New Ford Falcon (Sorry for Hi-Res)

  • Thread starter Thread starter Casio
  • 120 comments
  • 6,565 views
They had a cooler concept thingy a few years back...

Ford%20Interceptor%202002.jpg


I liked the look!
 
They had a cooler concept thingy a few years back...

Ford%20Interceptor%202002.jpg


I liked the look!

That's still a panther platform'd Crown Vic with a new front bumper and wheels. :grumpy:
 
Yes, I know... But it looked bad-ass!

Either way, I'd be happy...
 
I would also love to see a photoshopped interceptor concept.... :crazy:
 
Pretend these Australian Ford Falcons came to the U.S. Would you buy one (even if under a different name)? Would they sell well in the States?
 
If they keep it cheap-ish it would. I mean the Mustang sales are insane, why shouldn't the Falcon be the same way?
 
Pretend these Australian Ford Falcons came to the U.S. Would you buy one (even if under a different name)? Would they sell well in the States?

I'd be watching the G8. The two are competitors down under (I think), so if the G8 sells that would prove there is a market for the car and the Falcon probably would sell about as well. And I have few doubts the G8 will be a success.
 
I've only seen one G8 GT on the road here in domestic-friendly Michigan, but that being said, the local dealer (so far) has only received three. So its a tough call...
 
Pretend these Australian Ford Falcons came to the U.S. Would you buy one (even if under a different name)? Would they sell well in the States?

Yes and yes. Since I'm a Ford man the Falcon is my alternative to having to get the G8--which I love too. but that Ford badge just looks too awsome...and with the EcoBoost twin turbos it will be a riot.
 
I've only seen one G8 GT on the road here in domestic-friendly Michigan, but that being said, the local dealer (so far) has only received three. So its a tough call...

The car also hasn't been out that long. I think I could still count the number of baby eating Focii I've seen on the roads on one hand. I still haven't seen any G8s on the road, but I'm guessing they will become more common after summer.

I guess one of my friends saw one in some fenced lot over spring break, so they are out there.
 
I jumped in a new unreleased FPV F6 Falcon today on display (and some other FG models), had a little fiddle around, not too bad. Much of what I expected.
 
To the one who commented that I sound more Australian than American... I just say this: "I'm American. I just think differently." I'm almost never pro-patriotic.

Someone mentioned these Falcons look too soft. I actually like soft lines, even for cars like these. It probably is the character for cars like these. They aren't Cadillacs in design. They aren't all edgy with (sometimes) overaggressive and deplorably ugly styling cues. I'm more a fan of European-styled cars for those that aren't supposed to be all-out speed demons. I say the designs are subtle without looking too bland. Like I praised one car once in this forum. When I asked what would make this car better (I think it was a European Chevrolet), someone said "a car crusher." I don't hate these cars. These Aussie Falcons have American aggression with European styling (I always say Australia is a little of America and a little of Europe). It's a sugar-sweet marriage of two styles of automobiles. The character of American cars are usually predicated on edginess and boldness. The Falcon (as I read on Page 2) weighs in at 1,740 kilograms (meaning 3,757 (rounded to nearest whole number) lbs.). They weigh about as much as some old school muscle cars. I'd probably lighten it considerably if I were tuning one up to be a performance powerhouse. A weight of 3,757 is more like luxury cars to me. Maybe even in the league of some Audis. I think a weight of no more than 3,400 lbs is pretty good for a car of its class.

Would you want a Falcon Ute in the States like on Page 1 of this thread? I think this could depend on how Pontiac's new sport truck (a ute for the rest of us) does in America. Success of that machine may mean Ford may think about brining in one of those Falcon utes, even if under a different name. I prefer calling them utes than sports trucks. The Dodge Ram SRT-10 is a sports truck. Whatever Pontiac is coming up with is not a sport truck.
 
