NSX-R killing TVRs(best motoring)

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Originally posted by Hero1
you're an idiot! first of all Ford only have the majority shares in those companies not own them, and Ford won't buy Honda and Toyota, because Toyota is already the second largest automaker after GM. Ford is just gonna be going down
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Fortunately, GM does NOT own Toyota. They have shares in the company and can offer ideas, as well as purchase design plans from them, but they definitely do not own them. I'll see if I can't dig up the number of shares they own. It's less then 40% if my memory serves me correct.
 
if my memory serves me right, they own 0%, Toyota and Honda are the last of the major automakers with complete independence ,except for toyota's share in Dahatsu

Originally posted by toyomatt84
Fortunately, GM does NOT own Toyota. They have shares in the company and can offer ideas, as well as purchase design plans from them, but they definitely do not own them. I'll see if I can't dig up the number of shares they own. It's less then 40% if my memory serves me correct.
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Originally posted by BMW POWER
do you even know what your talking about? the Tamora is the smallest TVR and is no match for the Cerbera on the straights, i have driven the Tamora and currently own a Cerbera 4.5. i also said that i expected the NSX to win.
read the post before you speak utter crap :rolleyes:
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Wow man, you own a Cerbera!!!??? What colour is it, better yet, could you post a pic? Anyways, what did happen to the Tamora. And I'm pretty sure the Tamora is faster than the Speed six. Doesn't it use the same motor but on a smaller lighter chassis? That Cerbera looked a bit too big for that track, and how did the NSX-R out accelerate the Cebera and Speed Six on the straights?
 
Originally posted by rollazn
Renault owns 36.8 in Nissan Motor and 22.5% in Nissan Diesel. Guess both of use is wrong? :D :banghead:
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Renault used to own 36.8% but increased that to 44.4% on the 1st March 2002.

- reinforce the mutual interests of both partners: it's the aim of the cross-shareholdings, which mean that each company profits from the performance of the other. Renault raised its stake in Nissan from 36.8% to 44.4% on March 1, 2002. On May 28, 2002 Nissan finalized its acquisition of a holding in Renault, taking its stake to 15% - without voting rights.
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The above quote is taken from here. The official Renault site.
 
Originally posted by daan
Renault used to own 36.8% but increased that to 44.4% on the 1st March 2002.



The above quote is taken from here. The official Renault site.
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Thanks for informing me, and telling me in a calm matter not like other people with their additude. So Nissan owns renault 15%... interesting.
 
:D damn, right again. I hate it when that happens! :D

Anyway, back on topic. The NSX is more suited to a circuit with it's MR layout. Gimme a TVR anyday.

And also, how many laps have those drivers done in an NSX? And how many in TVR's?
 
Originally posted by daan
:D damn, right again. I hate it when that happens! :D

Anyway, back on topic. The NSX is more suited to a circuit with it's MR layout. Gimme a TVR anyday.

And also, how many laps have those drivers done in an NSX? And how many in TVR's?
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No doubt, that the they are more well known to the NSX then TVR. They are custom to the NSX. Everyone have driven the NSX in Best Motoring so its an advantage.
 
Originally posted by Hero1
what? first of all both the NSX and GTR are in the GT500 class. and there was a 287 hp limit gentelmen agreement between every auto maker. but now it's gone.
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Hrm. Were the ever in the GT300? I also read that stock Skylines have been dynoed up to 320hp. Sport Compact Car also said something about the Evolution being underated.
 
Originally posted by 240drift
Wow man, you own a Cerbera!!!??? What colour is it, better yet, could you post a pic? Anyways, what did happen to the Tamora. And I'm pretty sure the Tamora is faster than the Speed six. Doesn't it use the same motor but on a smaller lighter chassis? That Cerbera looked a bit too big for that track, and how did the NSX-R out accelerate the Cebera and Speed Six on the straights?
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thank you someone actually understands what i'm saying about the race :D ageed the NSX would beat them round a track but not on the straights, and the Tamora probarly is faster than the Speed 6. i still dont get how the NSX was out accelerating the Cerbera on the straights :odd:
 
NSX was in GT300 and GT500 so... the one in GT300 is mildly tuned and the one in GT500 is heavily tuned.

No idea why the NSX-R out accelerate the TVR's but the NSX-R shifting was smoother and it was gansan behind the wheel he was teh same person who drove it at nurbugring track. Im still clueless also. Im sure the TVR's are faster in straights
 
Originally posted by rollazn
NSX was in GT300 and GT500 so... the one in GT300 is mildly tuned and the one in GT500 is heavily tuned.

