Need a new Gaming Mouse, recommendations please

[Seismica]

I need a new gaming mouse as the mouse wheel on my current one has just broken.

My current one only lasted 4 months, but apart from that it was an excellent laser mouse, very responsive and was 3200dpi (Trust GM-4800). I'll be looking for something equal to or better, but also for something more durable, particularly the mouse wheel as in the past this has been the main cause of broken mice.

Does anybody have any recommendations? Target price, anything up to £100, but high prices need to be justified, i'd prefer to pay <£50.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I want a wired mouse, I don't want to bother with batteries for wireless.

 

[wfooshee]

Throwing it down when you got killed that last time probably didn't help it. I seriously doubt it can be repaired.

I mean, if you had access to their parts bin then yes, you could replace the broken pieces, but nobody repairs mice, they replace them. Get a new one.

 

[Seismica]

Throwing it down when you got killed that last time probably didn't help it. I seriously doubt it can be repaired.

I mean, if you had access to their parts bin then yes, you could replace the broken pieces, but nobody repairs mice, they replace them. Get a new one.

I take good care of my stuff, I think it's just general wear and tear because I use the mouse scrolling feature all of the time, aswell as pressing it down as a third mouse button when browsing to open in new tab, or when using various other pieces of software.

I repaired my previous mouse, but that had a screw and a removable cover whereas this one seems to be moulded into one piece. The only opening I can see (where the cable goes in below the L/R mouse buttons) is glued up.

I think i'll change the thread topic... If I can work out how to change the thread title

 

[nick09]

A screw could be be under the feet but you have to be careful removing those since there is also a layer of adhesive and that if it's a long strip you could bend it. I once took a logitech apart since the wheel jammed when I dropped it. I use a Logitech Anywhere MX and it's great a lot of surfaces. Though you may not prefer a small mouse for gaming and this mouse eats up batteries.

 

[F1GTR]

Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical. Cheap, comfy, performs really well.

 

[G.T]

I have a Corsair Vengeance M60 mouse which I doubt you can beat for build quality and robustness for its price (aluminum structure). Very responsive on all surfaces I've used it on and is comfortable. Well worth the money.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005QUQP76/?tag=gtplanetuk-20

I used to have a G500 before this, and prefer how this feels. But the G500 is a cheaper alternative if you still want a comfortable and responsive mouse. Can't say the build quality is the same compared to the Corsair though - been through 2 already due to the cord breaking (odd for Logitech anyways)...

 

[Seismica]

A screw could be be under the feet but you have to be careful removing those since there is also a layer of adhesive and that if it's a long strip you could bend it. I once took a logitech apart since the wheel jammed when I dropped it. I use a Logitech Anywhere MX and it's great a lot of surfaces. Though you may not prefer a small mouse for gaming and this mouse eats up batteries.

I forgot to mention, I'd much prefer a wired mouse to a wireless one.

Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical. Cheap, comfy, performs really well.

I've went from a 1200dpi optical, to a 2400dpi laser, to a 3200dpi laser mouse in the past 4 years or so. The difference in responsiveness is far too great so a cheap optical mouse is not really what I am looking for, I need something that can perform as good as or better than my current mouse.

I have a Corsair Vengeance M60 mouse which I doubt you can beat for build quality and robustness for its price (aluminum structure). Very responsive on all surfaces I've used it on and is comfortable. Well worth the money.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005QUQP76/?tag=gtplanetuk-20

I used to have a G500 before this, and prefer how this feels. But the G500 is a cheaper alternative if you still want a comfortable and responsive mouse. Can't say the build quality is the same compared to the Corsair though - been through 2 already due to the cord breaking (odd for Logitech anyways)...

That does look pretty good 👍. How long have you been using it for, just to give me an idea of the durability?

 

[Azuremen]

Anything beyond 1200 dpi doesn't really offer much from what I've found, otherwise you have to adjust the OS sensitivity quite bit. On that note, most mice that are nice tend to be much higher than that anyhow.

The most comfortable mouse I've used is the Mionix Naos 5000. It is rather large though, so depends on if you are a palm or claw grip type of person. The 3200 is similar but I believe it lacks a few features, if you are worried about price.

With similar shape, though a bit smaller and older, is the Logitech Mx518. I still use it fairly often on other computers, and it still makes for a great gaming mouse for long sessions.

A popular option in the pro-gaming, especially FPS games, is the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0.

