Oceania now split from Asia - horrible decision

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by resarf, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. HellzFire

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    Cultural differences have nothing to do with you having problems with latin american drivers. You're just being unlucky to find bad drivers on your rooms.

    Mixing the regions was a must because races for latin americans were empty. Makes sense. Take that mindset out of your head that we are dirty and you'll notice people from every region can be dirty.

    With the low numbers of players here, we would often matchmake with B/C SR drivers. Not a good experience for everyone.
     
  2. 05XR8

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    Pot luck. Had a race with 4 Aussies in the red and me and a couple other Aussie flag players with golden bars.
     
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  3. NevilleNobody

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    I have to agree,

    I have to agree, I sweat with a south American behind me, if in a beetle I know i am cooked.
     
  4. LackLucid

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    Have just now registered to agree with previous posters unhappy with this decision, but Oceania region.

    The current solution is, at best, shabby and amateurish. The competition is Forza Motorsport.

    In online competitive multiplayer latency is paramount. End of story.
     
  5. TurboTacho

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    Just did a couple of races and the merge was kinda nightmare for me, thanks to my bad luck with horrid drivers. Though I did met a few really great players from Aussie and NZ that pushed for position and fair racing. I had one guy who gave back the position to re-fight for it cleanly in a small corner incident which we backed off, even though he's not penalized. Hats down to him!

    However, I feel that the re-merge seems to have shaken up the grid in a much spread out manner, which is pretty competitive. I've seen my qualy times hit to the back half of the grid when it could've been on the single digits. That's a bit of motivation for me to push for an extra tenths or two around the corners, which get me a little braver this time.

    Ultimately, I think I've got more shunts (and escapees) into the wall than last week, bless me. :banghead:
     
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  6. splitwindow

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    Sure seems that way.
    Tonight I've had a few races with more than usual (pre region split) Aussies showing 1 red bar, however I've also had a couple of races where I and some other Aussies are pulling a full 5 green bars against a field of mostly Japanese.
    Not sure what's going on here?
     
  7. LackLucid

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    The initial grid-order latency readout is still your ping to the previously used Australia servers, now used for FIA races only, while the readout once the track loads is your 'real' ping to the Japan servers.

    Another sign of this is that the 'Test Connection Quality' tool will still utilise the Australian servers.
    (Giving a result impossible for Japanese servers, geographically speaking)
     
  8. Sven Jurgens

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    Perhaps it's the same as in the Americas. I have noticed that some races are played out on the South American server. One race all the North Americans have green connections and the South Americans yellow to red, next race it's reversed with Brazilians with 5 bar connections and all the North Americans at max 3 bars. The NA server seems to be used more often luckily.
     
  9. Voodoovaj

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    We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. There was a completely different complexion to races when the servers were segregated. I'm pleasantly surprised to have seen that, so far, they have remained at a high level (I can't speak for everyone). Hopefully, it stays this way.

    You have to ask yourself, how did the Brazilian flag come to symbolize dirty drivers to so many? Just bad luck? Or, like many stereotypes, because there is a high degree of truth to it?

    In any case, that's a discussion for another time and place.
     
  10. HellzFire

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    Because people like you keep spreading this. There's bad drivers in all regions. Nations with more people playing will end up having more dirty drivers logically. I personally had a lot more problems against american drivers than brazilians but I dont keep calling american drivers dirty.

    Again, I don't see it as a cultural problem like you do. I had some issues with brazilians this last season in FIA but mainly because these kind of drivers shouldnt be in top tier rooms (because of the lack of players, almost everyone are matchmaking together) so they were slower and did not have the best racecraft in the world. That would happen all the same if that happened on an all american server with people from different skill levels in it.
     
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  11. MrBrunoA

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    Why is it always a Canadian complaining about Brazilians? Is it just a coincidence that the dirtiest drivers I've met online are all Canadians?

    I suspect that dirty Brazilians take it easy against their compatriots and Canadians do the same. I've noticed that Brazilians and Argentinians tend to say hi and wish good luck to their compatriots before races, so there's definitely an element of "us agains them" for some people.

    Since PD likes to test things, would be interesting if they removed the flags for the daily races for some time.
     
