NOS effects?

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godzilla_GTR
proly select for nos.Why doesn't everyone dis elenor of gone in 60 seconds?she uses nos?!Any way wots up with all this ricers use nos s**t!Ricers don't use nos.do u even knoe what a ricer is?!ricers are people who don't do anything to cars accept add bodykits,neons and other cosmetic enhancers like that but they don't do ANYTHING to the engine so how can they have nos?nos ads anywere from 50-200hp+.
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Sorry, but I find it very hard to understand what you've written. Could you please take a bit more time and write properly? It makes it so much easier to read, and gets a lot more respect from the people reading it.

Not having a go at you, just making a request.
Thanks.
 
I think of ricers as people who want to be good at cars but don't want to invest the time or money to figure out what there car really needs. They take the easy route, thinking that neons and outragous body kits will make there car bad. They throw on nitrous but don't do any real indepth tuning or modification. There are non rice civics. I respect the fact that nitrous is used in perfectly good cars, but that doesn't make me like it.
 
basicly if ur ride is more pimped out than a bently or a BMW, but runs slower than those cars, ur car is rice. 👍 On that show pimp my ride, they rice out a few cars.... Its still cool when they restored a few classic cars.. but i thought what they did to the Civic was not cool, lol.. and then the chick who owned the car said "this is gonna be just like Fast and FUrious!!!!" :yuck:
 
godzilla_GTR
it will probably be select for nos. Why doesn't everyone dislike elenor from the movie gone in 60 seconds?she uses nos when running from the police chopper?!Anyway whats up with all this ricers use nos s**t!Ricers don't use nos.do you even know what a ricer is?!ricers are people who don't do anything to cars accept add bodykits,neons and other cosmetic enhancers like that but they don't do ANYTHING to the engine so how can they have nos?nos ads anywere from 50-200hp+ which is what i would class as a peformance modification.

Sorry avenger i am tired and have stayed up for the last 3 days/nights without any sleep and it is now 11:10pm
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I don't think anybody would ever dis Eleanor. There is no way she would ever be rice. She just wasn't built that way to start with. I mean, to start with, a 427ci monster in a sweet looking fastback.
Mr. Shelby's loving touch is just a bonus.
As for her using Nitrous... giggle giggle giggle. That's as bad as sticking twin superchargers on one!
 
for some people going fast is all that matters. 👍 We may all not feel that way... but heck... as long as they dont think the fast and furious was a great movie they are cool with me.
 
avenger
That's as bad as sticking twin superchargers on one!
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No they are different bads. Twin supercharged eleanor is badd(large emphasis) where as nitrous ricers is bad(no real emphasis). The emphasis helps distinguish between these two, One meaning evil the other meaning dumb, or done wrong.
 
xcsti
No they are different bads. Twin supercharged eleanor is badd(large emphasis) where as nitrous ricers is bad(no real emphasis). The emphasis helps distinguish between these two, One meaning evil the other meaning dumb, or done wrong.
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Huh? I was comparing Nitrous on Eleanor to twin superchargers on Eleanor.
Both are badd. Both are very, very badd. :sly:

As for Nitrous on a ricer, if you can find one that hasn't had its un-modded engine fragged, then it will be very, very bad. :crazy:

Did I get it right? :dunce:
 
I think it's a welcome an legitimate addition to the tuning options.
Someone mentioned a couple of pages ago that formula palmer cars use nitrous. Actually I think they just have an overboost option which increased the turbo boost (they use the audi turbo engine) and fueling for a few seconds to allow overtaking on straights. It's a cool idea but not that commonly used.

