New official GT5:P & GT5 Wheel by Logitech and PD + GT5:P release dates confirmation

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 5: Prologue' started by amar212, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Nitrof1

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    I need a phisycal lock. I think everybody need :(
     
  2. Greycap

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    To be honest, nobody needs. There's no point in driving a road car with steering lock like that, even F1 cars have something around 360 degrees on tight circuits. If the real car was made with 2.5 turns lock to lock it certainly has to be driven like that in the game to get the feel of its handling. Software lock can be implemented on cars with less if needed.
     
  3. Nitrof1

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    yeah but cars in gt5p have short rotational steering wheel. I mean 599 or GT-R has no 900 degree support. if you lost control G25 does x1.5 empty turn then you need more effort to turn it back. is this making the driving physics harder actually for nothing?
     
  4. Goo

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    The major differences between metal and plastic pedals are that there is more flex in plastic than metal, and that with metal pedal arms/frames we are able to use stronger springs without experiencing mechanical failure of the parts to which the springs are attached. The new design of the DFGT pedal arms mitigates the effect of pedal arm flexing on the pot, increasing reliability and accuracy to G25 levels. Naturally, plastic is easier to break than metal, but the type of abuse that would be required to damage the DFGT's pedals is significant.

    There is no mechanical 200 degree stop in the DFGT. This is now handled via software, and is up to the game developer to implement.
     
  5. amar212

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    Thanx Goo, these words sounds great. I'll be adding DFGT to my collection this way or another, and I'm looking forward to test it when first examples arrive to distributor here.

    BTW Are you considering to buy Frex Company at some point maybe? I guess many would praise such a move.. :D
     
  6. Leonidae

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    Goo, what about G25? is it going to receive any updates that would improve the playing esperience with GT5
     
  7. Goo

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    The only way I can answer that question is to point out that the Driving Force GT is the only wheel licensed for Gran Turismo 5.
     
  8. kikie

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    Yep, I did. I used the wrong word. Let me refrase that: the only different feature is .....


    :)
     
  9. amar212

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    From other thread, thank Drillah - must see:

     
  10. isamu

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    Why would you want them to buy Frex? Just curious...
     
  11. amar212

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    Few reasons. To make their product more world-appeal, to make them cheaper in perspective of increasing the sales, to make them non just PC-oriented - and most important - to conjuct the Frex's experience and knowledge with PD's and respectfuly Logitech's in order to produce a high-end peripherals for GT series - which has the untouchable sales-margin, untouchable number of players who play it and untouchable brand-recognition worldwide.

    I can just wish something like that to happen, and I already know 5 people who would instantly buy their FF wheel (still in testing-phase), HydroBrake pedals (already in sale) and their G-cockpit (already in sales) - even with existing prices - if they'd be GT compatible and available in Europe through some normal retail network.
     
  12. isamu

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    Thanks for the reply. Those are certainly good reasons and I can't argue with them :)

    Regarding your 5 friends who would buy the Frex gear just for GT.... why do you suppose they would buy it only for GT? I mean, why won't they just buy Frex' stuff now, and use it for the current PC sims on the market such as rFactor, Race'07, etc? Do your 5 friends actually consider Gran Turismo(a console game) superior to rFactor and other such PC sims?

    This is the thing I'm trying to figure out with people who are so biased towards the GT series that they refuse to play PC racing sims. What is it about Gran Turismo that they feel is worth their time, over a PC sim such as rFactor, LFS, Race. etc?

    I used to kinda think like your 5 friends, until I realized that there are simply no high quality FFb wheels, shifters, pedals and motion cockpits that support console games. Then it donned on me that these high quality accessories, which love so much, are, and will most likely remain on a system designed to be flexible and to be played by real racing enthusiasts....the PC.
     
  13. amar212

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    Well, it's somehow ahrd to explain, but I'll try.

    GT series has something that non other games have. Maybe it's a fact we all drive it for a decade now, maybe it's variety of cars, maybe it's the fact we all like more to race "normal" cars han race cars, I don't know. But we never ever went deep in any PC game, while GT series always made us want more.

