New CLK63 AMG

[Poverty]

Since when does a enthusiats decide to buy a Merc AMG? The M cars biggest market might be the US but thats not the main reason why BMW make them. They provide a halo effect for the bigger picture of making sales in the UK. BMW's engines are very european minded. Mercedes werent ever since for some reason they decided to take over chrysler. However theyre starting to get better agin and theyre engiens arent as bad as I orginally thought. They are very good engines as they still rev past 7000rpm.

However in their case making cars with big power, big torque, and a chassis that cant handle it is very 90's american but I suppose theyre not that bad. Its just because of the high expectations put on mercedes.

 

[JohnBM01]

Ahh... I see my favorite recent Mercedes-Benz here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_R171

Let it be known that I think Mercedes-Benz makes some of Germany's most beautiful automobiles. Power and beauty seem to be possessed in this package. They are the proverbial beautiful beasts. Angellic devils (Devilish angels too?). I think they look pretty nice. Can they play the part of good track car? Very likely. I'm sure if they can back up their horsepower with good performance on the track, then they earned my respect. You know what you're getting with most high-class German cars.

Using the same website M-Spec offered, well, you can see for yourself which looks nicer between the CLK63 AMG and the CLS class at { http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_450SEL_6.9 }. Actually, I like almost every modern Mercedes-Benz... except maybe the M-class SUV or maybe even the GL-Class SUV of theirs. Even including the CLS-Class autos. I usually forget the CLS-Class models. The CLS Class looks pretty nice to me. Had to get adjusted to it a bit, but I actually like both the CLK and CLS models.

 

[YSSMAN]

Poverty, I am confused by your arguement. You say that enthusiests dont shop for AMG models, and yet they build cars like the CLK DTM...

AMG does a better job at building a more relaxed sports car, and I really can't see where there is a problem with that. With BMW being Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with the M5 and M6, I applaud AMG for sticking to their guns and doing what they have always done; thow a big engine in whatever car they can get, tune the suspension and aerodynamics accordingly, and youve got yourself an AMG-spec car or truck.

I would admit that if I was looking for an Über sedan, the AMG would get a very close look. After BMW ruined the M5, it would probably come down to the S6, E63, and STS-V... And although the thought of a V10 AWD Audi is appealing, the Musclecar-inspiried E63 or STS-V would probably win my vote...

 

[Poverty]

Well if you want an automatic....

Just wait for the RS6 to blow all of them out the water. Theres a possibility of the V10 getting turbocharged to 600hp.

 

[JCE]

But in a Mercedez you do..

You should know mercs have a horrible sensation of speed.

Last week I drove the co-worker of mine's SL55 AMG and it has a wonderful sensation of speed. 👍

 

[JohnBM01]

Turbocharged V10? That should be some sick wheels if that's true.

 

[///M-Spec]

Since when does a enthusiats decide to buy a Merc AMG?

I know a wealthy attorney here in town who bought one of the first W211 E55 AMGs off the boat --the 476 hp version, to replace his E39 M5. The car used to be his daily driver until he decided to replace it with an F430.

The guy owns a vast stable of exotic cars, including a real 427 Cobra complete with history and documentation, a 996 GT3, a Shelby GT500 and 2 Ferrari 360s; a Challenge and a Challenge Stradale. The former he uses to race in the stateside Challenge Series and the latter he just uses to putter around town in. (it's always a hoot to see the Stradale in the parking lot of the local Walmart)

Anyone willing to drive a Stradale on a milk-run to Walmart definately counts as an enthusiast in my book.

The M cars biggest market might be the US but thats not the main reason why BMW make them. They provide a halo effect for the bigger picture of making sales in the UK.

Why BMW makes them doesn't matter in our discussion. What matters is that Americans buy them. If Americans only bought cars with monsterous cartoon engines that handled like rubbish, BMW couldn't sell M cars here. But since they sell more M cars here than anywhere else, what does that tell you about American tastes?

BMW's engines are very european minded. Mercedes werent ever since for some reason they decided to take over chrysler. However theyre starting to get better agin and theyre engiens arent as bad as I orginally thought. They are very good engines as they still rev past 7000rpm.

What on earth are you talking about?

However in their case making cars with big power, big torque, and a chassis that cant handle it is very 90's american but I suppose theyre not that bad. Its just because of the high expectations put on mercedes.

I can think of several American cars from the 90s with big power and torque that handle just fine.


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[Danny]

Whether you like them or not, these are huge achievements.

 

[Appie]

its a awsome ride, too bad they putting a 7 speed gear. I think you won't be needing the 7th gear
well anyway, thats what i think:tup:

and this engine has even more torgue than the engine that was in the mighty SL65

 

[YSSMAN]

...Well, with the seven speed auto, all of the gears are signifigantly shortened compared to the outgoing 5-speed model. Given how the transmission has allready performed in the current gen (and the few new next-gen S550s) models, the car will skip gears to maximise fuel economy, as well as skip gears going down to improve performance.

...Although I have no clue what the gear ratios are for the car, you can probably expect a fairly tall axle ratio with gears 1-5 being somewhat short, and six and seven being pretty tall overdrive gears.

 

[GT4_Rule]

Reportedly Toyota is working on a new 8-speed auto to put in their new Lexus LS...I think everyone knows that here right...? I'm the slow one...oh well.

