Online racing a failure?

[dhandeh]

Prologue had preset races, where you were restricted to what you could have or have not. It worked well, offering close racing consistently, I expect this to find its way to gt5 in some shape or form in due time.

 

[garbuckle]

It's a failure to me, because most online gaming is a failure: it's dependent on people being honest and respectful, which is hard to come by.

 

[AcceptYourDeath]

I saw some post and I have the feeling that some driver is not racing with stock settings... is anybody here that can confirm? thanks

You can use every car you own by adding it to favorites, and all setup options (downforce, brakes, gear, ride) are availible online if you have bought them for a car.

If the preset Xanavi Nismo 08 is choosen for example and you own this car you can`t use your Xanavi Nismo 08 and can`t adjust setup.

You can also downgrade your own cars during online gaming.

 

[neil1280]

yeah at the moment im not impressed in the slightest, but not upset, im sure p.d will sort it.

i think there needs to be gamemodes just like in c.o.d.

we would have 200-250-300-350bhp fwd, rwd etc race classes set by p/d just like cod has game modes like tdm, s&d etc even 100bhp class so you can actually put that citroen 2cv or shwimmwagen in a race and not be a waste of space in the game

 

[SCUD77]

you can have restrictions on power / weight / driver aides online its just that people who create the rooms don't bother with them, or you will find (as I have) if you create a room or change the setting's to say a 200bhp limit no one will join or most will leave.
The thing that 🤬 me off most online is people going the wrong way around the track and the text chat that slows down the car without making them shadow out.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

Online's awesome for me, that's what keep me playing GT5 atm.
Just have to choose your room, it' ssure that if you enter a room with I'm the best, or no HP restriction or demolition derby you gonna have problem. But if you find the good room you can have lots of fun. SuperGT room for once are usually very competitive, 300-350-400-450-500 up to 600 HP room are usuallly quite fun. I spend lots of time finding a room but usually I have a couple of good race each evening. Oh yeah I always disable skid recovery when I search for room. Usually room without skid recovery are more competitive and have better driver on them.

Also I love to tryout new tunes from the Tuning forum, building the car and seeing how it goes against my best car at that HP/weight ratio is very cool and entertaining for me. Doing my own Hot Video tests

 

[Parnelli Bone]

IMHO the online features are quite good.
Sure they can improve it and I am pretty sure they'll do that.

If you find the right, fair, people then it's a lot of fun.

It is my understanding that:
1) we have 52 recommended cars available to race online
2) we can add other ones selecting them from favorites (event though I never tried)
3) we cannot tune the car in the lounge (the tuning button is not active)
4) the cars are used as they are , no car upgrade available

My only doubt, at the moment is this point 4.
I saw some post and I have the feeling that some driver is not racing with stock settings... is anybody here that can confirm? thanks

I'm not sure of your question, but I regularly enter my personally-tuned vehicles in races. *shrugs* They're favorites from my garage.

 

[willstuart]

The online Aspect isn't great at the moment. I'm sure within a few months they will have it patched up and working fine. ( Fingers Crossed)

 

[sems4arsenal]

I find online really enjoyable if you know the right people the same but I rarely join because my 512 connection is apparently too low by PD's standards to I seldom don't get disconnected from the server and I get massive lag .I don't see any lag in COD nor HP3 which I got today so I am really angry at that .

 

[Mizgo]

I personally think that online go-kart racing is some of the best racing in the game, kick the boost up to high, its always competitive because all the vehicles are the same. With the boost on High, if you wreck, you can easily catch back up to the pack.

If you would like to join us, we normally play every Friday Night @ ~10 CST in a room called Kart World. The past 2 weeks we have had a field of 10-14 racers every race!

 

[dotcolin]

i love racing against people online, there are a lot of good racers out there, but at the same time there are a bunch of idiots. once i find a good room with clean drivers and a lot of restrictions in place, it gets really heated.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I don't think they're a failure at all. I can race. I get paid. I get points. If I don't like the players or regs of the room, I can search dozens of others or start my own. Sounds like a plan to me. *shrug*

Guess it helps that my server has a "very high" or "very good" connection (whatever it says). I've only had one race out of countless dozens freeze up, and I wasn't even racing, I was watching.

 

[Exorcet]

The host has too much power should all be a vote imho, at the moment they have power to set the rules to suit themselves and kick you if you are winning or richer or have better cars and crash you when you are vulnerable or defending a position/line. Example my speed 12 outhandles their rubbish prize veyron and dodges the crash attempt to take the lead then boom I get kicked. Happens too often for my liking but there are rooms out there that are respectful and race clean for the joy/fun of racing not just to win at all costs.

I disagree completely. The host should have complete power. You are free to create or join other rooms if you don't like the host's idea of racing. Allowing votes would kill good rooms. I bet finding non racing soft tire regulations would become ever harder.