I agree with you John on Austrailian vs American car design. Somehow the Austrailians have gotten it perfectly, time and time again on good car design while us Americans are stuck in this funk of making fugly cars with lame drivetrains...I really wish Ford would just kidnap a bunch of Aussy car designers and force them to design American cars for us! :lol:
 
They did, he's working for Cadillac. :lol: I like American design, muscular suits me fine, European is good too, it's Japanese design that doesn't tickle my fancy. (Except the new GT-R which looks OK)
 
First steer of the Falcon from CarAdvice, I hope it's not that much better than VE like they're claiming. :scared:

www.caradvice.com.au

Originally Posted by CarAdvice
2008 Ford FG Falcon First Steer & Review



By David Twomey

Ford’s new FG Falcon is a huge step forward for the Blue Oval with improved vehicle dynamics, handling, performance and safety advances, the big question is will the buyers realise this or even care.



After close to 500 kilometres and a major two-day national media drive program in Central Victoria CarAdvice can say that this car is so much better in almost every respect than the already good BF III Falcon.

Read more…





There’s just one problem, the looks of the car don’t convey the massive level of work that has gone on under the skin.




Sure, when you look at the detail of the design the FG is substantially different to the BF but the drive-by impression leaves you wondering if you are looking at an FG or a BF.




The standout impressions of driving almost every model in the range for me is the balanced handling, the new front suspension and the variable ratio steering, which make this a really sweet car to drive.




It’s balanced in almost every situation, although on rougher roads there is some rack-rattle through the steering, and the suspension of the XT, with its 215/60R16 tyres, does have to work hard to keep the car under control at the limit.




Not so the newest, and most identifiable member of the Falcon fleet the luxury performance G6 range. In basic form the car is really a dressed up XT with more interior luxury a sportier suspension and a ‘Mondeo’ nose that at least makes you realise this is a new Falcon.




The G6 and G6E are nice but the real sleeper is the G6E Turbo, which can only be described as a ‘concealed weapon’. This thing is seriously quick and the 270kW engine fairly hurls the car down the road – until your suddenly hit the factory fitted speed limiter at 200km/h.





Ford’s excuse: ” it’s needed to protect the transmission”.

Well come on guys, the same superb six-speed ZF auto gearbox is used in the XR6 Turbo, which is limited to 230km/h, and its also used in Euro brands that are capable of 250km/h+!

Swap to the similarly powered XR6 Turbo and at least you can hit 230km/h before the limiter steps in, but really these feel like 300km/h cars and we’d just love to have the opportunity to give one a blast down an autobahn.




In the XR range the real treat comes with the XR6 Turbo with the revised six-speed manual gearbox. You’ve just got to try the launch control – we did and it is manic.
Pop the car into 1st gear, floor the throttle and it will lock the revs onto 3500rpm, then dump the clutch and hang one!!

The car just rockets away from standstill and you are instantly grabbing second gear. One word of warning, don’t try it with the traction control turned off, unless you like axle tramp.

The new FG Falcon is more than just the performance models; it is a range of large family sedans that offer excellent levels of refinement, handling that will cope with almost any situation and sharp pricing.




Ford claims this Falcon is the safest car it has ever built and we’d certainly say it has excellent credentials, the final verdict will come when it gets tested by the independent safety authority, ANCAP, and Ford insiders have told CarAdvice that they are quietly confident it will become the first five-star safety rated Australian built car.

Ford President bill Osborne said that he was very confident about the safety rating for the new Falcon and defended the decision to offer only four airbags on most models, with curtain airbags a $300 option on all but the premium models.




The Falcon’s base 4.0-litre in-line six-cylinder engine is almost unrecognisable as the power plant from the BF and in cars like the XR6 it revs and barks with a sweet aggression than Holden’s asthmatic V6.

With 195kW, impressive real-driving fuel economy in the order of 9.0L/100km, in part thanks to the all-new French sourced five speed automatic gearbox the FG Falcon is a large car winner.

Interior space, the fit and finish of the trim and the roominess, including much improved rear seat ingress/egress due to a change in the shape of the rear roofline plus much wider opening doors have all served to overcome some of the often-criticised areas of the BF.




Suspension settings across the four options on offer from the base XT to the high performance XR6 Turbo and the one V8 that remains in the range the XR8 all offer levels of grip and handling that is first class.

A number of the cars we drove were on the optional 19 inch rims and even these provided a level of compliance and comfort, while exhibiting prodigious grip.




This is truly a car that can shade Holden’s VE Commodore, in fact I’d be so bold as to say it is definitely a better car, especially when you consider attributes like the standard five-speed automatic and the balanced, refined handling and ride.