No idea why the NSX-R out accelerate the TVR's but the NSX-R shifting was smoother and it was gansan behind the wheel he was teh same person who drove it at nurbugring track. Im still clueless also. Im sure the TVR's are faster in straights
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ok i'm not to sure of the straight line performance figures of the NSX but the Tamora and Speed 6 hit 60 in 4.5 seconds and go on to 175mph, i'm almost certain the NSX is not as quick as this (maybe it is, if so tell me so) and the Cerbera which is the same 4.5 model as i have hits 60 in 3.9 seconds and tops out at 190mph+
so once again i'm at a loss of why they were being out accelerated :odd:
 
Originally posted by BMW POWER
ok i'm not to sure of the straight line performance figures of the NSX but the Tamora and Speed 6 hit 60 in 4.5 seconds and go on to 175mph, i'm almost certain the NSX is not as quick as this (maybe it is, if so tell me so) and the Cerbera which is the same 4.5 model as i have hits 60 in 3.9 seconds and tops out at 190mph+
so once again i'm at a loss of why they were being out accelerated :odd:
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Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 Acura NSX
Obtained from C&D August, 1998
0-60: 4.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 12.9
1/4 Speed: 110

Thats an 1998 Acura NSX which is the USA model. The NSX-R runs mostly around 12.7-12.8s. The 0-60 is around 4.4-4.5 also, and The NSX is known for great MPH. I have heard it being around 170+ due to its great gearing and aerodynamics which is what top speed really depends on. So the NSX-R could have out accelerated the Speed 6 and Tamora but the Cerbera which do 3.9 s i dont know about that. The NSX-R is a VERY FAST CAR. the 0-60 is about hte same as the Speed 6.

Do you know the 1/4 of the Speed 6 (400hp one that is not the one in the video).
 
Tuscan *the one in the video.. slower than a the Tuscan S which has 400bhp just like the speed 6*

Specification
Engine: 6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3605 cc

Max Power:
350 bhp @ 7200 rpm

Max torque:
290 ft.lbs @ 5500 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
4.2 secs

0 to 100 mph:
9.6 secs

Maximum:
180 mph

Tuscan S *Speed 6*
Specification
Engine:
6-cylinder inline alloy engine with 4 valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication.

Capacity:
3996 cc

Max Power:
400 bhp @ 7000 rpm

Max torque:
310 ft.lbs @ 5250 rpm

0 to 60 mph:
3.6 secs

0 to 100 mph:
8.0 secs

Maximum:
165 mph

The NSX pulls around the same as the TVR in the video with 350 but if it was the Tuscan S it would have destory the NSX-R at acceleration. All of the Tuscan have around the same 0-60 as far as TVR offical site is concern all around hte low to mid 4 area just like the NSX-R plus the advantage of the NSX-R beinging cars they driven before give it an advantage. Does TVR pedal look different, i dont see them TVR driver trying the best at least if pedal are concern. They look different probably not use to it or something... :lol:
 
beat me to posting the stats :lol: there was a video knocking around of a supercar shootout, 1 mile race invloving

Caterham 7
Dodge Viper GTS
Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Lotus Esprit V8 Twin Turbo
Porsche 911 Turbo
TVR Cerbera 4.5 :D

and the TVR wiped the floor with them, i'm not being funny or anything but i dont think that in a straight line race it would have to much trouble with the NSX
 
wait you actually drove the car to 3.9 sec 0-60 and went up to 190 mph?? anyway the NSX-R 0-60 is in the low 4's and maybe even high 3's, and the top speed is 175 mph

Originally posted by BMW POWER
ok i'm not to sure of the straight line performance figures of the NSX but the Tamora and Speed 6 hit 60 in 4.5 seconds and go on to 175mph, i'm almost certain the NSX is not as quick as this (maybe it is, if so tell me so) and the Cerbera which is the same 4.5 model as i have hits 60 in 3.9 seconds and tops out at 190mph+
so once again i'm at a loss of why they were being out accelerated :odd:
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lets try something....

bleh with the nsx-r, my car would blow it away with me driving around the very same track. I cant see how the TVRs were beaten by such a car. it sucks. :rolleyes:

Cano
 
WOW!

Originally posted by Cano
lets try something....

bleh with the nsx-r, my car would blow it away with me driving around the very same track. I cant see how the TVRs were beaten by such a car. it sucks. :rolleyes:

Cano
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hey you guys ever noticed that Gan-San wins most of the races in best motoring? The cars should be happy it's driven by Gan-San, he always make them look good. Gan-San is the man!
 