 

[AOS-]

I forgot to mention, I'd much prefer a wired mouse to a wireless one.

While wireless gaming mice are making their way into the market, wired mice have not become obsolete just yet.

 

[Seismica]

Anything beyond 1200 dpi doesn't really offer much from what I've found, otherwise you have to adjust the OS sensitivity quite bit. On that note, most mice that are nice tend to be much higher than that anyhow.

The most comfortable mouse I've used is the Mionix Naos 5000. It is rather large though, so depends on if you are a palm or claw grip type of person. The 3200 is similar but I believe it lacks a few features, if you are worried about price.

With similar shape, though a bit smaller and older, is the Logitech Mx518. I still use it fairly often on other computers, and it still makes for a great gaming mouse for long sessions.

A popular option in the pro-gaming, especially FPS games, is the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0.

The difference in responsiveness is really noticeable in my opinion, but I do realise that it is a case of diminishing returns the higher you go. The higher the dpi the less you have to move your wrist so it helps ergonomically aswell, especially for heavy PC users. 3200dpi is good enough for me. This rules out quite a large proportion of the optical mice on the market, including the Logitech MX518. If I turn the DPI down on my current mouse it's just not a nice experience and would take a lot of getting used to. The NAOS-5000 does appear to be a little pricy but on the plus side it looks to be a very similar shape to my current mouse, so the 3200dpi version could be an option as you say.

While wireless gaming mice are making their way into the market, wired mice have not become obsolete just yet.

The main issues I have with wireless mice is that they are open to possible wireless interference and they run on batteries. The wire never bothers me at all and in general, wired mice are cheaper for some reason.

 

[Azuremen]

The difference in responsiveness is really noticeable in my opinion, but I do realise that it is a case of diminishing returns the higher you go. The higher the dpi the less you have to move your wrist so it helps ergonomically aswell, especially for heavy PC users. 3200dpi is good enough for me. This rules out quite a large proportion of the optical mice on the market, including the Logitech MX518. If I turn the DPI down on my current mouse it's just not a nice experience and would take a lot of getting used to. The NAOS-5000 does appear to be a little pricy but on the plus side it looks to be a very similar shape to my current mouse, so the 3200dpi version could be an option as you say.

How sensitive do you keep it? And do you use mouse acceleration?

I have mouse acceleration disabled, run mine normally at 3200 ish DPI, and can can go from my left monitor to my right in about 3 inches. I don't have to pick up my wrist to do this. I can have the same travel distance with the Mx518 by adjusting the sensitivity in Windows. Both of my current computers have more or less the same pixels traveled per distance the mouse moves.

You can't just adjust the DPI and expect things to feel the same, obviously. But if you adjust things at both ends it is fine. Though if you haven't disabled mouse acceleration, I'm not sure you have much room to complain anyhow.

 

[Seismica]

How sensitive do you keep it? And do you use mouse acceleration?

I have mouse acceleration disabled, run mine normally at 3200 ish DPI, and can can go from my left monitor to my right in about 3 inches. I don't have to pick up my wrist to do this. I can have the same travel distance with the Mx518 by adjusting the sensitivity in Windows. Both of my current computers have more or less the same pixels traveled per distance the mouse moves.

You can't just adjust the DPI and expect things to feel the same, obviously. But if you adjust things at both ends it is fine. Though if you haven't disabled mouse acceleration, I'm not sure you have much room to complain anyhow.

I'm not exactly sure what mouse acceleleration is, but I know that I have my mouse on the maximum dpi setting. When moving the mouse, it moves around 1-2cm, so never more than an inch, on my mousepad to move the cursor across the entire width of the screen, which is ideal for me really. If I move it slower it takes a greater distance on my mousepad to go the whole width of the screen, is that something to do with mouse acceleration?

I've gotten so used to high sensitivity I just don't think I can go back to a lower setting. I never change the on-the-fly settings on this mouse because it's uncomfortable for me.

Life is hard without the mouse wheel, I have to click and scroll, or even use the arrow buttons :'(

/firstworldproblems

 

[Azuremen]

Mouse acceleration is how the computer will move the cursor a different distance per distance the mouse travels based on its speed. So if you move the mouse slowly an inch versus fast an inch, the cursor will travel a shorter distance despite it going the same distance on the mouse pad.

Play with the actual windows sensitivity settings, and perhaps consider disabling mouse acceleration - most high level gamer can't stand, and I've found my accuracy has gone up quite a bit in general since disabling it.

