On the hunt for old GT1/2 Promotional Images...

[SlipZtrEm]

Well, first off; I hope this is alright to post here. Mods, if not, apologizes, and please kill this thread in the quickest way possible .

Anywho, I've been trying to hunt down all the ancient images PD used to use for promoting the PS1 GT's. You know, the ones that looked like renders (and actually fairly close to what we'd end up seeing on PS2)?

Here's a good example of what I mean:

(found here: http://downloads.khinsider.com/wallpapers/gran-turismo , although a fair amount are GT3, and none are GT1).

Anyways, there were a lot back then, and I've been trying to get a collection together of all of them. Surely there are people here better skilled in the dark arts of Google searching than I am, or that may have them saved somewhere for unknown reasons (I actually had a lot on an ancient 486, but who knows where that hard drive has disappeared to). Specifically, there was one on Autumn Ring with a red Del Sol LM (I believe intended for GT1) that has eluded my search for years.

If we can amass a solid collection, that'd be awesome, and I wouldn't doubt it'd serve as a catalyst for some nostalgic strolls down memory lanes. Let's see!

 

[VXR]

Haha, that's quite the bullshot for the day! Cracking image though.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> I'll help out.

-> I miss this car:

-> Representing my S2K-ness:

-> I really miss the [R]:

-> Total classic, a Version IV STi:

-> The original bad boy, the Castrol Supra:

-> I know its from a video clip:

-> S2K represent!

-> Huh!? Wut?

-> ARGH! Too much Maserati Granturismo pics!!!

 

[VXR]

That Primera is so cool. I was hoping to re-create it on FM3, but I can't find any other shots of it. I guess I'd have to use an S13 or 14 as the closest shape. Ah, I know a Sentra.

 

[edward_v12]

GT1 "Official Images" seems provided only posi-films.
4 films in press kit (Europe), but I've seen only one in alexbrasil's collection ;
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/alexbrasil_gt/IMG_0395.jpg

probably most films lost in 1990's by actual editing magazine or newspaper something.
hard to find original hi-reso GT1 Official Images.

when released GT2, Images provided by CD in press kit ;

here the GT1/2 official poster Images captured from original store posters. enjoy.
GT1 Japan
http://art40.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631896_org.v1286029640.jpg
GT1 UK
http://art38.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631933_org.v1286029662.jpg
GT1 U.S.
http://art44.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631992_org.v1286029676.jpg
GT2 Japan (type-C)
http://art33.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51650943_org.v1286039430.jpg
GT2 AU
http://art36.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632079_org.v1286029702.jpg
GT2 U.S.
http://art42.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632111_org.v1286029715.jpg
GT2 U.S. (backside)
http://art40.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632152_org.v1286029729.jpg

 

[Pupik]

There's nothing really wrong with displaying "promotional images", as long as nobody claims them as their own. That's the point of promotional images, of course.

We've believed to have had visits from Sony/PD, and they would have sent us that cease-and-desist letter years ago if they were holding a grudge for all those Photo Mode and screen shots we have on our site.

I know its a video, but I thought this ad got me piqued my interest in playing the darn thing:



The guitar riff disguised as a race car motor was quite intriguing.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

Sweet video Pupik makes me want to play GT2 and see if I can pull 240 out of Turn 4.

 

[drivatar]

Great thread! 👍

I was looking for similar things but it wasn't successful. (https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128093).

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I noticed that thread! 👍

edward - Those are exactly what I meant! There were plenty for GT1 too, and I noticed some of them used in those official posters. It's a shame PD doesn't seem to have any of them anymore; the GT2 site is kind of a joke.

There was also a screensaver that utilized all these pictures, although trying to search google for an official GT1 or GT2 screensaver is just as useless

 

[Tornado]

There was also a screensaver that utilized all these pictures, although trying to search google for an official GT1 or GT2 screensaver is just as useless

Man, I had a GT2 screensaver a few years ago that was loaded with the exact type of images you seem to be looking for.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Those are great images (and vid). Brings back memories for sure! And Gran Turisumo, seriously?

