution must be taken around lap 25 and higher. I would highly advise pitting around lap 25, but keep in mind this is without drafting.

You are burning your tires off because your camber and toe are to high.The only thing you can purchase for Nascar is rigidity and soft tires.
 
wow all these tunes are crazy

i just slammd my car, maxxed out aero, notched top speed up by 4 or 5 blips. also turn off ASM or force it off with ABS set to 0. all it does is slow you down in corners
 
wow all these tunes are crazy

i just slammd my car, maxxed out aero, notched top speed up by 4 or 5 blips. also turn off ASM or force it off with ABS set to 0. all it does is slow you down in corners

Put your aero to the lowest settings,you do not need any driving aids and drive a high line.You can turn 41.898 laps with ease with this setup and do 25 to 30 laps no problem.
 
Another observation is that changing the camber has zero effect on straightaway tracking (wandering) like it's supposed to in real cars... seems GT5 doesnt have it. If your car tracks, it is tire wear or mechanical damage. It only takes one spin out to ruin a new set of tires. Speaking of needing to pit, these settings actually prefer the added weight of fuel. I have not gotten that deep into testing yet but this may open some doors on pit strategy... i.e. never NOT get fuel.

Are you using a wheel or DS3? Cause on my wheel I can definitely feel the effects of a high camber pulling me left and right. (and that's going to definitely effect tire wear over long races) Camber should really be set no higher than 1.5-2 for anyone.
 
guys, scenic silver straight up copy+pasted the first post of my thread here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=161287

I'm not pissed, but its causing a lot of confusion when people don't give credits/quotes

Haha, I didn't realize it. So I guess you're the one I should be telling about your camber being way off. But then I realized I've critiqued your tune and you just ignored it before, so there's no point starting now. 💡
 
Haha, I didn't realize it. So I guess you're the one I should be telling about your camber being way off. But then I realized I've critiqued your tune and you just ignored it before, so there's no point starting now. 💡

I take input and try suggestions from everyone. I just haven't been able to put up better times with lower cambers. I'm using a controller so no I dont feel the camber pulling on the straights. However, I did notice higher MPH on straights after ONLY increasing camber. Less friction? ... I don't know.

If I was to make a general stab at setup for Daytona... I would say that aero is most important and the rest is driving control. I've now run with hundreds of racers and have talked with scores about setup. It seems that everyone has their own opinion regarding aero, ride height, spring rate, camber, toe, etc. All I know is that out of all the different settings I've tried, what I've posted (which is a combination/change/sometimes completely original setting from other's), has allowed me to be in the lead pack at the end of a majority of the races I've been in.
 
ride height effects speed, spring rate so far what I have noticed isint much of anything, maybe effects tire wear. dampers have no effect, toe effects tire wear drastically, camber I have noticed nothing different, in fact higher camber made my tires worse over time, and overall slowed my car down solo times. Solo times as of 7/1/11 best of 41.528 with average of 41.550 to 41.590. One of my other friends ran a 41.455, so I'm working on getting mine into 41.4s. But overall ride height toe and gears are the most important of any NASCAR tune.
 
ride height effects speed, spring rate so far what I have noticed isint much of anything, maybe effects tire wear. dampers have no effect, toe effects tire wear drastically, camber I have noticed nothing different, in fact higher camber made my tires worse over time, and overall slowed my car down solo times. Solo times as of 7/1/11 best of 41.528 with average of 41.550 to 41.590. One of my other friends ran a 41.455, so I'm working on getting mine into 41.4s. But overall ride height toe and gears are the most important of any NASCAR tune.
I don't know what your setup is, but have you tried a lower rear than front? +15/+10 as example? It makes you ca. 1 tenth faster compared to +15/+15.
 
thats exactly what I run for ride height, over 80 hours worth of tuning time, there is no possible way to get this car faster, if you suggest it i've tried it lol.
 
Never seen close to 215 on the turns and I run NASCAR all the time. Not sure what setup your referring to. MAYBE if you tune down the tranny so much that your max speed is around 220 before redline. I'm always the fastest on the course and I do 219 on the straights, 213 around the bend and 205 on the outs.

