Each time I see new legit pictures of GT4, the more I (as well as others) want it. I think in Play magazine, Kazunori Yamauchi actually said during an interview "we are taking long to make this game, and we don't want to upset our fans about us taking this long. Of course, Polyphony Digital is "doing their thing," as hip-hop culture would say. For the most part, we came up with all these threads with considerations, ideas, wish lists, and all. But by fall (or winter... May never know), we'll be the judge of GT4. I'm sure it will still be as wholly accessible as anything else. Now if the penalty system can be toggled, it may sell more. If it CANNOT be toggled, it will just mean that Gran Turismo players will have to better their skills before playing GT4. Whenever a Wal-Mart, a Target, a Best Buy, or some other store has the game as a demo, I WANT IN! And if you like Gran Turismo 4 as well, you'd feel the same way.