I'm building a car called a Locost from scratch (basically a Lotus 7 clone you build yourself - not a kit!) with a 215ci V8 and LSD but the daddy of the UK Locost scene has a 420bhp cosworth YB engine in his. It did at one point have a 200 shot of nitrous installed but he got rid of it because it was a tad excessive for trackdays and the rallys he does. Still, with 600bhp in such a light car nothing could touch him :D


That reminds me, I'd love it if GT4 had the Westfield SEight or the new 2l V8 powered caterham.
 
avenger
Huh? I was comparing Nitrous on Eleanor to twin superchargers on Eleanor.
Both are badd. Both are very, very badd. :sly:

As for Nitrous on a ricer, if you can find one that hasn't had its un-modded engine fragged, then it will be very, very bad. :crazy:

Did I get it right? :dunce:
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I don't know waht I was trying to do. I had just woken up at that point. I guess I was saying that nitrous on eleanor seems wrong where the twin superchargers is evil in a good way.
 
mackie
the daddy of the UK Locost scene has a 420bhp cosworth YB engine in his. It did at one point have a 200 shot of nitrous installed but he got rid of it because it was a tad excessive for trackdays and the rallys he does. Still, with 600bhp in such a light car nothing could touch him :D
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That coms close, or even go beyond the 1/1 power to weight ratio. :dunce:
 
we wouldnt mind that either mdnite , but because the rather old ps2 is being pushed to its limits its best not incorporate backfires and missfires because it mite cause performance 'slowdowns'
 
I wouldn't mind NOS being incorporated into GT4, but I think it should be only available in drag racing. Also, unless having all the real scenarios that go along with nitrous as far as increased wear on stock internals, what RPM the NOS kicks in at (WOT or mid RRM, etc), traction loss when an extra 150 hp kicks in, etc etc. Basically, I'd like to see all the tuning available that would happen in real life NOS install. It would be a shame if NOS is represented but it just like buying a muffler or something, an add on that adds a certain percent power to any car like a bolt on mod. I have 75 shot on my 95 Pontiac Firebird, bang for the buck, nothing adds more power, but there is a LOT of tuning and maintenance needed to make it safe and smooth. Just my .02.
 
enos79
I wouldn't mind NOS being incorporated into GT4, but I think it should be only available in drag racing. Also, unless having all the real scenarios that go along with nitrous as far as increased wear on stock internals, what RPM the NOS kicks in at (WOT or mid RRM, etc), traction loss when an extra 150 hp kicks in, etc etc. Basically, I'd like to see all the tuning available that would happen in real life NOS install. It would be a shame if NOS is represented but it just like buying a muffler or something, an add on that adds a certain percent power to any car like a bolt on mod. I have 75 shot on my 95 Pontiac Firebird, bang for the buck, nothing adds more power, but there is a LOT of tuning and maintenance needed to make it safe and smooth. Just my .02.
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I mentioned this exact same thing when nitrous came up on another thread. The TUNING and proper USE of this modification is not as simple as people may think. You can't just "hit the button" on a large shot (without being properly set up) and expect to end up anywhere except in a ditch somewhere!

It's nice to see someone else who has a realistic grasp on how nitrous actually works. I posted a lot of information on nitrous in the automotive forums about this, but apparently the knowledge didn't trickle down to this side.

Out of curiousity, how many of you people who have posted in this thread, have ever actually USED nitrous on their cars? I see that enos79 has. I have used it on my old 1988 Mustang. What about you others? Don't form arguments or opinions on what you've seen in movies alone.




On a side note:

avenger
Not only could you buy different sized canisters, but also different systems. For example, you could buy a cheaper 50hp system or an uber expensive 200hp kit etc.
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The amount of HP gained from nitrous use is controlled by different size nozzles, or "pills". It's simply a matter of swapping them out, if you want more. You can get a bag of nozzles for less than the price of a hamburger. :sly:


It's what you have to do to make your motor able to handle the extra power, that costs $$. :D
 
Thats whats so addicting about NOS. You start off saying "I'll just go with 50 or 75 shot", but then you realize for a few bucks, you just change the nozzle jets and bam, 100, 150, 200 shot. Thats all good if you have a backup hi pressure fuel pump, larger injectors, better pistons, crank, etc etc. Thats what costs the big bucks as Lethalchem noted. Most people I know who have damaged their motors started like that. 50 shot EFI dry system on any car in good running order shouldnt be a problem. But above that, your fuel system better be able to keep up, you engine better be able to handle the extra heat and energy, and depending on how its applied, your driveline has got to be able to handle the instant onslaught of a ton of power. BUT....if you have all this, NOS is a whole hell of a lot of fun!!!