Originally posted by Hero1
wait you actually drove the car to 3.9 sec 0-60 and went up to 190 mph?? anyway the NSX-R 0-60 is in the low 4's and maybe even high 3's, and the top speed is 175 mph
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do you have a website that i could check out the specs of the NSX Type R, they recently had it on top gear and quoted the 0 - 60mph at 4.8 seconds.

another thing i've been looking around and Honda make a standard NSX with an automatic gearbox that hits 60mph in....wait for it.....7.5 seconds :lol: whats all that about?
 
well, it didnt work. to hell then. taking the video seriously, It also looks supicious to me how the NSX can aoutaccelerate a TVR in a straightaway. I know TVRs arent the greatest cars on turns (maybe no car is as good as the NSX-R in turns now) but I just cant swallow hot it ca beat the torkey TVRs on a straight. I dont get it, but maybe its because, as someone mentioned, drivers weren't used to TVRs, but they drive the NSX-R in every BM flix they seem to release. that might explain it? :odd: but indeed a great video. it really kills them. I mean, I knew the R was gonna win, but by that much difference? hell :odd:

Cano

thanks for the vids, again. 👍
 
well 7.5 sec is wrong, I think I have seen it on another forum somewhere, some idiot was claiming that too. and I remember the track testing day for the Type-R was raining that day and the track time was equal to the Lambo Murcielago on Top Gear minus the weather. there is no way the Type-R does 60 in 4.8, maybe it was 0-62?

Originally posted by BMW POWER
do you have a website that i could check out the specs of the NSX Type R, they recently had it on top gear and quoted the 0 - 60mph at 4.8 seconds.

another thing i've been looking around and Honda make a standard NSX with an automatic gearbox that hits 60mph in....wait for it.....7.5 seconds :lol: whats all that about?
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well I think it was because of the Driver differences, look at more best motoring videos. Gan-San wins most of the races. Gan-San outclasses every other drivers in Best Motoring, including Tsuchiya. but it is possible the NSX-R out accelerates the TVRs, it does quarter mile easily into the 12's

Originally posted by Cano
well, it didnt work. to hell then. taking the video seriously, It also looks supicious to me how the NSX can aoutaccelerate a TVR in a straightaway. I know TVRs arent the greatest cars on turns (maybe no car is as good as the NSX-R in turns now) but I just cant swallow hot it ca beat the torkey TVRs on a straight. I dont get it, but maybe its because, as someone mentioned, drivers weren't used to TVRs, but they drive the NSX-R in every BM flix they seem to release. that might explain it? :odd: but indeed a great video. it really kills them. I mean, I knew the R was gonna win, but by that much difference? hell :odd:

Cano

thanks for the vids, again. 👍
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nope 7.5 seconds is right for the auto (see picture)
at the moment your bringing me your knowledge of the NSX's performance, i would like to see the actual specifications of it. bring me some evidence of its amazing straight line performance and i might accept a low 4 or high 3's 0 - 60
cheers
 

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I can't really find a site. I just got the information from some other forums a while ago. I think the performance will only be listed in Japanese language website. yeah I saw the 7.5 sec, that is either a bad source, or the car is the NSX-T , 250 hp and sutomatic with a very bad driver. and a source that calls the NSX a Japanese supercar, you know it is not the official Honda time. btw, The idiot from another forum I was talking about was here, there are also great specs in the answers, please take time to read them

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=106842

frankly I really don't know how fast the NSX-R is , but the most I have heard on a forum is the high 3's

Originally posted by BMW POWER
nope 7.5 seconds is right for the auto (see picture)
at the moment your bringing me your knowledge of the NSX's performance, i would like to see the actual specifications of it. bring me some evidence of its amazing straight line performance and i might accept a low 4 or high 3's 0 - 60
cheers
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the source is from Top Gear magazine, i've just checked the Honda UK site and they to claim 0 - 60 in 7.5 seconds for the 3.0 litre auto coupe. i have nothing against the NSX, infact i like the car and if it didnt cost 60k over here then i might of bought one, but for the same price i got the RS6 and for 20K cheaper i got the Cerbera and to be honest £60,000 is a lot of money for a Honda
 
Well that is the base NSX with auto, both NSX-S Zero and NSX-R run 0-60 in around low to mid 4... never heard of high 3's.

Gansan mostly win in BM video is because he drives the NSX alot either Type S Type S Zero or Type R, he always drive NSX and Tsuchiya always drive the GT-R. You know why.... because Tsuchiya cant drive the NSX that will give him a BIG advantage. Tsuchiya himself owns a NSX so letting him drive one would give him an advantage that is why i never see tsuchiya driving a NSX.
 
NSX-R will do 0-60 about 4.4 or 4.6secs.

NSXs produce well over 280bhp. An old friend dyno'd his standard NSX at 340bhp at the crank!

The NSX-R probably has about 350bhp.

A Cebera could be out-accelerated at first because the MR layout of the NSX-R and its rear downforce that ensures a high level of grip.

Above about 50mph it should be monstered though.
 
EVO did 0-60 in 4.4 with the NSX-R... But indeed the NSX-R is an obnormally fast car for its power. If you can have the same time around the old nurburgring as a 420bhp porsche turbo... well then... hats off!
 

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