One disapointment in the info from Japan...

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I agree 100% with the thread creator on this. It should have been restricted to drag racing, period. I would hate being passed in the last straight of a 2 hour enduro by a car just because it has nitrous oxyde or any situation at all. I hope AI just use it when you do so, this would be the equal way.


See ya :sly:
 
You also have to realize that the GT series really isn't any organized by any kind of sanctioning racing bodies...I feel it is more of a track day situation...seriously....There aren't any rules or regulations to cars in GT series, so I don't see why having nitrous is that big of a deal. Also, repeating what has already been said, you don't have to use it.
 
Lambo88
I would hate being passed in the last straight of a 2 hour enduro by a car just because it has nitrous oxyde or any situation at all. I hope AI just use it when you do so, this would be the equal way.
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Based upon my experience in GT3, I doubt it would ever happen. I seem to remember lapping the field in pretty much every one of the endurance races. Even the one on Apricot Hill with all stock Miatae...

Even the Formula GT series races weren't all that close, with the exception of the one F094-H that would only be a half a lap or so behind at the end...
 
Totally agree with fastcats.

If the AI starts using NOS and there is no option to turn it off, then it's just plain dumb.

I can easily choose not to use the arcady NAWS ****, but having no choice with AI is just dumb if that is the case.

fastcatsi
Ok, then let me ask this question:

What if there is a time in the game that the AI uses the nitrous? Maybe at the higher levels. Then you would be forced to use it. Please note that I'm being hypothetical here. Yes, I know I dont have to use it, and I wont even if it means loosing time and time again. I just feel that in a game that has so much realism in it that they would have kept the nitrous in the drags only. It is my opinion and I am posting that. Remember, that's what forums are for, opinions.

And yes, I'm tired of all the "NAWZ should be in GT!" threads myself.
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Being allowed to use it for circuit racing does seem pretty stupid & if the AI does use it then it will spoil some races for sure. It makes you wonder whether this would have been the case with an official online mode too. :indiff:
 
don't worry about the endurance racing with nitrous. if you're about to lose, hit it and vin diesel will look over at the AI car which will have a flashing intake manifold warning light, then proceed to win
 
it wont really bother me. im sure i will have fun and open it up every once in a while at a corner just to see the results <8- ) nos is a brand.....try nitrous oxide. anyways i think a really cool thing that could be in GT5 would be boost controllers! slam that thing open to like 17 PSI everyonce in a while but if you upped the boost too much you would blow the engine <8- ) just a thought.
 
fastcatsi
Ok, then let me ask this question:

What if there is a time in the game that the AI uses the nitrous? Maybe at the higher levels. Then you would be forced to use it. Please note that I'm being hypothetical here. Yes, I know I dont have to use it, and I wont even if it means loosing time and time again. I just feel that in a game that has so much realism in it that they would have kept the nitrous in the drags only. It is my opinion and I am posting that. Remember, that's what forums are for, opinions.

And yes, I'm tired of all the "NAWZ should be in GT!" threads myself.
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you know.... if it's realism you want, then nitrus should be in, end of story.
not too long ago there was an "overtake" button for CART races.
 
SaintKamus
you know.... if it's realism you want, then nitrus should be in, end of story.
not too long ago there was an "overtake" button for CART races.
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this guy is right thankyou. for you idoits that think nos is unrealistic you are idiots its just not allowed in certain races. gt4 racing doesnt have that restriction therefore its realistic. doesnt have to be nfsu to have nos and you all prob think that its gunna give you this insane thrust forward or something like that. wrong its gives you a bit more power thats all.
 
people just want something to complain about or be against. it makes them feel like they are doing something or being apart of something... its all fear in the end. senseless fear. :dunce:
 
Since the series is based on simulation, surely "special" real-life reace cars will not be able to use nitrous. This will most likely not apply to classics and most cars. I'm guessing that only recent stock autos will be able to run this feature. Anyone with GT4, clear this up?
 
nitro is a drag racing tool, drag racing always reminds me of planes at the runway but lacking wings... it's a showbizz thing i guess.

new in gt5: rocket-engine strap-on.
 