Anyways, back to the topic, I think AMG gotta stop sooner or later with the displacement increase. These cars eat up fuels in gallons and they return it in CO2s...but the improved performance and power is something people brag about anyways...and people who buy these cars don't care about fule economy so ya

But I can't believe they managed to crank out more power in the Naturally Aspirated 6.3L than the previous supercharged 6.0L V12...amazing. I wonder what happens if they put on a supercharger or a turbocharger to it

 

[Danny]

Anyways, back to the topic, I think AMG gotta stop sooner or later with the displacement increase. These cars eat up fuels in gallons and they return it in CO2s...but the improved performance and power is something people brag about anyways...and people who buy these cars don't care about fule economy so ya

But there's loads of people buying economical cars, so that pretty much evens it out

 

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by /////AMG
WOW!!!!!!!

New CLK 63 AMG Grand Prix Safety Car

AMG presents the new Formula 1 safety car

In its debut year, the brand-new CLK 63 AMG will also debut as the official FIA safety car for the 2006 Formula 1 season. With its 354 kW/481 hp AMG 6.3-litre V8 engine its modified brakes, suspension, cooling and exhaust system, and an extensive package of lightweight components, the fast-paced coupé is well prepared for its responsible role on the Formula 1 racing circuits. The first outing for the CLK 63 AMG safety car will be at the Bahrain Grand Prix (March 9 to 12, 2006); the standard version will then appear in the second quarter of 2006. Meanwhile, as in previous years, the C 55 AMG estate will be ready for action in all 18 Formula 1 races as the official medical car. Its job is to help as fast as possible at the scene of an emergency.

The CLK 63 AMG safety car will have the task of keeping the Formula 1 racecars safely out of trouble in the event of accidents or bad weather. At a signal from Race Control, the safety car piloted by former DTM driver Bernd Mayländer must move into position at the head of the field and lead the cars round the track at the fastest possible speed – since otherwise the high-engine F1 engines will overheat and the tyres will lose grip.

The high-speed AMG V8 Coupé is excellently equipped for this job. Its new, eight-cylinder naturally aspirated engine, which was developed entirely by AMG, has a displacement of 6.3 litres and develops maximum power of 354 kW/481 hp at 6800 rpm and maximum torque of 630 Newton metres at 5000 rpm. The power is managed by an AMG SPEEDSHIFT 7G-TRONIC automatic transmission with steering-wheel shift paddles. For its Formula 1 role, the CLK 63 AMG gets a new throaty-sounding exhaust system which will go down well with motor sport fans both at the track and in front of the TV screens.

The new AMG safety car is well endowed with motor sport technology to help it brave any climate, including a high-performance radiator, two engine oil coolers fitted in the sides of the front apron and an auxiliary, larger transmission oil cooler. The rear axle differential has cooling fins and separate oil cooler.

Racing-derived suspension and brake technology

To optimise handling, further typical racing features of the safety car include an adjustable threaded suspension and 19-inch AMG forged alloy wheels with wide-base tyres, size 235/35 at the front and 265/30 at the rear. The safety car has a 70 millimetres wider track at the front and a 60 millimetres wider track at the rear than the standard car, as indicated by the wider wheel arches. The new larger-sized AMG high-performance brake system with excellent braking per-formance and fade characteristics features 390-millimetre composite discs at the front with six-piston callipers, and 330-millimetre steel brake discs with four-piston callipers at the rear. The brake discs are vented and perforated on all wheels. Since the front brakes take more load than the rear brakes, they are equipped with specially adapted cooling ducts.

150 kg lighter than the standard version due to high-tech components

In terms of performance, the AMG safety car gets an added edge from being more than 150 kilograms lighter than the road version – despite all the additional componentry such as communication equipment, lights, rear axle and brake cooling and the larger wheels and brake system. The Mercedes-AMG engineers made these substantial weight savings by using carbon fibre-reinforced plastic (CFRP), a high-tech material used in Formula 1 and the DTM. The front and rear aprons, the bonnet, the front wings and the doors are all made from this light-weight material. The AMG safety car weighs in at 1600 kilograms, making it more than 150 kilograms lighter than the standard CLK 63 AMG, which weighs 1755 kg (both figures EC kerb weight).

Sophisticated signalling system and communication equipment

The main visual indicators that this is not the standard CLK 63 AMG are the FIA F1 logos and the lights on the roof. The white strobe lights in the headlamps and taillights are always on when the car is in action. They have a neutral function and simply serve to attract attention. To communicate with Race Control, the safety car is equipped with a sophisticated radio system, a TV monitor and TV cameras mounted inside and outside the vehicle. Bernd Mayländer's "workplace" is fitted with two bucket seats with 4-point belts, exclusive silver/black leather upholstery, F1 sill panels, a high-grip AMG sports steering wheel and superior-quality carbon trim, all of which emphasise the special character of the new FIA safety car from Mercedes-AMG.

Mercedes-AMG has been supplying the Formula 1 safety car continuously for the past ten years. A V8 AMG E-Class Coupé was used as a medical car as far back as 1984.

Heck yes!

 

[YSSMAN]

Looks good. I think the Bodykit isnt on the production car, however...

 

[GT4_Rule]

If it was, that would be a killer!

 

[joseph dobson]

it looks good,a nd i bet it will be fast!