Thanks for the view Lethalchem.
 
enos79
I have 75 shot on my 95 Pontiac Firebird, bang for the buck, nothing adds more power, but there is a LOT of tuning and maintenance needed to make it safe and smooth. Just my .02.
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I think you sould have left that part out. You probably lost respect for actually admitting you drive that P.O.S. trying to make that slow V8 (yours is probably a 6) run fast by adding NOS lost you some points too. Sorry Chump.

NOS IS A CHEAP MANS TURBO.
 
Cagedheat
I think you sould have left that part out. You probably lost respect for actually admitting you drive that P.O.S. trying to make that slow V8 (yours is probably a 6) run fast by adding NOS lost you some points too. Sorry Chump.

NOS IS A CHEAP MANS TURBO.
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Thank you for exemplifying the idiocy I was referring to in my above post. 👍
 
what is wrong w/ people in this forum. omg. All these insults based on ignorance and prefreneces.
 
Lethalchem
Thank you for exemplifying the idiocy I was referring to in my above post. 👍
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Your a fool. You have no idea what i have used. I have used NOS (NOS and Venom), i have installed it, i have raced with it, i have raced guys that had it and thought they were the s.hit. but its really not what the "Movies" crack it up to be.

I'd be willing to bet that as soon as you saw "The Fast and the Furious" you went out and bought your first wet injection kit for your crappy "boat on wheels" (your mustang) and were ready to kill all thoes Civics and Integras that were kicking your ass on the streets. but come to find out, you still loose, cuz your car really isnt set up to truely handle NOS. So all your dreams of instant respect with the touch of a button were dashed.

Get real man, Turbo/Supercharger is the only way to go.
 
Cagedheat
I think you sould have left that part out. You probably lost respect for actually admitting you drive that P.O.S. trying to make that slow V8 (yours is probably a 6) run fast by adding NOS lost you some points too. Sorry Chump.

NOS IS A CHEAP MANS TURBO.
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LOL

Thanks for the well thought out intelligent response! For the record, I never said my car was that fast. I'm so broken up, I lost points with someone who obviously knows very little about cars. By the way, what is your definition of 'fast' then anyway? My car goes 0-60 faster than it takes you to ask your mom to pick you up in her minivan.
 
enos79
My car goes 0-60 faster than it takes you to ask your mom to pick you up in her minivan.
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i am speechless... let me get this right. Zero to Sixty.... faster than....

Please dont respond unless you have somethig intelligent to say.
 
Get real man, Turbo/Supercharger is the only way to go.
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Power adders are power adders no matter how you cut it. You obviously have a bias towards nitrous. Every person is different and everyone that works on their cars are different. Some prefer turbos, superchargers, or nitrous. And some even use a couple of them in conjuction.

Your statements are completely not thought out and very biased. You say turbos/superchargers are the only way to, well, thats your opinion. Im not a fan of nitrous, but you dont see me bashing people for using it. Different strokes for different folks.

Please be more open-minded and not bashing someone for such a minor thing.
James-
 
When Caged Heat is done acting like a 2 yr old, maybe we can return to the discussion of NOS in GT4.

Never fails, gotta have at least one person in each thread that adds nothing but insults to everyones posts. God forbid they actually try and add something to the topic of the thread.
 
I agree, one of my favorite things about GT is the real sim nature of it instead of arcade style. In my opinion, the addition of a drag race feature is a bit more arcade and being such it would be the only place I'd want to see nitrous used if at all.
 

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