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  12. Sven Jurgens

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    Lol no they don't. It's cutt throat! However Canadians are pretty fast, as well as Brazilians. No wonder they clash more often.

    Anyway it's no illusion that my DR decline turned around after the server merge. I drive without qualifying and have been finishing top half since the merge instead of bottom half. due to more bumping and punting on the track.
     
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  13. splitwindow

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    So this weekend was my first real chance to give it a good bash since the re merge.
    About 400kms yesterday and close to 500 today.

    LAG!!!

    Is it just me or is there something seriously off going on here?
    Did I just grow accustomed to the Oceania server way to quickly? (I don't "think" that's what it is) but it seems to be absolutely awful all of a sudden.
    I've got over 1100 races under my belt over 14 months and sure, there has always been a guy here or there with a bit of lag and of course Captain 1 Red Bar teleporting all over the place like he's driving Littlefingers ship, but it seems to have been quite significantly worse this weekend than I ever remember.

    Maybe it is just me, anybody else in Oceania?
     
  14. ed24

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    I got given a Star Rating even though I only competed in about half of the days of the latest FIA season (and no particularly outstanding results) - another side effect of limiting the player pool to Oceania in the FIA races?
     
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  15. Melbourne Park

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    I've not been able to play for a few days, but had a couple of races back with the Japanese/malayia/OZ/NZ etc etc and ye, a totally different feeling, especially at the tart and in close traffic. Get a gap front and behind though and it quit ok. With the only Oceania setup, that was similar to sole qualifying - brilliant. But despite the much poorer environment, I do I prefer a bigger field. It will give more opportunities than Australia's narrower ones.

    What they really need to do is just allow you to pick a region - Oceania, or join Asia. Or a Canadian just racer in Nth America. Or race in the Americas all over. The problem is though, that if all the Japanese refused to race the Australian, then Ozzies couldn't enter an occupied Asian group; or if the Canadians refused to race South Americans, the South Americans could never race a Canadian ... the answer might be to alternate daily - one day all the Americas, the next split the Americas. The same for Oceania separated from Asia one day, and all in the next. Sony could organise when the racing levels have many players, then cut the rear into the more local area.
     
  16. resarf

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    No pretty normal back to before the split first took place. The Japanese get full green bars and the rest of Asia, particularly Oceania get 3 or 4 light green or yellow bars. No massive lags in my races.
     
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  17. ShiftingGears

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    In exactly the same boat. I don't know how many actually get nominated for Star Player rank, but for reference I was ranked 80th in Nations, with two races entered and one top five finish.

    In GT5 I found that I was consistently more unlucky with some nationalities more than others. ;)
     
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  18. VanessaMagick

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    You know, I've played a few races and wondered why Sport mode seems so dead that I rarely get more than 4-6 players in my lobby.

    It never occurred to me that I wasn't seeing any of our friends from Japan or Korea in any of them. That's a shame, I prefer more active lobbies...
     
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  19. Voodoovaj

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    Most "dirty" racers are not intentionally dirty, but overly aggressive with poor decision making. I find it telling that you had issues on your servers, and I had no issues on mine. In fact, I had a great clean race bonus streak happening. I set a new record.

    It's all anecdotal evidence. In any event, it doesn't matter. I have to deal with it either way.
     
  20. LeGeNd-1

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    I reckon PD should set the game's server connection algorithm based on your actual geographical location (shouldn't be hard with tracking IP addresses). I use an AU flag but geographically in IDN, but I still get 3 yellow bars when other similarly placed Asian players have full. So most likely I'm still using the AU server which makes it doubly worse because my data packet has to go to AU, then back again :crazy:
     
  21. ed24

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    I competed in 5 and 4 races for overall ranks in the 50s.

    The official website says the following;

    Nations Cup: Top 200 players in a Season's ranking,
    or the top 10 players for each country

    Manufacturer Series: Top 200 players in a Season's ranking,
    or the top 10 players from each manufacturer
    I guess this means that there are very few players on the server who compete in all of the races! And based on that, if anyone picks a 'rare' manufacturer they'd almost be guaranteed to get in the top 10.