No more new content needed until bugs fixed

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hognhominy
You would probably be surprised to learn that I am a 300lb, gun toting, moonshine swilling, redneck from the heart of Dixie who prefers mud filled Audis over pickup trucks or track days, I appreciate the complement, 212 years since the invention of the light bulb and we use technology to watch cat videos and fling poo worldwide.


I have not experienced the pit lag issue first hand, my first thought would be with P2P network. Have you experienced this with a fixed room host?

The audio issues w/Bathurst I have seen first hand, and I can see how they can be severely detrimental to gameplay. One thing I have noticed is while experiencing the issue during practice, exiting the track and watching another car, audio works, back in your own car, no audio.

I don't see PD adding any real features, the only real adds are superfluous content with no real function. The functional issues may explain the delay in real features. If we see community, course maker, livery editors, etc. before these faults are repaired, that would be a mistake on PD's part.

I am pleased to see at least the low hanging fruit (Staggered wheels, GARG, L1R1) being addressed, and it gives me hope that the more major issues are being reworked even if they aren't live yet.
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Yh we tried everything, multiple different hosts, ive tried fixing the connection to my connection as i have a 125mg line, nothing stops it yet, like you say if they add anything too heavy without fixing the exisiting stuff it would be a mistake, time will tell i guess.
 
@CJSpencer77 - Maybe you should change the name of the thread to, "No More New Content Needed UNTIL..." so that people don't get the wrong idea.
 
Different teams will be dealing with the bug fixing, the next gen project and the DLC.

clearly one is not familiarwith developement of games, the same was said for Skyrim,GTA5 and various other games.Games arent just little piddly 40mb games nowadays your talking millions upon millions of lines of code.
 
hognhominy
I think some are missing the disconnect between development and repair, I can not believe the same individuals/departments are responsible for modeling new cars and debugging code.
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This right here will unfortunately be ignored or skimmed over for years to come...
 
The game is not nearly buggy enough to warrant suspending major content updates. and 1.03 fixes a bunch of bugs. what remains isn't game breaking at all.
 


Brakes are fine for me :) Some pedals/wheel might suffer with race brakes, PD only needs to adjust the brakes input parameter.
 
CJSpencer77
lmao, its a deal !
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There is a problem with your plan. The kicking up the butt is usually to get someone who is idle to move. Now, if you hold this person while kicking him up the butt you are severely limiting his ability to move and thus your kicking will not have the desired effect.
 
I dunno, I reran GT500, GT300, GT3 and Dream Car Championship on Saturday at 1.02 with no ABS and no issues for me at all...

The brake balance/force value I use with and without ABS are quite different...
 
Well I would like any issues to be resolved I still find the game very playable and enjoyable.

I would not want them to hold back content and am more interesting in getting the community features up and running, I would also like to see them include a leaderboard system and I would like the data logger ASAP.

Fixing issues is important but so is the additional content. They should do what they can to provide both content and fixes but should not hold one back in favor of the other. They should and will give us content and fixes as they are ready.

Also note that any time you do an update there is always the chance of causing new issues, especially when you have a limited amount of time to test the update before putting it online.
 
Razgriz_2142
Different teams will be dealing with the bug fixing, the next gen project and the DLC.

clearly one is not familiarwith developement of games, the same was said for Skyrim,GTA5 and various other games.Games arent just little piddly 40mb games nowadays your talking millions upon millions of lines of code.
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I Tend to go along with you. for all games that were released in the past 18 months there will be people saying that there are some bugs that exists everywhere, and that because they are feeling in their opinion it's not right , will ask the developper to fix it, and will be adamant to have brand new content added, fearing that it will just add weight to to current issues.
 
I agree that they seem to have an odd priority on what to release. But I still think they should put out things like the seasonals, in all honesty it's not like it's much of an effort to create them; select track, select car, select laptimes and post. They should be able to create so many more, but then again that's what the career mode is as well, it's what the entire game is - you race around a track in a car. So really what I'm missing is something that lets tailor your own races and lets you pick the AI cars, maybe even from your own garage so you race tuned cars.

Ooops, seems like it became a wishlist post, well in that case I'll just throw in that what I wish for the most is that track editor I've been missing for two months now :)
 
I seem to remember most updates in GT5 addressing a pretty hefty list of bugs and glitches. Maybe we all just expected more problems when the PS3 was a new and uncharted realm.