There is a vote option that the host can impliment (and the host can ask for the room's opinion as I have). Things like that are OK, but creating a room only to have it overrun by other people would be a disaster.

On the original topic, online is the reason I bought the game.

IMHO the online features are quite good.
Sure they can improve it and I am pretty sure they'll do that.

If you find the right, fair, people then it's a lot of fun.

It is my understanding that:
1) we have 52 recommended cars available to race online
2) we can add other ones selecting them from favorites (event though I never tried)
3) we cannot tune the car in the lounge (the tuning button is not active)
4) the cars are used as they are , no car upgrade available

My only doubt, at the moment is this point 4.
I saw some post and I have the feeling that some driver is not racing with stock settings... is anybody here that can confirm? thanks

You can tune cars you own anyway you want. Only recommended cars cannot be tuned. The recommended car list would be good if you could set the cars. As is, I'd ditch it for more favorites. Online should have no unlocks at all. But if they're going to force you to play GT Mode, you should at least have your entire garage open online.

 

[Anghammarad]

It is a bit strange that I find myself longing for the online racing from GT5P. Why cannot PD implement a seasonal event online race where matchmaking is done with a given, untuned car for all racers.

 

[rileyra]

I or my friends have a nightly room with usually with 4-7 of us and then whoever else joins in. Had almost a full room last night running different HP restrictions each race and even a few shuffle matches. For the most part everyone got along, wasn't any crying about tires etc... If you want more restrictions than make your own room and set them. You can't expect a host to use the settings you want just because you joined their room.

Myself I don't understand the desire to want to use crappy tires for racing. The whole point of racing is to reach the goal as fast as possible is it not? I know I know "it's a simulator!" blah blah blah...No it's not. It's a racing game that has a "sim" physics engine. If it were a sim then I could pump out 700+hp out of the DC5R and not the measly 330 that the game lets me...

There is great fun to be had online, you just need to find a good group of people to play with and not worry about matching up to random baddies who don't race how you like to.

 

[1Fast335i]

My luck so far with online has been either go into a room and nothing but people having fun just screwing around usually with a couple drifters blocking the turns (but this is just fun screwing around so ok) or go into a room to race and some tard kid is rear ending you entering a turn and saying you caused a wreck and bad mouthing everyone bullying the whole room. the latter is the typical online race i've seen so no thanks, I just grind A-Spec and when I get bored of it, I'll go on to NFS or something else.
The GT5P Online Racing was actually much better IMO.
I'm even thinking of going back to GT5P.

 

[Scooter8299]

One of the best rooms I came across was hosted by "GTP_Moose_351".

Good room though he did have some words with a guy for using a X2010.

 

[bombe32]

I or my friends have a nightly room with usually with 4-7 of us and then whoever else joins in. Had almost a full room last night running different HP restrictions each race and even a few shuffle matches. For the most part everyone got along, wasn't any crying about tires etc... If you want more restrictions than make your own room and set them. You can't expect a host to use the settings you want just because you joined their room.

Myself I don't understand the desire to want to use crappy tires for racing. The whole point of racing is to reach the goal as fast as possible is it not? I know I know "it's a simulator!" blah blah blah...No it's not. It's a racing game that has a "sim" physics engine. If it were a sim then I could pump out 700+hp out of the DC5R and not the measly 330 that the game lets me...

There is great fun to be had online, you just need to find a good group of people to play with and not worry about matching up to random baddies who don't race how you like to.

No one is talking about "crappy" tyres, but tyres that matches the car's performance. Why on earth would you put soft racing tyres on a Miata, Acura RSX, RX-8 etc?

My point just is: Why do you have to find a group of people and race with them everytime? And how would you meet them, if you can't connect to any lobbies in the game? To get the most out of online racing you have to find som "events" on forums, and I hate to use a PC just to race on the PS3...

 

[rileyra]

No one is talking about "crappy" tyres, but tyres that matches the car's performance. Why on earth would you put soft racing tyres on a Miata, Acura RSX, RX-8 etc?

Faster lap times?

My point just is: Why do you have to find a group of people and race with them everytime? And how would you meet them, if you can't connect to any lobbies in the game? To get the most out of online racing you have to find som "events" on forums, and I hate to use a PC just to race on the PS3...

You don't "have to" But it's the best option given the current system. I actually like the lounge system they have now as it lets the group decide on what to do and allows you to change it up instead of having to back out of a match and find one with different restrictions...

You don't have friends from any other games? I've got several friends from local car forums and just normal real life friends that play. Then there's friends from previous ps3 games, socom, CoD, Burnout, etc... If you see someone in a game that races well then add them and then you can run against them again later... There's numerous threads in the online section with plenty of people looking for good clean racing or restriction rooms as well.