Its probably just an excuse for the AIs 'interesting' speed gains every now & again ;) "Huh what?! they managed to catch up!?" now it will be "damn the AI & its infernal nitrious oxide".
 
Oh great, GT4 is going to remind me of the old school ChaseHQ, gotta press the turbo/nawz button to get your opponent. 👎

Can you imagine when the online functions become available?
There'll be so many cheating scumbags online.
 
what the hell, can people read here? NOS is not only used in drag racing but other forms of motorsport also. Your complaining before you've even played GT4...
 
Nos is definately a step in the wrong direction, apart from maybe in drag racing. Apart from the Palmer Audi series (which is practically extinct anyway) no race series, whether its circuit racing, rallying, karting etc alowes the use of nitros oxide. Reliability is probably a major factor here - Top Fuel dragsters have an engine re-build after every qtr mile, nitros oxide just places too much stress on engine componants - add this to an already highly tuned engine and i doubt you'd last a race distance. If PD had configured a reliability script into each cars programming where it would be hit or miss whether your cars engine lasts a full race distance than i would be more accepting of nos.
 
If you guys find NOS such a problem, then show your opinion and protest by not buying GT4. :indiff:
 
Do you race?
Or, as code_kev said (I think it was code), just don't use it.
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I can live with that, but if the AI uses it would be unfair. As TheCracker says hopefully they've implemented reliability (especially with nitrous).
 
TheCracker
Nos is definately a step in the wrong direction, apart from maybe in drag racing. Apart from the Palmer Audi series (which is practically extinct anyway) no race series, whether its circuit racing, rallying, karting etc alowes the use of nitros oxide. Reliability is probably a major factor here - Top Fuel dragsters have an engine re-build after every qtr mile, nitros oxide just places too much stress on engine componants - add this to an already highly tuned engine and i doubt you'd last a race distance. If PD had configured a reliability script into each cars programming where it would be hit or miss whether your cars engine lasts a full race distance than i would be more accepting of nos.
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Top Fuel dragsters do NOT use nitrous oxide, they run off of Nitromethane.


BTW, just to add to the CART thing, the overtake button increases the boost while depressed.



Anyhow, GT4 is not the FIA or any other racing body, it's simply a game, therefore, unless restricted to particular races/cars is completely realistic.
 
personally i dont mind it TOO much, though my main problem with it will be using it online/xlink. once actual online play is implemented, i sure hope theres restrictions on it, like being able to disable it and whatnot.
 
Hmm, I imagine most people won't be racing with total strangers via XLink, therefore most people will understand the rules before playing...so I really don't see that as being much of a problem.
 
it's like using the m60 online in socom 2, if a newbie uses it the others bring em hell...
we'll be going: a nitro user, let's kick his cheating ass out of our game...
AI should remain nitroless though.
 
Being on www.gtplanet.net since December 5, 2003, one such issue I've kind of examined a lot on GTPlanet in regards to GT4 is the real racing crowd vs. tuner crowd when it comes to GT4. As I've said in the past, I think Gran Turismo is about having fun, not so much getting as real as you can to real life racing. Sure. There are limitations such as no cosmetic damage, no rollovers, or whatever, but the game is all there to have fun. Even if I was desperate, I wouldn't use Nitrous Oxide in GT4. What I would do is maybe play a little arcade race or a free run using Nitrous Oxide.

I think my primary issues about this game is that... well, it's simple. I normally don't like associating the style of action in GT4 to bring back the old debate about not bringing NFSU-type action into GT4. To me, it's "just play the damn game!" I knew this would stir some anger for the game having Nitrous Oxide to begin with. I'll be more detailed in my next post granted this thread isn't closed for dumb reasons or something.
 

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