No Restrictions = No Challenge = No fun?

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Madjack9
This is just in response to all of the people that complain about the lifting of restrictions on the seasonal events. Restrictions and challenge are what you make them. If you want a challenge, impose some restrictions on yourself. Run sport tires or don't tune the care all the way up. PD does an excellent job of allowing up to challenge ourselves if we want. Free will is a wonderful thing. PD isn't making us run fully tuned cars. Just my 2 cents.
 
Challenging yourself is not the same as beating someone else's challenge. There's still plenty of glory/money to be had getting silvers or bronzes but can we not keep the golds as something special? Why does everything in every game these days have to be easily achievable by everyone? And what exactly does it mean to get that gold trophy? With no restrictions it doesn't mean anything.
 
I prefer the races unrestricted too but I would like one or two restricted ones out of the five. A couple to play with on my own, and one or two tough challenges.

I expect we will see more restricted races. this thing is just getting started. :)
 
Dave_Panic
Challenging yourself is not the same as beating someone else's challenge. There's still plenty of glory/money to be had getting silvers or bronzes but can we not keep the golds as something special? Why does everything in every game these days have to be easily achievable by everyone? And what exactly does it mean to get that gold trophy? With no restrictions it doesn't mean anything.
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Why do you care if I use sports softs to win a challenge that you can do stock? How does what I do affect you in any way? I've never seen any reasonable answer to these questions.
 
I enjoy being able to do as I please for the seasonal events. You want a really tough challenge? Do the time trials. That's what they're there for, to challenge yourself against the times of others.
 
Ritterkreuz
I enjoy being able to do as I please for the seasonal events. You want a really tough challenge? Do the time trials. That's what they're there for, to challenge yourself against the times of others.
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So...basically the whole game structure for the past 4 GT games was messed up and now they finally nailed it?
 
The first 2 events were fun as they were hard and with restrictions. I liked trying, coming here for tunes and tips and trying again to finally win. However, some were almost impossible or not fun (The Fiat 500 comes to mind..)
 
I don't like to run fully tuned cars because I'm cheap and want to conserve my credits and pull in the most net winnings possible.
 
Totally agreed. To each his own. And all these people in here claiming how easy these challenges are and that they passed the leader on the first lap and won by 1000 seconds and did it all stock on hard tires.....right.

Even with some careful tuning, a lot of these challenges are pretty tough.

The Ford GT in Trial Mountain comes to mind. This is a real challenge. No way anyone is passing the leader by the finish if you keep the GT stock. No way. I'm not a great driver in GT5 by any means, but even after learning the track and getting the hang of the car, there isn't any way that I'm going to overtake a 580-hp supercar with a ~25 second lead in 5 laps in my 530-hp Ford GT. I don't know, maybe it's possible, but it seems like a longshot.

It seems, at least for this race, that tuning is not just an option, but necessary to win.
 
smearz
Totally agreed. To each his own. And all these people in here claiming how easy these challenges are and that they passed the leader on the first lap and won by 1000 seconds and did it all stock on hard tires.....right.

Even with some careful tuning, a lot of these challenges are pretty tough.

The Ford GT in Trial Mountain comes to mind. This is a real challenge. No way anyone is passing the leader by the finish if you keep the GT stock. No way. I'm not a great driver in GT5 by any means, but even after learning the track and getting the hang of the car, there isn't any way that I'm going to overtake a 580-hp supercar with a ~25 second lead in 5 laps in my 530-hp Ford GT. I don't know, maybe it's possible, but it seems like a longshot.

It seems, at least for this race, that tuning is not just an option, but necessary to win.
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You're not saying anyone would exaggerate their accomplishments to increase their e-cred on an internet message board are you? :confused: I think that's going a bit too far.
 
Dave_Panic
Challenging yourself is not the same as beating someone else's challenge. There's still plenty of glory/money to be had getting silvers or bronzes but can we not keep the golds as something special? Why does everything in every game these days have to be easily achievable by everyone? And what exactly does it mean to get that gold trophy? With no restrictions it doesn't mean anything.
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It doesn't mean anything? Like my one is bigger than yours? It's just not of anyones business what others do or don't do... Look for yourself and play it like you want to! With or without restricting yourself but just don't giva a s*** what the rest is diong... Everyone deserves the XP boost from the seasonal events event players with not that good skills, because otherwise they have to grind indy forever and if you have a life out of GT5 it's not possible to level up...
 
buziii
You're not saying anyone would exaggerate their accomplishments to increase their e-cred on an internet message board are you? :confused: I think that's going a bit too far.
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Haha, what was I thinking?
 
For the small percentage of people that complain about them being easy there are a whole lot more that are happy they can actually do them now.

With the stupid XP system I am happy these are easy.
 