 

[Patruck GT2]

Ever wondered about how they made the cars in the promotional images look so much better than in the game itself. Probably, they took snapshots of the game while playing replays, then, with some primitive photoshop editing, they stole texture from real photos (of the lamps, plates and other things) and glued them onto the original picture.
I remember a picture of a blue skyline which was evidently made with this method. The Mini picture on this page also seems to have been obtained with a similar process.

In that pictures, graphics seemed more near to GT3 ones than GT2's ones. I remember feeling a bit disappointed when I realized my game wouldn't have that "photographic" resemblance with reality.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> GT1 was decent in the first place. In fact, they had a USDM ad of a [R]Lancer Evo IV taking a corner and it was said that it was taken from an actual game!

-> But GT2 was heavily rendered & modified, knowing that GT2 had worse graphics (compared to GT1) and its game development was rushed evidently.

-> GT3 was an excellent game (graphically). Minimal modifications was needed overall.

EDIT-> I stumbled these couple of pics, remember what I've said about GT1 above? Yes...these were on the USDM ad, too bad they were cropped.

 

[Flegmatica]

Maby on PC platform these graphics would been possible.

 

[Tornado]

Ever wondered about how they made the cars in the promotional images look so much better than in the game itself. Probably, they took snapshots of the game while playing replays, then, with some primitive photoshop editing, they stole texture from real photos (of the lamps, plates and other things) and glued them onto the original picture.

GT2 is quite limited by the resolution of the PSX. The textures and models are actually far higher in resolution than the PSX is able to adequately show. Its possible that the PSX SDK allowed for higher higher resolution playback of the games, and PD just grabbed shots off of that.
I say this because many of the shots look fairly similar to how GT2 looks when you run it through a PSX emulator or Bleemcast with the image quality settings turned on.

 

[tankuroded]

^ Or, when playing on PS2 with smooth texture mapping, right?

 

[VXR]

Someone told me the smooth texture mapping makes the cars transparent in another thread.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

On PS3 it makes the image smoother.

 

[Tornado]

^ Or, when playing on PS2 with smooth texture mapping, right?

They are quite a bit different. All the PS2 texture smoothing does it some form of filtering that slightly cleans up the textures, occasionally as a result of glitches. For GT2, the glitch is that it turns some of the car textures somewhat transparent. The PS3 emulator also presents the textures as they were on the PSX, but upscales the output.
The PC emulators and Bleemcast, on the other hand, could be configured to display the raw textures at a higher resolution, something more akin to playing an old PC game at a modern resolution. They display the textures as they actually were created and inserted into the game rather than downscaling them for the hardware and then upscaling them to your TV.

 

[tankuroded]

^ Oh. I see. But this make this thread strays-off of current topic.

 

[VXR]

GT2 on a 1080p TV - wow, that's not a pretty sight!

 

[TeamStig]

The guitar riff disguised as a race car motor was quite intriguing.

Just need to point out how awesome this ad is. GT2 had a great ad campaign (best of the franchise IMO), and Sony showed real marketing genius with these spots. Here's another one.


Here's an ad for GT1. Not as good (very 90's, in your face and pretty dated with the music and the evil laugh at the end) but reminds me how racing games used to be before GT came along and changed everything.



