o_O Belgium O_o

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I'm baaaaaack :D

When F1 fans heard that Belgium would not take part in the 2003 world championship, many feared it may spell the end for the famous Spa-Francorchamps circuit. But 2004 sees it make a welcome return to the calendar, the cigarette sponsorship problem seemingly sorted. Drivers will once again be racing through the famous Eau Rouge, crawling through the Bus Stop and La Source, guiding their cars through Rivage and Les Combes as they loop around the picturesque valley of the Spa region, close to the German border. The track is the longest on the calendar by far, remaining 6.973km long despite repeated revisions. The FIA mandate on track length states that a circuit cannot be longer than 7km, hence the reduction from the 7.4km it was not so long ago.

A lot of S's surround this weekend's event. Michael Schumacher need only score 2 more points than Rubens Barrichello to clench his seventh Formula 1 World Championship. Should he win the race, it will be the seventh time Schumacher has won in Spa. Schumacher first raced in Formula 1 for Jordan at Spa-Francorchamps in 1991. A year later he scored his first victory there, now driving for Benetton. 1995 saw another memorable victory as Schumacher had a disastrous qualifying session, finishing 16th, but fought his way through the order to win. In 1997, he opted for Intermediate tyres despite apparently horrendous conditions, but the rain soon abated and as the track dried, Michael lapped at up to 10 seconds faster than his competitors. 2001 saw Michael score his 52nd F1 victory at Spa, thus eclipsing Alain Prost for total wins. The last F1 race at Spa in 2002 was as red as most events of the season, with Schumacher jumping clear by 25 seconds, even from Barrichello, before easing up to the point where he was 5 seconds a lap slower than his rivals, but still comfortably lead.

After the crushing Ferrari domination at Hungary that saw the team clinch their 6th consecutive Constructors Title, few will be betting against the red marque. The superstitous may note that Schumacher will be trying to win his 13th race of the season, but I doubt that such things are at the fore of his mind entering this weekend.

McLaren had a horrible time at Hungary, with Raikkonen once again retiring and neither car able to impress on race day, nor in qualifying. McLaren blamed choosing a harder compound tyre, but it was academic.

BAR will once again be challenging for the victory, but Button failed to deliver on a circuit where BAR had hoped they would win (Hungaroring), and the Spa circuit should favour Ferrari.

Two teams that saw welcome returns to form were Williams and Renault, returning to their points scoring places, remarkably close to those of the Australian GP. Williams reversion to a more 'classic' nose cone may help their chances slightly, whilst Renault will be banking on their legendary start system to make up for the lack of straight line speed they may suffer with on the long opening straight after Raidillon.

Some of the more interesting news in the break was Jarno Trulli stating that he thinks something is different on his car to Alonso's, pointing out that until he announced he was leaving the team, Alonso was unable to match his pace but suddenly Trulli's performance had dropped off markedly. It could simply be that Trulli is trying to pass the buck for his poor performance lately (a string of DNFs and finishes outside the points).

Another one on the rumour mill is that the FIA has been liasing extraordinarily closely with Ferrari in regards to the 2005 regulations, allowing the Italian team to be far more advanced in their car design for next season. Teams have also complained that raising the wing levels will mean they must abandon their twin-keel hull designs, something Ferrari has never dabbled in.

So here's the place for all the times, gossip and thoughts throughout the weekend to come. Enjoy.
 
I have said it before, and I'll say it again.










































I WANT RAIN :mad:
 
I suppose you want another multicar pileup as well. ;)
 
A Montoya, Button, Coulthard getting-together at the first corner would be good.

Or even just Button by himself.
 
Mike Rotch
I WANT RAIN :mad:

News Flash from Belgium...

IMO it could be rainy ;)

No seriously, weather's been on and off for the last week, I'd say it won't change over the weekend...

<Z>
 
Mike Rotch
A Montoya, Button, Coulthard getting-together at the first corner would be good.

Or even just Button by himself.
GilesGuthrie
There have been a number of instances where members have written "I hope driver xxx crashes" or worse. I have seen many posts wishing physical harm and even death to be inflicted upon drivers or others involved in motorsport.