Call me cynical, but it seems like the best way to get these bugs fixed quickly would be to start a misinformation campaign whereby we all claim to exploit these bugs to the tune of millions of credits.
 
It'll be sad if the staggered tire size issue persists for as long as we weren't able to actually change our transmission ratios in GT5. The fact it's been over a month already is problematic.

As ever, I expect the balance to continue to favour quantity (new content) over quality (fixing the problems with existing content). Maybe more cars will be added piece-meal like the M4; just don't expect to be able to use custom rims without sacrificing a few inches worth of rubber on the tires that deliver the power to the pavement, apparently.

I for one would prefer the bug fixes take priority over new content, even if I realize they're likely not connected; we can surely get both at the same time. But frankly, the amount of content in GT6 (and even GT5, for me, years ago) has never been an area I saw as a weak point.
 
SidsCycleShop
I seem to remember most updates in GT5 addressing a pretty hefty list of bugs and glitches. Maybe we all just expected more problems when the PS3 was a new and uncharted realm.

Call me cynical, but it seems like the best way to get these bugs fixed quickly would be to start a misinformation campaign whereby we all claim to exploit these bugs to the tune of millions of credits.
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Yeah they were on that one and fixed it quite fast no? :lol:
 
Devil240Z
The game is not nearly buggy enough to warrant suspending major content updates. and 1.03 fixes a bunch of bugs. what remains isn't game breaking at all.
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Maybe you didn't get the memo that events like the "15 Minute Races" are impossible to complete now thanks to 1.03. So you're wrong about nothing being game breaking.
 
CJSpencer77
A million cars and tracks is worthless if you cant race them properly to start with.

Im not saying i dont want new content, i just want the exisiting content to work first.
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You realize that a lot of the people working on new content would have nothing to do with bug fixing? All hands on deck doesn't necessarily lead to fixing bugs faster.
 
MuoNiuLa
Maybe you didn't get the memo that events like the "15 Minute Races" are impossible to complete now thanks to 1.03. So you're wrong about nothing being game breaking.
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Yeah that is a bit game breaking for those who have not yet completed those races but that is a new issue and will likely be corrected rather quickly
 
If the game was a single player, with no online leagues then i would agree that adding content as well as fixing bugs could/should be done simultaneously, but the reality is that most serious GT6ers are looking for, and competing in leagues that require the system to be as robust and glitch free as possible.

Fixing any tire / pit glitches, sound glitches and screen jumping glitches should be done as a matter of priority so the majority of leagues run as smoothly as possible. They did after all make the game for this purpose.

I have to say, i just shook my head and laughed when a patch that "fixed minor glitches" created a glitch in the download of said patch. Patience is a virtue they say, but god its frustrating ! After 4 resets and some swearing, followed by a little bit of concern, i finally got my update, but was bed time so didnt get time to actually play !
 
Morphisor
I have been driving without ABS the entire time, there is NO problem with ABS! The only weird 'issue' is that the default balance is much stronger on some cars thanothers
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Try the f40 without abs, standard brakes at 0 and it locks up at 50% pedal travel.

As the OP said it was fine before 1.02. Sure some cars are drive-able but pre-1.02 you could modulate the pedal far better and overall brake feel was significantly better.

So abs 0 still needs to be fixed.
 
stucar17
If the game was a single player, with no online leagues then i would agree that adding content as well as fixing bugs could/should be done simultaneously, but the reality is that most serious GT6ers are looking for, and competing in leagues that require the system to be as robust and glitch free as possible.
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For which we need new content specifically the community and club features. So they still need to add content and fix bugs at the same time in this case as well.

Fixing any tire / pit glitches, sound glitches and screen jumping glitches should be done as a matter of priority so the majority of leagues run as smoothly as possible. They did after all make the game for this purpose.
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I totally agree but these are likely being done by different people than those who would be responsible for adding content so there is no reason not to do both.
 
I agree but PD got their money, so they probably don't care until they make us believe that GT7 is what GT6 should have been. Endless cycle.
 
HBR-Roadhog
For which we need new content specifically the community and club features. So they still need to add content and fix bugs at the same time in this case as well.

I totally agree but these are likely being done by different people than those who would be responsible for adding content so there is no reason not to do both.
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So long as it all works !!!! its even more frustrating when they fix one thing with a patch and it breaks something else.....after downloading any patch for GT, i always cringe the first few times i play waiting for something to be broken. To say i am worried about the community features and track maker is an understatement !
 

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