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Mclaren said that if he didnt have his inheritance, he wouldnt have a place to live. Well, he could rent an apartment for 700 dollars a month. And guess what, that apartment would have more square feet than that 50,000 dollar luxury car. But, as Duke so eloquently stated, "Everyones priorities are no the same. Thank Goodness."
 
So what, the guy leased a BMW. Why you people gotta be all judgemental and that? Of course if you want to be "rational" about it, there's nothing "rational" or "sensible" about leasing (or buying for that matter) a car like a BMW. Like someone else said, the "sensible" thing to do is buy a 10-year Camry. But what would be the fun in driving a 10-year old Camry? If I were to buy a Ferrari, would you all crap all over me for not doing the "rational" thing and putting the money in a savings account instead? People can do whatever they want with their money, don't be so judgemental about how others spend their money.

Enjoy the car McLaren. I know how a new car feels. Just got one myself about 3 months ago :).
 
Understood and agreed with. But there is such a thing as "afford it" and then there's AFFORD IT. Not everyone's priorities are the same, thank goodness, but again: there are priorities and then there are priorities.

Mclaren said that if he didnt have his inheritance, he wouldnt have a place to live. Well, he could rent an apartment for 700 dollars a month. And guess what, that apartment would have more square feet than that 50,000 dollar luxury car. But, as Duke so eloquently stated, "Everyones priorities are no the same. Thank Goodness."

There's really two very separate issues we're discussing here.

The first issue is why anyone should pay $XYZ a month for a $50,000 car.

The second issue is why *McLaren*, at the tender age of 20 something who freely admits his inheritance allows him a lifestyle he could otherwise not sustain on his own, should pay $XYZ a month for a $50,000 car.

I was responding to the first question because it implied (at least to me) that a nice $50k luxury car could not be "rationalized", by anyone. As I said, a luxury item can NOT EVER be rationalized, nor does it need to be. That's why it's a luxury, rather than a necessity. If you want to get down to the nitty gritty about it; I can argue that any automobile is a luxury item, since it saves us the trouble of walking everywhere.

I was not, and don't feel the need to discuss the second question. That's because I don't feel it's really anyone's business but *McLaren*'s to decide what he can and can not afford. Or what his priorities should be. Only he can decide that.

I'm sure there are plenty of you thinking, "damn I'd do something way more useful with that $707 every month". And you would be absolutely in the right to feel that way... provided it was your $707 to spend. Maybe you can take solace in the fact that your own money is well spent and not worry about what makes other people happy.

In case my post comes across as harsher or more argumentative that it's intended to be, let me say point blank that I'm not trying to sound pissy or flame anyone. I just don't understand the need for all the criticism. For the record, I personally wouldn't spend that money on that particular car. But I also don't really feel a great need to criticize *McLaren* for not having the same priorities as me.

Well not a great length anyway... except maybe to complain he didn't get it in a manual :p Or the turbo. :D


Please dont tell us how much you paid next time. I think this thread would be more pleasant without knowing lol
Anyways congrats!
707 is a rip though.. http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/5/528iSedan/programs.htm?PanelID=4

Look closely at the fine print.

$3,569 Cash due at signing

He didn't pay ANYTHING down. No cap reduction means higher monthly payments. That deal is also for a complete stripper with only an automatic as the sole option. NOBODY orders a 528i like that, except for dealerships ordering cars for their loaner fleet.

Speaking of which (completely OT), my dealer put me in a stripper 335i (almost no options) while my car is in for service. Damn that turbo motor is sweet. N54 FTMFW.



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I thought the 335i pretty much comes with everything as stock. Must be different down your side of the pond.
 
I thought the 335i pretty much comes with everything as stock. Must be different down your side of the pond.

US spec 335s do come standard with a lot of features as standard like Bi-xenons, moonroof, power everything, seat memory, premium sound and so forth.

But I was disappointed this car didn't have the Sports Package (which IMO, should be mandatory on a car like this). Aside from the slightly soft (but comfy) base suspension, the base seats suck big time. The ZSP seats, OTOH are almost as good as the ones in my M Roadster.

Leather is also an option on this car, which still blows my mind. Not because the 335 is the only $38k car that doesn't offer leather standard (it isn't; MB and Audi are the same way), but because BMW doesn't offer their excellent cloth seats in the US, and thus we are stuck with "leatherette" (vinyl) :yuck:.

Still, I can't complain. It's a 335 👍 My previous dealer used run out of loaners all the time and put me in cheap rental cars. Nothing like rolling up in an M3, then rolling out in a Cavalier with warped front rotors... that needed an alignment.. that someone's been smoking in... :indiff:


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He didn't pay ANYTHING down. No cap reduction means higher monthly payments. That deal is also for a complete stripper with only an automatic as the sole option. NOBODY orders a 528i like that, except for dealerships ordering cars for their loaner fleet.

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First off, thank you very much for speaking on my behalf. I completely respect everyone's views on my car. But this is how I wish to spend my money. If I find myself in a financial situation down the line, you all will be free to say, "I told you so" or "I saw this coming". But just understand that this is my decision, and I feel I got a good deal on it. For me, that's all that matters.

2ndly, M, it's not exactly bare. Some of the options I can recall are the Park Distance Control, Cruise Control, Comfort Access, Nav, and maybe 1 or 2 other options. This was just a car sitting on the lot though.
 
