New Laguna Seca

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Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
 
Yeah I had trouble the first time through it as well, but I believe it's way more accurate to the real life version if you ever see any onboard video of it. I also hate the new Midfield, you can't go flat out in the "S" section anymore :yuck:
 
The corner before the corkscrew (hahaha, I said screw) has changed from what I remembered. It took me a while to get the line right, but eventually I mastered it. Does anyone know if the track was changed in real life, hence, explaining the reason why it was changed in the game? (I think this question was brought up in the past, but too much of the three B's has ruined my memory, Beer, B*t*hez and Bdrugs)
 
Well, it is noticably different, but its not THAT bad. Heck, I don't hardly recognize half of Grand Valley. At least you can take comfort in the fact that they (claim they) made spec closer to the REAL track. What's the excuse for changing grand valley up? I'm not complaining too much--it does look more realistic. But yeah, the turn before and the second part of the corkscrew seem to both be a lot tighter, plus the new (or just a LOT more pronounced) dip just past the apex of that before turn makes it tougher, too.
 
The first corner (right after the home straight) seems ever so slightly different to me as well. I seem to be going off the track after I think I've taken the corner perfectly well. The exit of the corner seems to be at a tighter angle than in GT3, but maybe it's just me misjudging it. :sly:
 
Laguna Seca in GT4 has tighter corners. Compared to GT3's Laguna Seca, I found myself braking more before some of the corners. It's more accurate now though I think, although I can't say that I've actually driven at the real track and that it's more accurate.

It was actually my "home course" in GT3, practicing on it all the time in my S.S .Trueno. I found myself having to relearn the course in GT4. It's still good though.

I might make Nurburgring my home course this time though :)
 
That changed corner before the corkscrew at Laguna Seca made me think I was losing my mind. I kept flying into the sandtrap until I figured out that I had to slow down a *lot* more than I did in GT3. It's a lot harder to make good time through there now, but I don't know that's it's "worse." Just different.
 
I was getting a bit worried too when I kept hitting the sand on certain corners, but this thread restores my confidence a bit. Sometimes I race Laguna Seca like it was on GT3 without even thinking about it - just an instinct I've built up I guess.
 
Grand Valley is changed in a way in which I can't go through some parts with full throttle like I used to, on Laguna Seca I hardly noticed any differences. Some stretches of road seem to be longer and a couple of turns less tight, but that's all.
 
The GT3 version of Laguna Seca is off by a bit, which is why they went and re-mapped the entire thing for GT4. The GT4 version is about as spot-on accurate as possible. Why do you think it's such a widely known track for it's corkscrew? It screws a lot of people up, even professional drivers.
 
The GT3 corkscrew seemed to be a complete joke. Way too exaggerated. This one is more true to the real track, and i like it. There's nothing hard about it for me.

I do miss the nighttime factor of GT3's Laguna, though.
 
markj_87
I was getting a bit worried too when I kept hitting the sand on certain corners, but this thread restores my confidence a bit. Sometimes I race Laguna Seca like it was on GT3 without even thinking about it - just an instinct I've built up I guess.
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Yeah I did that a lot too. I was so used to the "GT3" way.
I hated the stupid sports truck race at Laguna Seca though. Not a good place for trucks....
 
I don't care how it has changed. Either change was for the better. Sony went back and reassessed the tracks and made the more realistic, and since that is what the real life counterpart is like, that is what I would rather have. Hell, since it has changed it gives me new gaming experience. Why would I cry over something new. If you've mastered it in a previous game and are pissed you can't play it the same in this game, maybe it is time that you hone up your skills and learn how to race on the fly again. It's more real, enjoy it!
 
I definitely find it a lot more challenging track this time around and still have trouble getting the speed right for the left hander heading up towards the corkscrew. Gone are the days of taking that baby flat out or almost.
 
I don't really have a problem with the new Seca, but I did like the one in GT3 better. I especially don't like the turn following the corkscrew.
 
Yeah it totally caught me off guard.

If it is more realistic, well, I guess that's better then.

One thing I have noticed that is GOOD is that I seem to stay on the track better for Laguna on the last corner.
 
