Right, lets have a speech in here....
Excuse me if i rant.
@Koly, get those ride heights up, and the springs set to 10.2 front and 10.0 rear and use 2.5 front camber, and 0.5 rear and then remember this:
When braking, start to turn the car into the corner, this will increase your stopping distance, the more steering you apply, so compensate, think ahead. As the car nears the point of no return for the corner ahead RELEASE THE BRAKE. The BMW will then start to pivot on the settings listed above, and once its nose is halfway towards the direction you are trying to go in, APPLY GAS and the ass of the car will do the rest.
Opposite lock depends on how smoothly you apply the gas.
Hit your right foot down too hard on your purple framework, and the ass is in the grass, but apply smoothly like you're trying to stand on some jello without breaking it, and you will sail through the bends. You arent far off a target time anyway.
@ everyone: 5 or 10 seconds are lost on the ring so VERY VERY easily, dont lose heart!
I often complete a lap in a car, and im 11 seconds off the nearest minute barrier (most stock cars of 276 to 330 BHP will finish a lap in 8'11 on N2 tyres on your first attempt) and i dont think "oh god i managed the fastest time there and im still 11 seconds off a 7 minute time"..... i think: "hmmm..... ok straighten that bit up where i clipped the grass, get the Karussell right, and through the twisties i need 2nd not 3rd in places to drag the revs back up, and hey presto! i have a 7 minute time..."
This is how to look at the ring.
10 seconds is not unachieveable at all.
@ Dave: Dave i love this series, and provided i can get to a pc before 9pm tonite, i will be submitting, but i forgot to check my overall submission time before work this morning and so may not get home in time to look at it, we'll see, but anyway, i think the way you are addressing the views of your racers, and the circuit/series in general is adult, concise, and correct. Hats off to you.
I thoroughly enjoy what i read in here, and what we have run so far, and i dont want it to stop.
Thank god Goixoye came up with a plan for the next one!
Speaking of which:
@ Goixoye: Tuning is a royal pain in the ass, its time consuming and often you end up with a worse car than you had.
Things to consider:
A car that has been tuned for someone else, will not necessarily work for you.
Each element of the car affects its handling, including drivetrain (ff, fr, 4wd) gear ratio (more or less grip through power delivery) spring rate and ride height (depending on course).
The consistent element in this series is the track.
The Nurburgring is used by the man for testing cars in all situations, because it has all situations within one lap.
Its too bumpy, yet has flat sections, its twisty, yet has flat out areas of massive straightline speed, thus it is a nightmare to tune for because it has everything.
I approach GT a different way, and maybe it will spread some light for you.
Firstly, i dont intend to offend, so dont find me patronising on purpose, its just being VEXD all my life tends to make me speak like this, but hey, im trying to help:
If you have a particular car you loved from the first corner you drove round, name it.
This will be a particular type of drivetrain, more than likely FR.
You liked this car because when you turned left, it went left, and when you turned right, it went right.
This car is what you should turn every car you drive into.
How do i do that though David, you say? This is my point David, you say....
Well, ask.
If you dont know, then ask.
Small Fryz is one of the biggest hoarders of information i know, both in his head, and in his multiple PC's at home.
That guy can research and tell you anything, and the difference with him is, he will.
If you ask, he can tell.
Trust him, he doesnt know everything, but he has it all written down from the people who do, if he doesnt.
The best thing to do with any car you are trying to tune and arent winning with, is look at what it doesnt do that your favourite car does, and then try to rectify that.
Hell, i remember one week, we were racing Integra Type R's round deep forest in GT3 WRS, and we used some settings that turned the car into an FR! i know what it loox like, but we did!
That thing had oversteer!!!
Its front wheel drive for blummin's sake.
Anyway, what im trying to say is you should try to recreate your favourite car all the time, by altering the handling, and always remember to lap a track.
If you change a setting, then take one corner and think you have felt the difference, you havent.
Lap.
Then decide if what you have done is right/wrong.
Put simply, the gearbox ratio if shorter will give you more grip, due to intense power delivery. A longer box means the car can wallow in gears, and if it isnt being told a direction to purposefully travel in, then it will be more likely to drift around on the course.
The ride height lowered will give you more stability on Motegi, cos its flat, but not on the ring. raise it if youre sparking in a replay.
The springs need loosening if the circuit is bumpy at all, unless the car is wayyyyyy to soft to begin with.
Look at replays.... are the wheels dissappearing under the arches on bumps? maybe its too low/soft then.
Camber adjusts whether a car oversteers or understeers through turns.
Slide the bar wayyyy up on the front first, then see how it turns, anywhere between 2. and 4. degrees is fine.
You dont like what you get, slide the rear after you've slid the front back to where it was, and try that. Got something better?
Try to equalise somewhere.
Lastly, cos im running out of skin on my fingers:
The tyres we use, the brakes pack we use, the top speed of the vehicle we use and most importantly, the weight of the vehicle we use all have an effect on whether its going to go, stop and turn when we want.
Always consider these things when tuning, write them down, and think ahead.
GT is always pre-cognition, you should turn before you think you should, and stop before you think you should, and try to guess the cars characteristics before you drive it.
Good luck to you all, and please feel free to rip my comments apart, i have that kind of a life on a daily basis, the GTP racers will make no difference.
I EXPECT Small Fryz to do it.
I hope this helps.
Keep it up Dave, i love what u do.
VEXD out
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Two nights running, only 2 laps complete (and way slow), lots of off road excursions and lord knows what else ... if it's bad, I've done it. Come off before the start line, lost it numerous times on the first corner, not seen T1 too many times. Think I'll give it a break for an evening or two and hope I find my groove later in the week.
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