New member requires GT4 drift help

[Driftjunkie]

Hi folks. Recently became obsessed with drifting in gt4. Found the hyper sylviato be a good starting point but need help with tecniques, setups etc to get best from it. Any ideas would be much appreciated

 

[luftrofl]

So you're having trouble getting into the drift?
Exiting the turns?
Holding the drifts?

Post what you're having problems with and I, like many other members here, will try to help you.

 

[Driftjunkie]

So you're having trouble getting into the drift?
Exiting the turns?
Holding the drifts?

Post what you're having problems with and I, like many other members here, will try to help you.

cheers mate. exiting the turns without spinning out is the man prob. Having trouble getting the opposite lock on in time. then get massive pendulum effect and spin out. Very frustrating

 

[Driftjunkie]

I've found the D1 Hyper sylvia (i've left it standard) to be very useful and have has some sucess by changing driver aid settings and buying a customisable lsd but could do with any advise on setups to get a bit more from it

 

[luftrofl]

You're spinning out on the exits of turns? More countersteer and throttle control.

Don't worry about getting the front wheels to lock. You just need enough for them to be gripping for the angle that you've got.

Any more countersteer than what you need results in a snap effect that sends you to the outside of the track very quickly.

If you're having problems with snap, then just practice reducing countersteer as you go through turns.

I recommend that you start off in a production car, with low quality tires for starting(standard tires, N2 works quite well). The tires that the HKS silvia comes with are sports soft. I myself use them. But for learning, the lower-quality tires enable you to work on control without much consequence. Then slowly increase tire quality and car horsepower.

 

[luftrofl]

Driving aids? You want to turn all of them OFF. They only inhibit your ability to get the car sideways and keep it sideways.

 

[Driftjunkie]

Driving aids? You want to turn all of them OFF. They only inhibit your ability to get the car sideways and keep it sideways.

Yeah i found that no aids was best. Its mainly the snap i'm having problems with i don't seem to be able to catch it in time to stop the car spinning out

 

[Driftjunkie]

Any particular stock car you would suggest to start with?

 

[luftrofl]

Mazda rx7, nissan 240sx, s13, s14, s15, toyota supra, , etc.

Just practice reducing countersteer while in drift when you notice that your angle is decreasing/your speed is decreasing.

 

[ForcedInduction]

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[Mad Murphy NZ]

Grr, it's Silvia not Sylvia.

 

[hideyourface]

recently I've been using stock susepension, the I put hard sports tires on. I get rear end loose by, getting a wing and putting downforce on the front, getting a brake controller and putting them higher on the front, putting initial accel on the lsd really high, or mixing the tires and putting sports medium on the back. ching the brakes and downforce though make the car a bit unstead and can ge the car to slide when you dont want it to. Also if you're going to use sports tires(which next to nobody does) you should get higher hp.

when it comes to spinning out, you shouldn't get a really high angle when you're going through the turn. The most angle comes when you're exiting, but when enter, it's somewhat low angle, and then higher when you exit. When you're exiting, keep the car steering in the direction you want to go, and let off the gas to get it to straighten out.

 

[Boundary Layer]

when it comes to spinning out, you shouldn't get a really high angle when you're going through the turn. The most angle comes when you're exiting, but when enter, it's somewhat low angle, and then higher when you exit. When you're exiting, keep the car steering in the direction you want to go, and let off the gas to get it to straighten out.

hrm, I disagree. It's entirely possible to maintain a constant angle through a turn with a well balanced car.
BTW - do you not find your setups to be incredibly unpredictable by using downforce and tire stagger as your primary means for creating oversteer? lol, it would drive me nuts.

Driftjunkie, Welcome to GTP.
Please make use of the sticky threads and forum search function. 👍
The problem you're encountering with snap understeer can only be resolved by practicing. When it happens it means you've got a little bit too much countersteering angle happening (as I'm sure you realized already). Unlike GT3 where you could goto full lock without much penalty during your drifts, in GT4 you have to limit your inputs - only countersteer as much as is necessary and do it as smoothly as you can afford to.

The car you decide to learn on is not of huge importance, but the ones luftrofl suggested are quite popular and very easy to setup. IMO, what is important is for you to stick with whatever car you do choose until you can drift it in your sleep. Don't hop from one car to the next as soon as you experience some trouble. Experiment with difference settings and techniques to work through your difficulties, I think that's the best way for a new drifter to improve. 👍

That concludes my little rant.

 

[hideyourface]

hrm, I disagree. It's entirely possible to maintain a constant angle through a turn with a well balanced car.
BTW - do you not find your setups to be incredibly unpredictable by using downforce and tire stagger as your primary means for creating oversteer? lol, it would drive me nuts.

well Im just saying that if you're almost perpendicular to the side of the road when you're halfway through the drift, if you're even capable of straightening out, the exit is going to be slow and crappy. I mean if it's a short 90 degree turn you can get a lot of angle, but I think the only turns you can really have problems with spinning out are the ones that are a bit longer and that you have to hold the drift longer to get through.

And I did mention that chaning the brakes and downforce do make the car unstable p: But if you cant really tune suspension well yet, The stock suspension doesn't make the car as jumpy when you mix tires. At least thats what I think from experience.

I've gotten lots of cars to drift just as well as cars with racing suspension tuned to drift. Actually, I'd try this car our 85' mazda rx-t gt-limited (fc,j) all I did was get hard and medium sports, tune it to get max hp, get all the drivetrain
mods, and increase the initial accel on the lsd to 50. It's extremelyy easy and fun to drift by braking, shifting down and turning. I can make a lot of the U-turns with it that I wasn't able to make before.

 

[luftrofl]

I forgot one!

BMW 2002 turbo '73!

I find it very easy to drift and very predictable.

 

[Delphic Reason]

I forgot one!

BMW 2002 turbo '73!

I find it very easy to drift and very predictable.

Good call... Another oldy but goody is the '68 Nissan 2000 (convertable)... Very stable and easy to drift...

BL said everything I was going to say, so I'll leave it at that...