2008 Ford FG Falcon pricing summary:

2008 Ford FG Falcon XT $36,490
2008 Ford FG FalconXR6 $39,990
2008 Ford FG FalconXR6T $45,490
2008 Ford FG FalconXR8 $45,490
2008 Ford FG Falcon G6 $39,990
2008 Ford FG Falcon G6E $46,990
2008 Ford FG Falcon G6ET $54,990
Options

6spd automatic transmission $1,500
Egas $1,400
XT 16″ alloys $500
XR 18″ alloys $1,000
XR luxury pack $5,000 ($5,400 on std XR6) inc leather, permium, dualzone, 19″ alloys
G6 & G6E 18″ alloys $1,000
G6ET 19″ alloys $2,000
Techonolgy pack $450 inc blutooth and ipod intergration
Read more:
 
Today I saw a FG "Base model" ute parked in a Bosch factory. It was white, immediately caught my eye. It was pretty far away so no pics, but I must say the front end looks nice, but the rear was just too plain.
 
The FG actually caught your eye from a distance? :odd: It looks like a BF even close up.
 
Maybe it was the fact he saw a big white whale in the distance and thought it must have been a FG.
 
I Saw plenty of the new Falcons today parked near the Ford Factory. I also saw the FPV GT going up and down the road nearby, and it looks even better than it does in the photos.
 
and it looks even better than it does in the photos.

I agree, I saw and sat in the FPV's at the motorshow, they do look better in person rather than the photos.
 
I see. It'll probably be some time before they drift north to QLD, so I'm not expecting to suddenly see one any time soon.
Did you all hear the official FPV power figures? Something around 315kw for the F6 and 320kw for the GT.........I think.
 
I have been waiting for the FPV power figures, no sign of them at the motorshow. :(
 
The F6 models will have a turbo-six with 310kW, and the 5.4-litre V8 will churn out 315 kW. HSV will win ultimately in the power war though, with the soon-to-arrive 5.7l V8 going up to 317kW.
 
The F6 models will have a turbo-six with 310kW, and the 5.4-litre V8 will churn out 315 kW. HSV will win ultimately in the power war though, with the soon-to-arrive 5.7l V8 going up to 317kW.

HSV are going back to a 5.7? I don't think so.

HSV has already won the power war anyway with the W427.
 
The F6 models will have a turbo-six with 310kW, and the 5.4-litre V8 will churn out 315 kW. HSV will win ultimately in the power war though, with the soon-to-arrive 5.7l V8 going up to 317kW.

They're going up to 6.2L, with some 320kw. But you're right about the FPV power levels. The F6 has a wide torque band and will be lighter than HSV though :indiff: These things always reach caradvice.com.au. And I can't wait for Australian Top Gear to start so I can see all these beasts in action ;) Go the W427 :dopey:
 
HSV has already won the power war anyway with the W427.
Totally different demographic of people in concerns to that car. Not exactly the daily driver a Clubsport or F6 can be..... unless you have very deep pockets and a low IQ.....:)

EDIT:
nd 4 holden speed
They're going up to 6.2L, with some 320kw
That power figure is incorrect. GT Pro is right, its 317kw in the HSV's
 
Low IQ? Don't make me report you for insulting my kind of people. It could easily be a daily driver, it's a 4 door sedan still, not a Corvette.
 
I sat in a few new Falcons today at the Perth Motorshow, Including the FPV GT, Typhoon, XR6, Ute and G6. They do look better in real life then in the pictures (for some odd reason). Now, I only sat and observed... and from what I could see, the Interior build quality, plastics and fabric do not seem to be as good as the Holden VE. Apart from a few updates, it just felt as though I was sitting in a normal BA falcon... nothing special at all.

IMO, the exterior looks quite good. I love (greatly) the new Mondeo, and this follows a similar shape. I would still prefer the VE Commodore overall, based on what I've seen.

Edit: By the way, I'd like to mention that the interior of the Falcon looks and feels incredible when compared to the Dodge Avenger... My Goodness! I honestly cannot imagine a worse interior then the Avenger. :lol: So, two thumbs up for the Falcon.
 
Back