I know you said you don't want to have to use the PC to find races for the PS3 but I don't see how that is any worse or takes any more effort then using the PC to complain about things you can't do on the PS3

 

[stadti]

I'm quite happy about gt5 even though I have the feeling pd spent 4 years in designing 200 premium cars, 1,5 years to improve the physics and about 0,5 years for all the rest. I think pd just delivered a half finished game were some parts are not propperly thought through.

But back on track. I think gt5 online playing is not worse than online playing in other games. But I think in other games the people are older and not that childish and not making that much rubbish like blocking the road after a blind turn. That might be because gt5 has no age restriction. In games like cod you are legally allowed to buy/play the game with an age of >18 which may be one reason why you find a lot less children in such games. (I don't say there are no children in cod 🤬 around and ruining the game for others, but there are less). I also think that it's more likely that parents buy their kids a racing game to fool around than an ego shooter.

So gt5 is a game which is also played by a lot of kids and guess what, kids behave childish and ruine the game for adults if they want to race clean. Just think back to your childhood. Did you want to race a prius or a ***** tuned veyron. Did you want to stay on track or try do drift a turn? Would you brake for someone you don't know or try to see how far can you push him into the sand?

 

[RoadRunner99]

I'm not sure of your question, but I regularly enter my personally-tuned vehicles in races. *shrugs* They're favorites from my garage.

Yep. I could avoid the question. You are, obviously, right; I just checked yesterday. Thank you (and Exorcet who replied as well).

 

[Ghost Rydor]

I host my own lobbies, its the only way.

Restrictions I would like to see would be to disallow race cars and concept cars. That way it stops it turning into a one car race. Race cars have mods done to them that you can't match by modding a production road car. Plus it forces people to make and tune their own car instead of relying on out of the box performance.
Concept cars have many fantastical abilities that tend to dominate any given horse power bracket as well.

 

[Hig-GT]

See it is the amount of limits that puts me off, I get bored very quickly of having to swap and change cars and reducing power and then increasing the power (don't get me wrong it is not that I can't race, last time I was in such a room I won every race that night) I just want online racing to be simple, pick your favourite car and go ... I overtake people, I don't get pushed off ... Is that too much to ask?

 

[uncle_hayley_j]

People just need to learn how to drive online I feel, so annoying when someone just shunts you clean out of the way because they didn't bother breaking.

 

[rileyra]

People just need to learn how to drive online I feel, so annoying when someone just shunts you clean out of the way because they didn't bother breaking.

Ya pretty much. Gonna use a new room name of BRAKES or BAN!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Myself I don't understand the desire to want to use crappy tires for racing. The whole point of racing is to reach the goal as fast as possible is it not?

I agreed with your entire post until these sentences above. Can't speak for others, but using "crappier" tires creates a car that is more expressive, more fun to race, assuming you can handle it.

Racing on Soft slicks is fine for what it is (riding on rails most of the time), but there are other times I like taking something on the tracks that drives more like a real car on a civilian highway.

HTH

 

[AcceptYourDeath]

This new ghosting system is bullshhh... again I had a race and lost the lead just because the game decided to put my opponent right through my car.

It`s pointless to race atm as long as the game gives postions away for free.

 

[Scooter8299]

I'm quite happy about gt5 even though I have the feeling pd spent 4 years in designing 200 premium cars, 1,5 years to improve the physics and about 0,5 years for all the rest. I think pd just delivered a half finished game were some parts are not propperly thought through.

But back on track. I think gt5 online playing is not worse than online playing in other games. But I think in other games the people are older and not that childish and not making that much rubbish like blocking the road after a blind turn. That might be because gt5 has no age restriction. In games like cod you are legally allowed to buy/play the game with an age of >18 which may be one reason why you find a lot less children in such games. (I don't say there are no children in cod 🤬 around and ruining the game for others, but there are less). I also think that it's more likely that parents buy their kids a racing game to fool around than an ego shooter.

So gt5 is a game which is also played by a lot of kids and guess what, kids behave childish and ruine the game for adults if they want to race clean. Just think back to your childhood. Did you want to race a prius or a ***** tuned veyron. Did you want to stay on track or try do drift a turn? Would you brake for someone you don't know or try to see how far can you push him into the sand?

Hey, i'm a child and you don't see me 🤬 off people.

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

The thing with the online is that the idea is very good, but there are just too many problems and it feels unfinished. The penalty system and ghosting is ridiculously inconsistent. For some reason, it feels like the only physics and GT life physics are 2 separate entities. Online, it feels like your car has less grip, poorer breaking, and more understeer compared to offline.

The biggest problem is really the lack of variety. There are 2 game modes, and shuffle mode is fun but limited at best. Unfortunately, a lot of your online experience depends on the host. If the host only cares about winning, then he doesn't care about cheaters, punters etc.