This is completely unacceptable

I have already stated this before, in another thread, but clearly the warning fell upon deaf ears, therefore it is being replicated in these threads.

The moderating staff understand that people have their favourites in motorsport, and that they might therefore wish the rivals of their favourites to undergo misfortune. Fair enough, but if we see any crash or physical harm being wished upon any participant in any form of motorsport, then we shall immediately issue an AUP violation warning.
Somehow I expected a SuperMod to adhere to that.....:odd:

Anyway, my bet on another red whitewash...unfortuanatly.

Hope Kimi is in the frame for a chance, if the team make no silly mistakes and the car holds together(:grumpy:) I think he's in for a real chance.👍
 
You idiot.

Failure to detect sarcasm on your part is your problem, not mine.

Additionally, if you put 2 and 2 together, you would see that i particularly specified
the first corner
knowing full well the run up to the first corner is one of the shortest - if not THE shortest - in F1. Anyone who has watched any Spa GP will know that the worst that can happen at the first corner - after the start - is a damaged wing/ front wheel.

Furthermore, NOWHERE did I state the desire for any driver to incur physical harm to themselves, or their fellow drivers. So before you clamber up on your high horse, take a few seconds to think things through properly.
 
GO MIKE!!!! GO MIKE!!! GO MIKE!!!!

I thought that you liked Button. Joking about Button like that. Shame on you. Have you guys seen the vid of the multicar pile-up? I downloaded it. Damn it was huge.

Yeah I do hope it rains too. Add a bit of....... Umm........ **** it. Schumi will probably win anyway.
 
Nope, cant say I am Button's greatest fan. And the manner in which he jumped ship hasnt endeared him any further.

And I would also like to point out that that multicar pile-up occured AFTER turn one, leading into Eau Rouge. ;)

Shame on you

Indeed. :O Had I known certain people here were as literal as drainpipes, I would have put sarcasm tags around it.
 
If its in a funny way (i.e. no harm coming to them) I think it should be ok. Like the speed walkers in the Olympics. It would be funny if one tripped over! :lol:
 
DQuaN
If its in a funny way (i.e. no harm coming to them) I think it should be ok. Like the speed walkers in the Olympics. It would be funny if one tripped over! :lol:

Well, as I was one of the people who complained about the incident last year, I would consider it a bit strange if I did the exact opposite 👍

Watching speed walkers freaks me out. They amble along faster then i run. :scared:

Incidentally, ITV think this weekend is a gimme for Schumi.
 
My top 5 drivers
1) Schumi (Who else would it be?)
2) Barrichello
3) Button
=) Alonso
5) Webber

I respect Button. He has skills.

You guys are talking about the multicar pile-up that involved 20 cars right?

Some people are kinda dense. Aren't they? :lol:
 
DRIFT4EVA
My top 5 drivers
1) Schumi (Who else would it be?)
2) Barrichello
3) Button
=) Alonso
5) Webber

I respect Button. He has skills.

You guys are talking about the multicar pile-up that involved 20 cars right?

Some people are kinda dense. Aren't they? :lol:

I'd go with that, but sub Webber for Barrichelo, and put Kimi in second 👍

True, he has matured into a quick driver :)

Well, that is teh incident i am refering too. 👍

*cough*.
 
I dislike Kimi.

Cool. They just showed the pile-up on TV. It was on a sports show. They were telling us what sports were going to be on this week. Don't forget. That was the same race where Schumi came around to lap DC, but wound up hitting him.
 
Mike Rotch
You idiot.

Failure to detect sarcasm on your part is your problem, not mine.

Additionally, if you put 2 and 2 together, you would see that i particularly specified knowing full well the run up to the first corner is one of the shortest - if not THE shortest - in F1. Anyone who has watched any Spa GP will know that the worst that can happen at the first corner - after the start - is a damaged wing/ front wheel.

Furthermore, NOWHERE did I state the desire for any driver to incur physical harm to themselves, or their fellow drivers. So before you clamber up on your high horse, take a few seconds to think things through properly.
Way to take it too serious buddy. I was joking too. Jeez.
 
Let's just move on.

Just over 8 hours until the wheels roll once again.

Spa is pretty notorious on crashes, I recall a FIA GT event there last year where one of the Vipers crashed so heavily (rolling and igniting) before Eau Rouge that the race ran under pace car for 3 hours.