You guys can get back on topic now

 

[thekylerules]

GT1 "Official Images" seems provided only posi-films.
4 films in press kit (Europe), but I've seen only one in alexbrasil's collection ;
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/alexbrasil_gt/IMG_0395.jpg

probably most films lost in 1990's by actual editing magazine or newspaper something.
hard to find original hi-reso GT1 Official Images.

when released GT2, Images provided by CD in press kit ;

here the GT1/2 official poster Images captured from original store posters. enjoy.
GT1 Japan
http://art40.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631896_org.v1286029640.jpg
GT1 UK
http://art38.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631933_org.v1286029662.jpg
GT1 U.S.
http://art44.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51631992_org.v1286029676.jpg
GT2 Japan (type-C)
http://art33.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51650943_org.v1286039430.jpg
GT2 AU
http://art36.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632079_org.v1286029702.jpg
GT2 U.S.
http://art42.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632111_org.v1286029715.jpg
GT2 U.S. (backside)
http://art40.photozou.jp/pub/353/288353/photo/51632152_org.v1286029729.jpg

You know the saddest thing. I can name every car on these posters.

 

[SVX]

Is this what your looking for?

 

[red piramyd k]

Is this what your looking for?

ohh this from the manual is SICK!

 

[Deko Wolf-GTPT]

-> I'll help out.

-> Huh!? Wut?

Well, I guess NASCAR was part of the original plan for GT2, since one of the Fords have a racing modification option.

I was surprised with myself when I found my GT2 manual book, along with a guide for driving.
It's from the PAL version, and it's in English. Shall I post a few scans?

I also used to have a very special poster of all (well, most of) the rally cars in GT2, wish I could find it now...

 

[Xenn]

Well, I guess NASCAR was part of the original plan for GT2, since one of the Fords have a racing modification option.

The fact in a Gran Turismo 2 demo I found an indiapolis track, could've made that the track for the NASCAR's.

But then again, it could've been for something else.

 

[Deko Wolf-GTPT]

The fact in a Gran Turismo 2 demo I found an indiapolis track, could've made that the track for the NASCAR's.

But then again, it could've been for something else.

That one, along with test course and super speedway, would be enough for a special event.
I once read in a magazine article (dated yearly 1999) that Kazanuri didn't want muscle cars, saying that it wasn't necessary. But after a visit to the U.S. (to build a database for Lagua Seca) he realized just how important muscle cars are in the American culture. So he "injected" a bunch of muscle cars in GT2.

True story, I may not recall the exact words used in the article, but that pretty much sums it up. And I do believe that GT2 still holds the record for most muscle cars in the GT series? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In other news....I wish I had my stack of game magazines with me right now, I used to collect the official playstation magazine (Portuguese edition of course, but the demos were same as UK), and they would go on and on talking about Gran Turismo throughout several issues, some times even 3 in a row.
And of course, staying with tradition, they had A LOT of screenshots and high resolution pictures.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

That one, along with test course and super speedway, would be enough for a special event.
I once read in a magazine article (dated yearly 1999) that Kazanuri didn't want muscle cars, saying that it wasn't necessary. But after a visit to the U.S. (to build a database for Lagua Seca) he realized just how important muscle cars are in the American culture. So he "injected" a bunch of muscle cars in GT2.

True story, I may not recall the exact words used in the article, but that pretty much sums it up. And I do believe that GT2 still holds the record for most muscle cars in the GT series? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In other news....I wish I had my stack of game magazines with me right now, I used to collect the official playstation magazine (Portuguese edition of course, but the demos were same as UK), and they would go on and on talking about Gran Turismo throughout several issues, some times even 3 in a row.
And of course, staying with tradition, they had A LOT of screenshots and high resolution pictures.

-> The Test Course, Super Speedway, Red Rock Valley, & and the possible INDIpendent Park are enough to inject a proper NASCAR-like special event in GT2, even if its in the lowest priority on PD's behalf...

-> Based on the original manufacturer standpoint, yes. GT2 had a more diverse and notable muscle car list on any GT game unfortunately...

-> I still have a copy of the manual and the Driving Guide. I'm still in search of finding GT2's OST w/ bonus features...

 

[ohyeahthatdude]

I've got some pics:
GT2:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010614104743/http://www.gran-turismo.com/gt2.html
GT1:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010614103106/http://www.gran-turismo.com/gt1.html
*NOTE* You cannot enlarge any of the photos.