No qualifying in GT4?
- Thread starter adramire
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That's one of the (few) things I'm disappointed about in GT4. I used qualifying, especially in the Endurance events, to measure my performance against the AI cars. I knew that if I was 2 sec. off the pace, I needed to go back and add a bit more to my car. More commonly, when I was several seconds faster than the rest of the grid, I would change the setup or put on harder tires to slow myself and make it more of an interesting race. The two endurance races I have done (Grand Valley and Tokyo R246) have been rather boring because I have been so much faster than the AI in comparable JGTC cars. The only thing that makes them interesting is going as fast as I can for the entire race and not making mistakes. They really need to bring back practice/qualifying for all races in GT5.
Yeah, same here.Chroty
Rolling starts are the worst, but I still have some problems even with races from a stop. I'm trying to beat the Clubman cup with my RX-8 (racing chip, spoiler and nitrous) and I can only get 2nd or 3rd usually losing to an MR2. If I started first i'd probably be able to beat it.
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That's why I always do the first stint of a long race in a-spec mode. You need such a better car in order to finish 1st in b-spec that you can drive until the first pit stop, make sure your car is in the lead, and then let your co-driver take over.
Minnesota01R6
B-Spec is gay and they made it gay so you couldn't just let the computer do all the work... why is it gay? Well it only pits when your tires are totally worn out to the point where the comp can't even controls the car. They did that on purpose you know. You still will have to rely on your A-Spec skillage. woOt.
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- Axidwulv
My B-Spec driver ("Jim") pits on yellow tires. That's not too bad.. I usually drive until dark orange. Though, Jim can't seem to keep a lead once i get it in an endurance unless the car has a serious advantage over the rest of the field... But it makes for a close endurance race, a constant fight for first. I drive until the first pit, then he takes over, falls to second (sometimes at an alarming rate), and then he pits, and i take over, race for first and get ahead, then pit again... Repeat until race ends. If theres an odd number of pit-stops in the race, and Jim would be driving to the finish if i were to pit and switch to b-spec, i just stay in a-spec because i know Jim will ultimately falter and lose. That would be a waste of an endurance.
On a side note, i let Jim do the 24hr Nurb endurance in the toyota 88CV.. It took 281 laps, and the whole field was about 28 laps below. I put 2800 miles on that car in that one race.
As for qualifying, thank you for the heads up! I was wondering what "Practice" was there for...
On a side note, i let Jim do the 24hr Nurb endurance in the toyota 88CV.. It took 281 laps, and the whole field was about 28 laps below. I put 2800 miles on that car in that one race.
As for qualifying, thank you for the heads up! I was wondering what "Practice" was there for...
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You can let the computer do all the work if you wanted to (with the exception of special condition and license tests). You just need a vastly superior car (although even in the F1 races you can B-spec 99% of it in an exactly identical car).
You can also use fuel load as a way to increase lap times and make your driver pit in when you want him to. Figure out how many gallons per lap you are getting, decide how many laps you want your b-spec to go before pitting, and give him enough fuel to go that many laps plus 1 or 2 gallons more for safety. Example: he pits in after 8 laps. When the pit crew starts fueling his car, you notice he has 55 gallons left in his tank. You then know he used 25 gallons from the 80 gallon tank (probably liters, but you get the point) 25/8=3.125. You want him to go 7 laps because the 8th lap he is on red tires. 7*3.125=21.xxx. Give him 23 gallons and he will pit in after 7 laps. You get lower lap times because he is running with less weight in his car, and he pits in when you want him to. The only hitch is that you have to be there for the refueling every time.
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You can also use fuel load as a way to increase lap times and make your driver pit in when you want him to. Figure out how many gallons per lap you are getting, decide how many laps you want your b-spec to go before pitting, and give him enough fuel to go that many laps plus 1 or 2 gallons more for safety. Example: he pits in after 8 laps. When the pit crew starts fueling his car, you notice he has 55 gallons left in his tank. You then know he used 25 gallons from the 80 gallon tank (probably liters, but you get the point) 25/8=3.125. You want him to go 7 laps because the 8th lap he is on red tires. 7*3.125=21.xxx. Give him 23 gallons and he will pit in after 7 laps. You get lower lap times because he is running with less weight in his car, and he pits in when you want him to. The only hitch is that you have to be there for the refueling every time.
EDIT: mathematical mistakes
I wanted to use practice mode to monitor how my tires are wearing. Then I can go back and change my car's balance to make the tires wear evenly, therefore giving my car better balance. Doing it the way the game is set up is like going into a race blind. Or am I missing something? Is there a way to practice somewhere to monitor tire wear before a race?
Yea I'm not that big of a fan forb-spec mode. I also hate that pd has left out qualifing like M_Grip and Chroty said I also used it to tune my car and also learn the tracks even in this game using the qualifying option would help tou alot since there are around 100 tracks in this game.
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I never used qualifying after I got a good enough car.
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- JMarine25
Maybe qualifying for every race was taken out to make GT4 harder than it already is. It almost seems like you're TEMPTED to run the entire series, even if you want the best shot at winning. If you're racing something like "1000 Miles!," "GT World Championship," or whatever, you'll need to qualify because in the tough races, you need everything you can get to win.
In some ways, it's a shame that there's no qualifying. A race can still be winnable with the traditional "last to first" victory. If Jeff Gordon could win a race today after being three laps down, it's still possible to win even if your last-to-first trudge to victory. So keep trying.
In some ways, it's a shame that there's no qualifying. A race can still be winnable with the traditional "last to first" victory. If Jeff Gordon could win a race today after being three laps down, it's still possible to win even if your last-to-first trudge to victory. So keep trying.
its even worse when you qualify in order to get a good position for your b-spec driver, and then he totally blows the start and cant ever recover. for long races, pretty much only enduro, you can usually use a near-comparable car (albeit slightly faster or tuned) and super-hard tires and come out on top, as you should hopefully be pitting in much longer intervals than the competition- this wont actually set the fastest laps, but they will be very consistant. also try to match your tire wear-i used the toyota minolta whatever for..i think the le sarthe 1, and used hard in front and sh in back- chopped off a second or two by doing that
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Agree with Ving. PD seems to want you to tune your cars. The worst race so far was the suzuki concepts race. I could´nt win that unless I tuned my car a bit. Oh, and the Clio trophy was unbeatable without tuning too. Maybe they left out qually to make you tune everything...
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