Obsolete cars in GT5

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(sarcasm)Let's get rid of the Skyline GTR R34 and replace it with a Skyline Coupe (Infinti G35/G37) since the R34 is obsolete as it is older(sarcasm)
 
(sarcasm)Let's get rid of the Skyline GTR R34 and replace it with a Skyline Coupe (Infinti G35/G37) since the R34 is obsolete as it is older(sarcasm)

There's a difference between classic cars/ old relevant cars and plain obsolete models.

The difference is subjective, and many in this thread don't agree.

But nobody is saying we should drop R34 and godzillas just because they are old.
 
Yes. It makes it a more realistic version!

Every car from GT4 will probably feel so foreign in GT5, but in a good way.
That maybe so, but if I'm looking to buy a Ford Focus RS in GT5 I'd want the 2009/10 model.

Classic Fords would be the likes of the RS500 Cosworth or a 70's Escort.

There is no need to include the vast majority of regular 2000-2006 road cars, particularly at the expense of the latest models and classics.
 
if we go by GTPSP, again, there will be ~200 more cars. Of that 200, maybe 30 will be ferrari, lambo, and Aston Martin. So that leaves ~170 that will most likely be either 2007+ models or just 2009+ models. That's maybe 3-4 new cars per manufacturer and assuming they don't leave out a few older models.
 
There is no need to include the vast majority of regular 2000-2006 road cars, particularly at the expense of the latest models and classics.

It doesn't work like that. I'm just speculating here, but i'm thinking PD committed themself to keeping all cars in from GT4, as they got so much negative feedback for GT3 because they removed so many great cars from GT2.

If they never planned on doing that, there would be far less than 950-1000 cars in the game, i'd estimate around 600 at best if they removed 'unecessary' and 'obsolete' models and variants. Removing other cars does not necessarily make way for new ones, they're not limited by anything other than time. And considering it takes ~6 months for one person to model one car at the sort of polygon levels we're talking here, i wouldn't be surprised if everyone here is going to be disappointed when the new 09-10 variants of cars from the past few years arn't included because of time restrictions. DLC is a possibility, but repeatedly adding cars simply pushes back the release. As someone said before, there has to be a point where they stop adding cars. And where DLC is concerned, they have to hold something back for GT6 if we want that game within the next 3-4 years, otherwise it'll be on PS4 and we'll have to wait 5+ years all over again.

I'd say the vast majority of the cars are modelled and ready for GT5. Infact the game is probably pretty much complete. I'd very much doubt we see more than 10 cars from 2010 onwards (excluding concepts).


Basically they can't win. They put more than double the cars in the game as the closest competitor, and people complain about the unnecessary cars and the variants. If they removed the variants and unnecessary models in favour of new models and classic race cars etc. There would be complaints that X cars from GT4 weren't in GT5. If they keep all the cars from GT4/PSP and add lots of classic models and new models that we havn't seen in GT before, there will still be complaints that X car wasn't included, or "I want the new corvette variant with 15 extra bhp" etc. Which will lead to calls for DLC. Which will push back the release for GT6... Either that or people will start calling it GT5.5 because of again the lack of new models. (Although having said that, GT6 is probably just going to be a slightly improved GT5 with Porsche added... :p Don't quote me on that though)
 
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Basically they can't win. They put more than double the cars in the game as the closest competitor, and people complain about the unnecessary cars and the variants. If they removed the variants and unnecessary models in favour of new models and classic race cars etc. There would be complaints that X cars from GT4 weren't in GT5. If they keep all the cars from GT4/PSP and add lots of classic models and new models that we havn't seen in GT before, there will still be complaints that X car wasn't included, or "I want the new corvette variant with 15 extra bhp" etc. Which will lead to calls for DLC. Which will push back the release for GT6... Either that or people will start calling it GT5.5 because of again the lack of new models.

Well said, 👍 this is the way the game should be, keeping ALL the cars from the previous versions and adding a couple of hundreds of new models and classics. Taking on the discussion, I sincerely don't mind to have a '06 Focus ST and a '09 Focus RS, they're the same base model? Yes, they are. The same car too? Not a chance! :D

(Although having said that, GT6 is probably just going to be a slightly improved GT5 with Porsche added... :p Don't quote me on that though)

Too late :D, but I'm expecting to see porsche on GT6 too, also I believe that we will see a constantly growing Ferrari collection(I want to see the complete historic Lamborghini line up in GT6), some more fantastic cars, a few more new concepts, more tracks, some dozens of new models and improvement on some little details (maybe we finally get the greatly essential 3D trees... :dopey:). Physics, damage and weather may be done for GT5, so GT6 may come out after three and a half years after GT5 and sells another dozen of million copies.
 
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I hope Porsche is included in GT6 too, my hope is based on the fact they are now effectively part of the Volkswagen Group ( all their brands were mostly present in GT4, and Bugatti is now in GT5 ), for the same reason i'm hopeful Maserati is included in GT5 because it is owned by Ferrari ( Fiat ).
Mentioning the term obsolete doesn't hurt my feelings as a lot of cars frankly are, not the special editions ( RS, GTI's etc. ), probably neither as second- hand runabouts IRL.
Everybody has their own preferences and don't get me wrong, the more cars (even the "obsolete" ones ) the better.
But if choices have to be made and we don't want too much similar models overlapping each other i would say include for example Golf Mk6 instead of Mk5 because the Mk6 is basically a face-lifted Mk5 unlike the Mk4 which was a completely different model ( just an example, not an invitation for all Golf enthusiasts to explain to me all the subtle differences between Mk5/6 ).
I would not find it regretful if they were to replace the old Citroen C5 ( drab ) with the new C5 ( great ) although they are completely different models.
It's not like the old C5 was a classic in waiting.....
 
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