Like I said before, there is more to how quickly the cursor moves than just dpi. DPI -> mouse drivers -> OS level sensitivity, and then acceleration will modify all of that based on the sampling rate effectively

 

[Murcie_LP640]

For less than £50 there's the Cyborg R.A.T3 but you can definitely justify the higher price for an R.A.T 7 or R.A.T 9. Fully adjustable and customisable to however you like it, loads of buttons, very comfortable and up to 5600dpi (3 has 3200, 7 and 9 have 5600dpi). The R.A.T 3 and 7 are wired, the R.A.T 9 is wireless.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search/r...0567031&ie=UTF8&qid=1331597974&rnid=419150031

 

[G.T]

That does look pretty good 👍. How long have you been using it for, just to give me an idea of the durability?

Only about 4 months, so not ages. But I can tell it should last for ageeees.

The software for it isn't great but they are improving it and it lets you do the things you would expect, i.e. change sensitivities etc

 

[Seismica]

This thread has been dormant for a while but i'm considering buying a new mouse very soon. I've been thinking; Logitech's customer service is second to none, i've heard countless stories of them replacing items after the warranty is up and i'm thinking if I can't get durability, I could go with them.

I saw this offer: http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/special-offers/blemished-box/devices/9814

But I am very put off by the COD branding. Does anybody recommend a Logitech mouse in particular? I'm a palm grip user, a smaller mouse causes cramp in my hand. The one that i've seen that looks the closest to my current mouse in shape is the G500.

I've heard conflicting stories about the G500 so i'm not so sure whether to go for that one, or to go for the Corsair M60 or even a RAT5. I think i'm looking at the £45-50 price range.

I tried to play Skyrim today and forgot that my scrolls wheel is mapped for weapon sheathing (I think). I also tried to play Mount and Blade the other day and couldn't change weapons or use my shield. I really need a mouse wheel.

 

[nick09]

Not as good of a deal but here's the regular mouse.

 

[Joey D]

I have the G9x mouse without the COD logo on it and I really like it. I really liked the customization of the weight since I tend to prefer a heavier mouse than most of the stuff I've found. I find it comfortable to use and there are a ton of settings that allow you to set up everything on the mouse just the way you want it. You can also program different speeds on the go, I like the mouse to be more responsive when I'm playing a game, but way slower when I'm working in Photoshop.

 

[bevo]

For less than £50 there's the Cyborg R.A.T3 but you can definitely justify the higher price for an R.A.T 7 or R.A.T 9. Fully adjustable and customisable to however you like it, loads of buttons, very comfortable and up to 5600dpi (3 has 3200, 7 and 9 have 5600dpi). The R.A.T 3 and 7 are wired, the R.A.T 9 is wireless.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search/r...0567031&ie=UTF8&qid=1331597974&rnid=419150031

I wouldn't recommend the RAT 7 or 9. I have a 7 and although I love how it feels in my hand, and all the features, it just doesn't work all that great. It's very picky with what kind of surface it is used on, and some of them it won't even work on. It's also kind of jittery, which makes it really hard to line up a long distance shot with.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Personally I'm not a fan of gaming mice. Other mice offer the same at a less cost. Plus all the gaming mice of recently seem to have a need for a special design which I can't imagine feels equally as comfortable as a simple mouse. Taking the R.A.T Cyborg series as an example now.

Currently I'm using a Logitech Performance MX mouse. It's no gaming mouse, but it serves just fine as one and costs less at that. It has more than enough buttons for keybinds, and the button where you rest your thumb is a fantastic button when working with a lot of files at once and you need to easily change between them. Plus the grip is very comfortable. I know it's a wireless mouse, but it hasn't failed on me yet and to recharge it you just plug it into your USB port. Personally I couldn't ask for a better mouse.

Otherwise I would second the MX518 that Azuremen suggested. My roommate has one, and it feels very nice indeed. Does its job better than some of the current gaming mice despite its age.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

But I am very put off by the COD branding. Does anybody recommend a Logitech mouse in particular? I'm a palm grip user, a smaller mouse causes cramp in my hand. The one that i've seen that looks the closest to my current mouse in shape is the G500.

If you're not a fan of smaller mice then I wouldn't really recommend the G9[x]. I found the shape a little odd too with the grips attached. Also I went through two of them in a month because the laser for unknown reasons became completely unresponsive and unfixable by any means. So I pretty much binned the idea of getting another G9 and ended up getting my current mouse, which is a Logitech MX1100:

It's wireless and compared to many gaming mice it's got a very low DPI but I use it for all my gaming and it's never missed a beat. I've got big hands and the MX1100 fits perfectly to my hand.