I belive they re-tightened the corkscrew in real life also, as this forces the champ car drivers (among others) to slow down a HELL of a lot more. If you've ever seen older footage of champcars at laguna you would see that it never used to double back on it's self as much as it does now. Being an aussie i would be interested in seeing PD's version of some of our tracks. (bathurst, adelaide.....)
 
It's not as flat out as it used to be anymore.

I quite like it. The track is actually fairly easy to relearn because all but maybe 1 - 2 of corners have brake markers.
 
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Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
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haha yeah i bet you have totally raced a lot of laps around laguna seca in california, too, haven't you. totally your place to post opinions on the correctness of a course.
 
I don't like the new Laguna, especially around the corkscrew. Still, if the change makes the track more accurate and closer to the actual track, I welcome the changes.

P.S. Why was Mazda name added to the track?
 
So i've driven on the real laguna seca a couple times and the new one in GT4 is more realistic. I remember thinking i could take turns a lot faster from my GT3 experience :)

as for the 2 turns you mention, the one before the corkscrew is tighter like at the real track. in GT3 you could almost take it full throttle with the right line. and the corkscrew has a huge elevation change like how it is now in the game.

i miss the old GT3 LS track too, but id much rather have a more accurate one.
 
i like the new laguna seca. I was really fast on the old one, but i like the new one because it is closer to the real thing.

Mazda was added to the name because it is now Mazda Laguna Seca. If i remember right Mazda purchased the track. I don't think it is just a sponsor like on sports arena's, but i could be wrong. I ahve been hit in the head to many times to totally trust my memory.
 
markj_87
I was getting a bit worried too when I kept hitting the sand on certain corners, but this thread restores my confidence a bit. Sometimes I race Laguna Seca like it was on GT3 without even thinking about it - just an instinct I've built up I guess.
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Same, the first time I raced it in GT4 was like, damn I wasnt that bad at gt3 was I?
 
yes, gone are the days of 1:08's in the Denso Supra @ Laguna. But this is not a bad thing - more realism = better.

Likewise Laguna used to be my "testing ground" for any car in GT3. But in GT4, there is only one "testing ground"... Nurburgring. The Ring is just amazing to drive and I am addicted to it. Laguna has been dethroned in a BIG way.
 
the real 6c
I ahve been hit in the head to many times to totally trust my memory.
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:lol: Me too!


delobbo
yes, gone are the days of 1:08's in the Denso Supra @ Laguna. But this is not a bad thing - more realism = better.

Likewise Laguna used to be my "testing ground" for any car in GT3. But in GT4, there is only one "testing ground"... Nurburgring. The Ring is just amazing to drive and I am addicted to it. Laguna has been dethroned in a BIG way.
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Laguna was my testing track too. I haven't played the GT4 enough to get used to the 'ring yet(I'm on my last "S" License test), but I feel that I'd be in a complete agreement, once I get that track down.
 
i liked Laguna in GT3 for testing too. I ran the track "perfect" so I could always compare what car was faster or what change made the car better. I just think there is so much room for error if using nurburgring. Maybe its because i haven't memorized the nurburgring yet, but i can't drive several laps within tenths of a second of each other like i could at laguna in GT3.
 
I really like the Layout of GT4, but the Night Time setting is something I REALLY wish they had put in from GT3, I dont like the daytime setting at all :(
 
the real 6c
i like the new laguna seca. I was really fast on the old one, but i like the new one because it is closer to the real thing.

Mazda was added to the name because it is now Mazda Laguna Seca. If i remember right Mazda purchased the track. I don't think it is just a sponsor like on sports arena's, but i could be wrong. I ahve been hit in the head to many times to totally trust my memory.
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Yeah, I like the new one better as well; more realistic.
 
the real 6c
i liked Laguna in GT3 for testing too. I ran the track "perfect" so I could always compare what car was faster or what change made the car better. I just think there is so much room for error if using nurburgring. Maybe its because i haven't memorized the nurburgring yet, but i can't drive several laps within tenths of a second of each other like i could at laguna in GT3.
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You are right. I can't race on the nurburgring when I'm tired, because I'll lose focus few minutes into it. Laguna still is one of my favorite tracks and the shortness of the track keeps it still an great track to quickly test cars on.
 

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