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- Wilsonville, OR USA
- scca_ziptie
I have been a "GT'er" since the original game was released and was lucky enough to get GT5 a few days prior to release - been playing it ever since..
I haven't played the game with a DS3, but have been using a G27 the entire time(purchased for prologue) until yesterday. The difference was immediately noticable, picked up almost half a second around Suzuka in 3 laps of using the new wheel.
I purchased a Thrustmaster T500 RS and have to say it completely changed the "feel" of the game - aside from the HUGE difference in the wheel feedback, the biggest change being I am actually able to run cars without the ABS turned on w/o negative effect due to the fantastic pedal travel/feel. You can feel the individual corner's locking and really get an enhanced feel through the wheel. To try to put in words the difference in feel from the G27's wheel "feel" to the T500 RS - not in the same league so there is NO COMPETITION. 👎
Pedal's are far superior to the G27, wheel comfort and feeback are far superior to the G27 - T500 RS FTW !
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I have added a more "in depth review" of the wheel to my original post for ease of finding:
The feel through the steering wheel is very smooth, the “notchy” center/dead zone is completely absent with the T500 RS and no longer is the wheel prone to violent side to side movement on straightaways - added together result in the steadiest, most predictable turn in I’ve driven with to date with a peripheral. Moving the wheel “off center” has an immediate effect on the car, with a solid initial feeling that does not diminish and when quick opposite lock is required (let’s say snap over steer); the transition is smooth and without delay. There is almost no noise generated from the wheel assembly, only a faint electronic whir (noise) can be heard when the wheel is moved from center & also when what sounds like cooling fans (internal on assembly) come on after some run time. The force feedback is not only noticeably higher than the G27; it has a much smoother and responsive transition in FFB levels. The buttons have a very positive feel, with a noticeable “click” upon being depressed - this is nice when making rapid wheel adjustment as there is no accidental depression of buttons. Initially I thought the lack of the “manettino” was going to be a letdown, but it is easy to configure the buttons to replicate however you’d like (I used the D-pad & L2). The paddle shifters are firm and accidental gear changes should be able to be avoided due to this attribute. I can certainly the stationary paddle shifters took some getting used to, which I did not initially like – but now wish my M3 had rather than wheel mounted. Oh well.
The pedal assembly is approximately 16 pounds, so it is properly weighted and doesn’t have any unwanted movement while being used. With the pedal assembly in their self-dubbed “Rally” position (top hinged) – the entire pedal assembly loses some of its stability but can be gained back by placing it up against a flat surface and will then be as sturdy as when in “Formula” position (bottom hinged). The ability to invert the pedal assembly is a “cool” feature, and heel toe movement seems to be less obstructed. All of the pedals are adjustable vertically and in relation to each other horizontally. As the clutch pedal is currently “dead” with GT5 due to no gate pattern shifter, the only heel toe practice has been verified with movement of feet but with no reference available through the game (but is easily accomplished, feels fluid, and can be fine-tuned via orientation of pedals to one another). If you change between the two “pedal layouts” all you have to do is press the mode button on the wheel assembly base (and swap the pedal “faces” if you’d like, I’d recommend it). The pressure required to depress the clutch and gas pedals are very similar to the G27, with the gas pedal having a longer “throw.” The brake pedal has a noticeably larger amount of resistance in the out-of-the-box trim (compared to the G27’s which wasn’t bad), with approx. 10-15 lbs. more resistance able to be added via their “Realistic Brake Mod.” I personally didn’t like this extra addition when installed - as it decreased the brake pedal throw significantly – at least 50%.
I haven't played the game with a DS3, but have been using a G27 the entire time(purchased for prologue) until yesterday. The difference was immediately noticable, picked up almost half a second around Suzuka in 3 laps of using the new wheel.
I purchased a Thrustmaster T500 RS and have to say it completely changed the "feel" of the game - aside from the HUGE difference in the wheel feedback, the biggest change being I am actually able to run cars without the ABS turned on w/o negative effect due to the fantastic pedal travel/feel. You can feel the individual corner's locking and really get an enhanced feel through the wheel. To try to put in words the difference in feel from the G27's wheel "feel" to the T500 RS - not in the same league so there is NO COMPETITION. 👎
Pedal's are far superior to the G27, wheel comfort and feeback are far superior to the G27 - T500 RS FTW !
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I have added a more "in depth review" of the wheel to my original post for ease of finding:
The feel through the steering wheel is very smooth, the “notchy” center/dead zone is completely absent with the T500 RS and no longer is the wheel prone to violent side to side movement on straightaways - added together result in the steadiest, most predictable turn in I’ve driven with to date with a peripheral. Moving the wheel “off center” has an immediate effect on the car, with a solid initial feeling that does not diminish and when quick opposite lock is required (let’s say snap over steer); the transition is smooth and without delay. There is almost no noise generated from the wheel assembly, only a faint electronic whir (noise) can be heard when the wheel is moved from center & also when what sounds like cooling fans (internal on assembly) come on after some run time. The force feedback is not only noticeably higher than the G27; it has a much smoother and responsive transition in FFB levels. The buttons have a very positive feel, with a noticeable “click” upon being depressed - this is nice when making rapid wheel adjustment as there is no accidental depression of buttons. Initially I thought the lack of the “manettino” was going to be a letdown, but it is easy to configure the buttons to replicate however you’d like (I used the D-pad & L2). The paddle shifters are firm and accidental gear changes should be able to be avoided due to this attribute. I can certainly the stationary paddle shifters took some getting used to, which I did not initially like – but now wish my M3 had rather than wheel mounted. Oh well.
The pedal assembly is approximately 16 pounds, so it is properly weighted and doesn’t have any unwanted movement while being used. With the pedal assembly in their self-dubbed “Rally” position (top hinged) – the entire pedal assembly loses some of its stability but can be gained back by placing it up against a flat surface and will then be as sturdy as when in “Formula” position (bottom hinged). The ability to invert the pedal assembly is a “cool” feature, and heel toe movement seems to be less obstructed. All of the pedals are adjustable vertically and in relation to each other horizontally. As the clutch pedal is currently “dead” with GT5 due to no gate pattern shifter, the only heel toe practice has been verified with movement of feet but with no reference available through the game (but is easily accomplished, feels fluid, and can be fine-tuned via orientation of pedals to one another). If you change between the two “pedal layouts” all you have to do is press the mode button on the wheel assembly base (and swap the pedal “faces” if you’d like, I’d recommend it). The pressure required to depress the clutch and gas pedals are very similar to the G27, with the gas pedal having a longer “throw.” The brake pedal has a noticeably larger amount of resistance in the out-of-the-box trim (compared to the G27’s which wasn’t bad), with approx. 10-15 lbs. more resistance able to be added via their “Realistic Brake Mod.” I personally didn’t like this extra addition when installed - as it decreased the brake pedal throw significantly – at least 50%.
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, and the feeling must be great since it´s the official one. but you can´t say the g27 is bad because of this. that´s just not true. you´re right about the pedal thing you said, though. it is nearly impossible to drive fast with ABS turned off.with abs set to 1 it´s great and doesn´t make you slower. btw. most (modern) race cars have abs in rL. so it´s not unrealistic or so :>
especially considering that you can get an H-patter shifter for it.