Weather forecast is still for a sunny Sunday, but that can change pretty quickly. I'd love to see it rain but I think if it did it would only help the Bridgestone runners.
 
as much as ppl want a 20 car pile up, we will be lucky if there is a 4 car pile up, i think f1 is to perfect these days, the worst crashes havent even been bad, youv had the odd big spin and 5 roll crash. but i hope it does piss rain, it would be interesting, it hasnt been like that for a few seasons that i can recall of, but go button!!! i hope he does well
 
GO MINARDI!!!!

sorry, just had to.
no one gives them a cheer in here

id like to see a multi car pileup, just to give the also-rans a shot at glory. see drivers like pantano, klien, bruni, baumgartner and heidfeld get a run up the pointy end...and webber as well. that would make the race enteraining.
 
Looks like it will be a dry race (partial cloud cover and an odd chance for rain). I"m looking forward to the race, Spa always manages to be entertaining :)

Lately I"ve been supporting all non-ferrari drivers, especially BAR Honda. Would be great to see Sato finish with the first three riders.
 
First practice starts now, so we'll see how the day shapes up, it's dry and cool atm.

I don't want to see any pile ups, we need all the racers we can get. Having half the field eliminated at the first corner doesn't necessarily make the race any more interesting, in fact it can make it even more fragmented.
 
One of the Toyota test driver - Briscoe - just had a big off at the bottom of the hill after La Source. He is ok, but the car is missing a few wheels and they had to stop the session.
 
Doubt that's how he wanted his day in the Spa sun to end.

Morning Results:
1. Anthony Davidson (BAR)
2. Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
3. Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari)
4. Bjorn Wirdheim (Jaguar)
5. Kimi Räikkönen (McLaren)
6. Fernando Alonso (Renault)
7. Mark Webber (Jaguar)
8. Christian Klien (Jaguar)

Afternoon Results
1. Kimi Räikkönen (McLaren)
2. Jenson Button (BAR)
3. Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
4. Anthony Davidson (BAR)
5. Takuma Sato (BAR)
6. David Coulthard (McLaren)
7. Antonio Pizzonia (Williams)
8. Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari)
 
Go Kimi!

The bad part about rain, is that bridgestones are awesome on water. Therefore another unexpected win for the dark horse...
 
Well, the weather is so bad at the moment that the first practice session was cancelled due to fog. The second session saw Rubens Barrichello 9 tenths faster than anyone, but the session only lasted 13 minutes as a result of the weather. Qualifying should be interesting at this rate.

I'm going to go look up the procedure should qualifying not be possible.

The fog meant that the medical helicopter for one of the local hospitals could not take off, and FIA requires the helicopter of 3 hospitals to be available I believe. Something else to check up on.
 
Be interesting to see who goes for a dry/wet setup since tomorrow is meant to get better.
 
Mike Rotch
I have said it before, and I'll say it again.










































I WANT RAIN :mad:



It will be raining,I live here at 20 miles from Spa and it's raining so bad.
 
Here's the qualifying result ...

1 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:56.232

2 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:56.304

3 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:56.686

4 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:57.990

5 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:58.040

6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:58.175

7 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:58.729

8 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:59.008

9 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:59.552

10 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:59.635

11 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:59.681

12 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 2:00.237

13 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 2:01.246

14 4 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 2:01.447

15 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 2:01.813

16 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 2:02.645

17 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 2:02.651

18 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 2:03.303

19 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 2:03.833

20 16 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 2:03.895


It's good seeing Jarno Trulli getting pole. 👍

Barrichello and Raikkonen both made the same mistakes just before the end of the lap that cost them.
 
I made a thread were the results are.

Don't worry,I didn't copy them,I have my own sources :)
 
Oh, do the results usually go in a different thread? I thought it would have been wiser to keep everything "Belgium" in the same thread.
 
Woo-hoo, my Renault boys at pole, and three! The runs were pretty cool to watch, or at least, the rooster tails were.

I hope it rains tomorrow, too. Call me a sick bastard.

With the big jump the Renualts have been getting lately, the launch should be pretty interesting. Till' morrow'.
 
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