 

[Enigma]

Does anybody recommend a Logitech mouse in particular? I'm a palm grip user, a smaller mouse causes cramp in my hand. The one that i've seen that looks the closest to my current mouse in shape is the G500.

Have you considered the G400?

It's basically an updated version of the mx518, it also has a tougher scroll wheel than the G500, as in it's more "clicky" which is handy for toggling through weapons etc.

Also, it's wired and it's well priced.

 

[Conza]

I need a new gaming mouse as the mouse wheel on my current one has just broken.

My current one only lasted 4 months, but apart from that it was an excellent laser mouse, very responsive and was 3200dpi (Trust GM-4800). I'll be looking for something equal to or better, but also for something more durable, particularly the mouse wheel as in the past this has been the main cause of broken mice.

Does anybody have any recommendations? Target price, anything up to £100, but high prices need to be justified, i'd prefer to pay <£50.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I want a wired mouse, I don't want to bother with batteries for wireless.

A shame, there is a negative stigma associated with wireless due to 'make believe' lag that they might have, but as long as you have rechargable batteries, they are so much better for gaming than a wired mouse, I couldn't go back now, having that cable constantly tugging at you, or flopping about swaying the mouse, very irritating.

I had the Logitech G7, the premium wireless gaming mouse of its time, came with two rechargable batteries, and a little charger that plugs into the back of the computer, swapping takes 5 seconds once you're proficient with it. But it was wearing out, so I bought the G5 (identical mouse, but weights instead of rechargable batteries), and that cord killed it, completely different sensation, even though it had identical GHz, resolution, shape, ect.

I would strongly reccomend against a wired mouse if you can afford a wireless one, right now I believe the Razer Mamba is probably the best (also has the option of 'wired charge which is very nice, and can be constantly used as a 'wired' mouse to transmit signals too), Gigabyte also has one, but I would probably consider the Logitech G700 as well (not to be confused with older G7), I think it sits at a lower price point *checks eBay UK*.

Eg 1. G700 = 64 pounds

Eg 2. Mamba = 95 pounds

 

[Seismica]

A shame, there is a negative stigma associated with wireless due to 'make believe' lag that they might have, but as long as you have rechargable batteries, they are so much better for gaming than a wired mouse, I couldn't go back now, having that cable constantly tugging at you, or flopping about swaying the mouse, very irritating.

I had the Logitech G7, the premium wireless gaming mouse of its time, came with two rechargable batteries, and a little charger that plugs into the back of the computer, swapping takes 5 seconds once you're proficient with it. But it was wearing out, so I bought the G5 (identical mouse, but weights instead of rechargable batteries), and that cord killed it, completely different sensation, even though it had identical GHz, resolution, shape, ect.

I would strongly reccomend against a wired mouse if you can afford a wireless one, right now I believe the Razer Mamba is probably the best (also has the option of 'wired charge which is very nice, and can be constantly used as a 'wired' mouse to transmit signals too), Gigabyte also has one, but I would probably consider the Logitech G700 as well (not to be confused with older G7), I think it sits at a lower price point *checks eBay UK*.

Eg 1. G700 = 64 pounds

Eg 2. Mamba = 95 pounds

Well, wired vs wireless is also a matter of personal preference. In my case, i'm used to a wired mouse. There is also the cost issue, wireless mice are usually priced £5+ more when there are fewer components.

 

[bevo]

A shame, there is a negative stigma associated with wireless due to 'make believe' lag that they might have, but as long as you have rechargable batteries, they are so much better for gaming than a wired mouse, I couldn't go back now, having that cable constantly tugging at you, or flopping about swaying the mouse, very irritating.

I had the Logitech G7, the premium wireless gaming mouse of its time, came with two rechargable batteries, and a little charger that plugs into the back of the computer, swapping takes 5 seconds once you're proficient with it. But it was wearing out, so I bought the G5 (identical mouse, but weights instead of rechargable batteries), and that cord killed it, completely different sensation, even though it had identical GHz, resolution, shape, ect.

I would strongly reccomend against a wired mouse if you can afford a wireless one, right now I believe the Razer Mamba is probably the best (also has the option of 'wired charge which is very nice, and can be constantly used as a 'wired' mouse to transmit signals too), Gigabyte also has one, but I would probably consider the Logitech G700 as well (not to be confused with older G7), I think it sits at a lower price point *checks eBay UK*.