A new BMW and only at the age of 20? I don't know you so well, but how can you afford it *McLaren*?
 
A new BMW and only at the age of 20? I don't know you so well, but how can you afford it *McLaren*?
Perhaps a careful reading of this thread might show the word inheritance popping up a time or two. 👍
 
Still can't set radio stations though nor can I figure out how to turn off the voice navigation. :ouch:

That's the worst thing about the I-Drive, she never shuts up. And trying to do so yourself is too much a complex and time-consuming process.
 
i want a bimmer now lol
damn you McLaren :D

It would be a tough decision too... between a 5 series and a 335i coupe.
 
i want a bimmer now lol
damn you McLaren :D

It would be a tough decision too... between a 5 series and a 335i coupe.

Who doesn't? :drool:


I think if I had money for a bimmer, I'd probably try and find something like an older M Coupe, but that's just me. I'd rather have a smaller wheelbase car than something like a 5-series. Although, that new 3-series 2dr coupe looks absolutely beautiful from front and back. 👍
 
That's the worst thing about the I-Drive, she never shuts up. And trying to do so yourself is too much a complex and time-consuming process.

It can get annoying, but it's not complex or time-consuming to turn off. As I've said in the past, iDrive is very easy to use if you read the manual.
 
Who doesn't? :drool:


I think if I had money for a bimmer, I'd probably try and find something like an older M Coupe, but that's just me. I'd rather have a smaller wheelbase car than something like a 5-series. Although, that new 3-series 2dr coupe looks absolutely beautiful from front and back. 👍

I wouldn't mind a 128i TBH. 👍 They look pretty good IMO. I wouldn't mind leatherette either.
 
It can get annoying, but it's not complex or time-consuming to turn off. As I've said in the past, iDrive is very easy to use if you read the manual.

Really? I'll check it tonight then. Bloody salesman was lying then.
 
I could have bought my car brand new but instead decided to buy a couple months old one and save £1,500 in the process. And because it was only a couple months old it still had some of that new car smell whiff.

Buying brand new is a waste of money. I'll only do so when I have money to waste.

Well, one day you'll want a specific car, and you won't be able to find a decent used one in your spec. So what you'll do is engage the manufacturer to build one for you.

And then you wait six weeks for it.

Meh, six weeks is nothing.

And usually pay full list price.

Not true ;) I got 18% off mine, and it was built to order.

I think that you should only really consider buying new if there is a compelling reason why the used stock of that vehicle is not suitable. For me, it was primarily about a new engine in the model range that was ideal for my needs. I found a couple with broadly identical spec but the old engine in them. Other niceities in the new car (such as front parking sensors) were just that.

There should also be an extended timeframe to write the car down in. For me, that is in the region of 7 years, after which I think that daily drivers start to get a little tired, and you're in for some big bills.

Buying new will never be as cheap as buying used, but there is definitely value in buying the perfect car new, being its sole keeper, and then dumping it when it's dying. It's that value which you have to quantify against the purchase price.
 
Decided to finally get around to doing a photo shoot with the 5. Unfortunately, some problems arose. 1, the parking lot I chose used to still have lights despite the Sack N' Save that used to be there had left years ago. Apparently, someone stopped paying the bill. Thus, my camera turned out some grainy pics and turning to flash kind of ruined them. I did also think about exploring the building since someone kicked a hole in the wood that was covering an old vent, but decided against it. And somehow, even though there were no parking lot lights, the back of the building inside was lit up everywhere. :grumpy:
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Seeing as the rest of the shots were no where as good as these (I know :( ), I decided to drive around to find a better shot. Drove behind this local store, and thought the green light might produce something. Wrong. Only 1 good shot.
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Leaving, I noticed the hospital down the road, and went for it. Thankfully, I finally found a perfect spot. However, the limited photos are due to Security driving around watching me & another car.
However, it did give me a chance to see the effects of what happens when you capture just 1 light.

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Anyways, yeah, not too happy. Need to work on my night time photography a lot, but hopefully my new lens will help improve it. But, I will say at least, that I was happy with the last shot the Sack & Save, the hospital, & the one behind a local store. :)

BTW, does anyone mind cropping out the light post to the right of the Sack & Save photo (the one with the moon showing)? Greatly appreciated. :)
 
8what for a 335i? my dad got one for low 600s, and its fully loaded (every option but the cold weather ones) and has a special interior color which is only at dealership order called lemon.

Mom got a 530i for about 550 a month both are leased so maybe your area has less sales so they give them for more to get the required money each month. Heck down here you can get a 4 door M3 with sport pakage for less than 700 if you know who to go to.
 
8what for a 335i? my dad got one for low 600s, and its fully loaded and has a special interior color which is only at dealership order called lemon.
That's a great deal for him, but...that discussion has kind of passed now. :indiff:
 
It is a great car, ive been driving it for a while and I likle it more than the 335, its soft and subtle yet responsive and quick for its size, only about 60 pounds more than the 335, so having me driving vs normal american makes up the diference. Also I find myself speeding a lot going down the highway at 80-100 without knowing beause of how soft and quiet it is, it asks for more. Either way it is a real nice buy and I congratulate you for it.
 
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