Dont think its close to possible to hold 215 on the turns. Like I said, I race online nascar all the time against hundreds of people and never once seen anything close to this.

i been able to get 222 and 208 on the outs. thats max as my tune itself has not been beat ever in a practice event where draft does not work. holding 215 is not possible even with a wheel
 
ride height effects speed, spring rate so far what I have noticed isint much of anything, maybe effects tire wear. dampers have no effect, toe effects tire wear drastically, camber I have noticed nothing different, in fact higher camber made my tires worse over time, and overall slowed my car down solo times. Solo times as of 7/1/11 best of 41.528 with average of 41.550 to 41.590. One of my other friends ran a 41.455, so I'm working on getting mine into 41.4s. But overall ride height toe and gears are the most important of any NASCAR tune.

my tune managed a consistent solo time of 41 flat. no faster. not to be mean but cant share it as in return for helping my friend setup his trans, he gave me his suspension and lsd setup.
 
add me, theycallmeherbie or GTP_Herbie, not to be mean but I have over 80 hours worth of ti,e spent in my tune, I don't need the setup but would love to see you post a qualify time. I run 41.5's I hit 221 sometimes 22 on the back straight and exit turns at 208 and cross start at 216. By the way these are completley solo times, with grip reduction on real. I highly doubt your running .400 faster then the fastest person i know of. Until you prove it anyway.
 
Just seen your 2nd to last post with your speeds, you hit the same speeds I do, I doubt your running .500 or so faster then me, to even hit a 41 flat solo youd have to probably hit close to 230+ on the back straight alone.
 
add me, theycallmeherbie or GTP_Herbie, not to be mean but I have over 80 hours worth of ti,e spent in my tune, I don't need the setup but would love to see you post a qualify time. I run 41.5's I hit 221 sometimes 22 on the back straight and exit turns at 208 and cross start at 216. By the way these are completley solo times, with grip reduction on real. I highly doubt your running .400 faster then the fastest person i know of. Until you prove it anyway.

Yes, I've also never seen a guy who runs faster than 41.4XX. I can do these times but it's always very close. Even a 41.3 would surprise me.
 
I Have my seup set not bad but i still cant seem to get it that i break 220 in the backstreach and hold 215 in the turns. I have seen cars hold 215 in the turns alone. Just wondering if anyone wanted to share s great setup.

This one is a good set up for me with Denny hamlin 2010 car
Body and chassis
aero 20/40
tranny top speed 242
final gear 28.50
4th move bar all the way to the right
3rd 1.120
1st and 2nd move bar all the way to the left
MANUAL SHIFT is faster
DRIVETRAIN
60/60/15
SUSPENSION
ride height 15f/15r
spring rate 18.5f / 18.5r
extension 8f/6r
compression 8f/6r
anti roll 7f/6r

camber 4.5f/3.5 r
toe -0.05f/0.030r
RACING TIRES SOFT
Turn all of the assist of and if you are using a controllor turn the steering sensitity to 7. Drafting on Daytona I got a 38.5 sec lap DRAFTING top spped is 245mph by itself is 220 straight and 208 in the corners. OH one more thing this car setup is forthe top of the track it is fast just find the right grove and you got it...... Enjoy
 
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my nadcar car gets 39 sec daytona because of my turning i used to have a nascar car that could hold 210mph some people can hold 215mph on the turns ive seen a few anyways im just asking can you get a nascar car past 230mph or 225mph if you can may i have a look at the setup my psn is BIGMONEYMO_1
 
my nadcar car gets 39 sec daytona because of my turning i used to have a nascar car that could hold 210mph some people can hold 215mph on the turns ive seen a few anyways im just asking can you get a nascar car past 230mph or 225mph if you can may i have a look at the setup my psn is BIGMONEYMO_1
39 seconds OK this I have to see
my nadcar car gets 39 sec daytona because of my turning i used to have a nascar car that could hold 210mph some people can hold 215mph on the turns ive seen a few anyways im just asking can you get a nascar car past 230mph or 225mph if you can may i have a look at the setup my psn is BIGMONEYMO_1
You get a 39 second lap? OK this I have to see.I'm assuming you're doing this in a draft.
 
Will add my transmission later, but here is my suspension for qualifying.
Front/Rear
Ride Height: 15/-6
Springs: 20.0/20.0
Damper: 8/8
Damper: 8/8
ARB: 5/6

All camber and toe are zero.
 
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