Eg 1. G700 = 64 pounds

Eg 2. Mamba = 95 pounds

I'm exactly the opposite. I used a wireless mouse and wireless controllers for a long time, and I've finally went back to wired. I hate having to worry about charging batteries and battery packs not holding charges. Keep in mind I run alot of RC cars so I'm use to having to keep batteries charged, balanced and maintained. For a mouse, keyboard, or game controllers though, I would much rather be wired in. There's nothing worse then your controller battery going dead and being out of AA, or AAA batteries.

If you do go wireless though, get some decent batteries and a maha charger. The batteries will be cheaper then what you can buy in a store and last much longer, the charger will also make the batteries hold charge longer, because it will charge each battery individually instead of just stopping when one battery is charged, it will charge them all completely.

 

[Conza]

I'm exactly the opposite. I used a wireless mouse and wireless controllers for a long time, and I've finally went back to wired. I hate having to worry about charging batteries and battery packs not holding charges. Keep in mind I run alot of RC cars so I'm use to having to keep batteries charged, balanced and maintained. For a mouse, keyboard, or game controllers though, I would much rather be wired in. There's nothing worse then your controller battery going dead and being out of AA, or AAA batteries.

If you do go wireless though, get some decent batteries and a maha charger. The batteries will be cheaper then what you can buy in a store and last much longer, the charger will also make the batteries hold charge longer, because it will charge each battery individually instead of just stopping when one battery is charged, it will charge them all completely.

A pity, your experiences seem to be with inferior AA and AAA battery products, I wouldn't touch anything like that when it comes to a Mouse and Keyboard with a 10 foot poll. For that reason.

I would submit that since mostly your experiences are based on common batteries and not proprietary ones, that your perspective on wireless equitment is somewhat skewed, if you had a G7 like mine which came standard with 2 battery 'packs' (a small square piece similar in size to a CF card), and a usb charging dock, your thoughts on wireless devices would be somewhat different.

I also have a dislike for AA and AAA battery products, but when it comes to wireless gaming devices if you avoid them there as well, I believe they are the way of the future, and see no reason to use a wired mouse now other than a cost factor.

 

[lemansfanatic]

Yes, dark lasers ars the best thing to happen to the optical mouse since the optical mouse. more accurate than most players will be able to find fault in. the battery issue is personal though, i do understand that point.

 

[mp10]

I've just recently bought the a xenta gaming mouse, its pretty good. Only bad point is that the two side buttons sit flush with the side panel, other than that a good purchase for £5.

http://www.ebuyer.com/225880-xenta-...hm-3328?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products

 

[Spike125]

I have great experience with all generations of Logitech mice over the years.
Currently i'm using a R.A.T. Cyborg, which is a great mouse with a lot of modding options, but quite expensive.
IMO the Logitech G9x would be great for you, in case you are lefty the you should go for a Razor mouse.
Don't forget, most likely you also have to replace your mousepad for a new generation laser mouse.

 

[Seismica]

I think I will be going for a Logitech G500, which I will be buying once I see a good deal on it (<£40). I was going to buy it around my Birthday, but i'll likely wait until after my exams, otherwise I will be too distracted

I've just recently bought the a xenta gaming mouse, its pretty good. Only bad point is that the two side buttons sit flush with the side panel, other than that a good purchase for £5.

http://www.ebuyer.com/225880-xenta-...hm-3328?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products

I think that is a bit below what i'm aiming to buy, though I'll consider something like that as a backup in future, as my current backup mouse has the same issues with the mouse wheel that my gaming mouse does.

I have great experience with all generations of Logitech mice over the years.
Currently i'm using a R.A.T. Cyborg, which is a great mouse with a lot of modding options, but quite expensive.
IMO the Logitech G9x would be great for you, in case you are lefty the you should go for a Razor mouse.
Don't forget, most likely you also have to replace your mousepad for a new generation laser mouse.

I bought a decent mousepad when I bought my Trust mouse. It's one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RL9A2Y/?tag=gtplanetuk-20

I'm right handed so no problem there. Someone suggested that the G9x would be too small as I tend to grip the mouse with my palm, not the 'claw' grip which I know is also quite popular. A RAT mouse would be good if I find a good price, but at the same pricepoint as a G500, A RAT 5 doesn't seem to have anything going for it.