    Also, maybe it's a fact it comes on a console that does not need awful amount of money to invest in - like PC games does - in order to have decent play. All that money we have invested in 32" (40", even 50")-inch screens, great surrounds, cockpits, wheels and such.

    Also, despite the fact that LFS is somewhat a better simulator, rFactor offers better variety of user-made content, and that all PC games comes with details that GT does not have yet - day/night circles, variable weather, damage and so on - we have always stick with GT series because of that "something".

    I do not know what that "something" is yet, nor I can even try to explain it without writing down 100,000 words of explanations - but one day when I find out - I'll write a book about it :)
     
  14. RedBaron

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    amar212, very good speech, I feel it the same way. It's Kazunori's sense for detail that created just prescious game and It's necessary to be the real car fan and not plain gamer to appreciate it.
     
  15. LANDO

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    I would like to know if we could use the DFP pedals in the DFGT, I would like to buy one, but remove the pedals of my cockpit it will be difficult.
     
  16. Goo

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    Yes, the DFP's pedals are compatible with the DFGT.
     
  17. kikie

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    I've got an :idea:.

    When I use race cars in GT5, I'll use the DFGT.
    Most of the modern race cars have sequantial gearboxes.

    When I use stock cars, I use the G25 (clutch and H-pattern shifter).

    When can we expect the DFGT to be available for sale in Europe?




    :)
     
  18. Goo

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    They should be arriving in Europe in May, but depending on how long it takes them to get through the distribution channel it could be June before you see them in some areas. I cannot tell you how quickly it will get to one country or town vs another.
     
  19. kikie

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    And isn't it possible for logitech to make the first console compatible moving simulator with 5 DoF's (without *sway*) or with even all 6 DoF's?



    :)
     
  20. Goo

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    Highly unlikely.
     
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    thanks for this clanks!nice video...am getting more and more interested in this new wheel!!...cant wait to try it out:)
     
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  24. Japspecvr6

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    Hmmm....That review is not too in depth....doesnt make it tasty.....
     
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    Hi there, my first post.

    Played gt5p with this wheel at the play.com live event on sunday at Wembley stadium. Ive never used a forcefeedback wheel before, but was pretty impressed.

    But, a big but, I wish it was more realistic. Maybe it's just Ive driven too many cars and expect to much, but the force feedback seemed to come in waves when you went around a corner rather than having a smooth transition in and out.

    Back onto the good points. The wheel felt well made and was a good size. I only had about 6 laps in a crap mini cooper S so didn't have to fiddle with any settings, but overall it seemed like a good piece of kit which will be priced well. Il get one but Il have to choose a stand carefully to help me use it via my sofa as the mrs. would never allow a gaming chair, plus it is a little sad in my eyes. But Im getting old now at 22.

    ANyhow Im looking at getting something like the links below to use with this wheel, the first one especially as it is soo cheap..... Just hope it is built well enough to cope:

    1. http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/6171641/Trail/searchtext>DESK.htm
    2. http://www.speedblack.com/en_details.html
     
  26. resistance100

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    I'm more than happy with my Current DFP, and will stick with it for now. However when the final Gran Turismo 5 game comes out, i may look at this wheel then, or maybe the G25 will be a bit cheaper
     
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    My finger was hovering over the buy button for the DFP, but my mouse had a spasm and suddenly made me click and buy the G25 :sly:

    Lets hope Tgrav get it sent out asap, and Parcel Farce or which ever courier they use gets it to the parents house by friday. Then they can bring it down and I can bolt it to the ironing board and get gaming :D

    Gotta pray that gameplay get the game and everybodys golf out too, as a wheel without a game would be disasterous !
     
  28. hugo24

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    Can anyoen with a G25 answer me, how do you mount the gears to a computer table or a coffee table? Does it come with clamps like the wheel or do you have to drill it into something?

    Also in regards the G25 does anyone know if it's compatable with Motorstorm, F1 championship edition or Need For Speed Carbon on the ps3?
     
  29. Duratec

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    Yeah, the shifter console clamps the same way as the wheel.

    Not sure about motorstorm, but i believe the other two are compatible.
     
  30. hugo24

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    One more compatabilty question how about Ridge Racer 7, not sure I'd actually want to play Motorstorm with a wheel anyway...