The topic really has been discussed to death so all I'll say on it is if the challenge can be done, even just barely in the car in complete stock form, not even tyres then I'm happy for them to leave it open, I'll just stick to using my unmodified cars. But if it needs any tuning what so ever, then it's not a challenge because you can't help but upgrade until you can gold it and you never know if what you did was really a well weighted challenge.
 
Someone suggested to just put an "instant money transfer" button there so you wouldn't have to put up with the stupid driving. Seems to be what people want...
 
Who says u have to tweak cars to max? u can tweak how much or little u want depending how much challenge u want, i think its good having unrestricted.
 
Verbal
Someone suggested to just put an "instant money transfer" button there so you wouldn't have to put up with the stupid driving. Seems to be what people want...
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LOL! Worst thing - Think of the amount of people who would ACTUALLY use this!
 
Make it your own challenge with only the tuned parts you need to barely win for your skill level! Remember, not every one is an arm chair Sebastian Vettel! Some people need a tiny bit of help to get a close win! I know! I'm getting older, and do not have a wheel! I do not have the reaction time I once had to hit the buttons on the exact braking point or apex that you need to get gold!

Thanks for the help PD, with giving no restrictions! You guys hit the nail on the head!
 
I'd say that the easiest way to maintain some sort of challenge is to drive the race with stock tyres , upgrading the tyres takes a lot away from the challenge . I still believe that PD have done the right thing by allowing players to determine their own difficulty level. 👍
 
slotcarrod
Make it your own challenge with only the tuned parts you need to barely win for your skill level! Remember, not every one is an arm chair Sebastian Vettel! Some people need a tiny bit of help to get a close win! I know! I'm getting older, and do not have a wheel! I do not have the reaction time I once had to hit the buttons on the exact braking point or apex that you need to get gold!

Thanks for the help PD, with giving no restrictions! You guys hit the nail on the head!
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Well if you know this then why do you need a Gold Cup pat on the head, well done for trying? What's wrong with only being able to earn a bronze?
 
BigYoSpeck
Well if you know this then why do you need a Gold Cup pat on the head, well done for trying? What's wrong with only being able to earn a bronze?
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Why should only the elite be rewarded the best stuff when I paid just as much money for the game as them? If you make stuff to hard you'll turn off the average gamer, and the average gamer represents the majority of a game's sales.
 
My issue is the AI. If the AI actually raced hard and would fight against each other then I wouldn't mind racing stock for stock. The issue is that the AI just drives. Because of that, the leader takes off, will make zero mistakes, doesnt have to worry about the car behind him catching him because he wont try too, makes it near impossible to catch. I need a bit of an advantage to keep it fun.
 
smearz
Even with some careful tuning, a lot of these challenges are pretty tough.

The Ford GT in Trial Mountain comes to mind. This is a real challenge. No way anyone is passing the leader by the finish if you keep the GT stock. No way. I'm not a great driver in GT5 by any means, but even after learning the track and getting the hang of the car, there isn't any way that I'm going to overtake a 580-hp supercar with a ~25 second lead in 5 laps in my 530-hp Ford GT. I don't know, maybe it's possible, but it seems like a longshot.

It seems, at least for this race, that tuning is not just an option, but necessary to win.
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I'm in agreement with you. I wish they still had the restrictions in place. Regardless, I try to beat these challenges with as little modification to the cars as possible. For the above mentioned Trial Mountain challenge I gave my Ford GT soft sport tires and an oil change and won on the second try (no driver aids save ABS 1). This was with a DS3 btw (don't own a wheel yet :( )
 
I liked the restrictions, cus it made me feel cool if i could gold the races on my 1st try :p Now, its a waste of time to not do something to the car to guarantee an easy victory. but i guess you could look at gaming in general as a waste of time.
 
Ritterkreuz
Why should only the elite be rewarded the best stuff when I paid just as much money for the game as them? If you make stuff to hard you'll turn off the average gamer, and the average gamer represents the majority of a game's sales.
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Well like some one else said they could have a click here for free cr and exp for all the racing relevance they've turned the events into.

Just to be clear I'm not of the elite at this game, but I'd sooner take a challenge and come up short than take part in a glorified check list simulator.
 
smearz
The Ford GT in Trial Mountain comes to mind. This is a real challenge. No way anyone is passing the leader by the finish if you keep the GT stock. No way. I'm not a great driver in GT5 by any means, but even after learning the track and getting the hang of the car, there isn't any way that I'm going to overtake a 580-hp supercar with a ~25 second lead in 5 laps in my 530-hp Ford GT. I don't know, maybe it's possible, but it seems like a longshot.

It seems, at least for this race, that tuning is not just an option, but necessary to win.
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Its most assuredly doable with Stock HP, sport mediums and no other upgrades.

Your letting the intentional psych aspect of the race get to you.
Practice and you can certainly do it.
Actually I found it a fun race and a good exercise in throttle control.


The purpose is to challenge and improve your driving ability.
Whether your good, bad or indifferent, doing that kind of race will improve your driving skills.
 
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