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Was that along the motorways?

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So now that I'm home, I need to have a look at the auction house. And the next time I'm on the AutoTrader website I'll be taking it more seriously. I'm noticing a lot of Almeras on the roads now that I'm considering them, but I'm still somewhat skeptical about insurance. For any car.

Although I do have to chuckle to myself when my mum suggests a £700 Corsa/Saxo/tin of sardines from the local chopshop.
 
Fabia's are pretty good, I remember looking at a 52 or so example, though that was poverty spec.

Did you ever get a quote on the 309?

I couldn't get classic insurance when I looked, the ones I found had a 25 year old minimum. What ever you get though, you're getting shafted, unfortunately.
 
Did you ever get a quote on the 309?

Yes. 3FT was £3,500 and fully comp wasn't any easier to swallow.

But that's using a 3rd party comparison website for a first time policy. I'm sure you respectable, older guys would get a much cheaper quote.
 
Stumbling block: Mother insists I have a car with the displacement as large and powerful as a foot massager. She's open to a Fabia, but an Almera is too damn dangerous, apparently. 1.4 is the smallest N15 Almera, and I'm doing my best to convince her that it is affordable, which it is.

She sort of doesn't believe that I just want to drive, not drive fast, which is absolutely true. Anyone with sense knows track days are for driving like you're Steve Soper.

Also, since coming home all the Civics have suddenly been sold. Weird.
 
The 1.4i Almera does have a little bit more poke than the usual 1.2 Clio but it's also a bit bigger than the rest of them and made of hard wearing Japanese steel and not French fairy dust and dreams.

Makes motorway driving, relatively, more bearable.

[EDIT] Also point out the back seats are "spacious" even in the 3 door and the cargo space with the back seats down is ever so practical, honest!
 
If you're being forced into something truly slow, have a look at some of the non-turbo diesel Skoda Fabias (/VW Polos/SEAT Ibizas), or old Citroen/Peugeots. Insurance groups are usually low because of the lack of turbocharger, and unlike modern turbodiesels which can be ruinous when they go wrong, the slightly older-tech ones can be fixed with the blunt end of a hammer. They're all tractorish but you'll get 50mpg all day long and they last forever and a day.

And it's still a car at the end of the day so you can have surprising fun with them. The non-turbo diesel Citroen ZX I drove to Spain and back was still a nice little handler. Without four guys, spares and a load of luggage on board it would even have felt reasonably nippy.
 
It's a Citroen, even the petrol one would had struggled! What about Starlets? Old KP6x's might still be kicking around and due to age they might've avoided the chavs crashing them despite of light RWD platform.
 
The 1.4i Almera does have a little bit more poke than the usual 1.2 Clio but it's also a bit bigger than the rest of them and made of hard wearing Japanese steel and not French fairy dust and dreams.

I've been crusading the cause of Nissan Sunderland, even though assembly is in Japan, in my efforts to promote the Almera. As well as providing anecdotal evidence of how Clios, 106s and Saxos rust in a light breeze.

[EDIT] Also point out the back seats are "spacious" even in the 3 door and the cargo space with the back seats down is ever so practical, honest!

I've gazed at some N15s and N16s and they seem more spacious than my friend's Gen II Clio. Some boot space would be nice, but it's not a deal meaker.

If you're being forced into something truly slow, have a look at some of the non-turbo diesel Skoda Fabias (/VW Polos/SEAT Ibizas), or old Citroen/Peugeots.

I'm winning my battle for an Almera. A Fabia would be my second choice, but my mum really wants me to have a Toyota Aygo and nothing more. But as I say, an Almera is actually what I want and what I probably will get.

There are plenty of old duffers driving them who should kindly give their N15 to me!

Insurance groups are usually low because of the lack of turbocharger, and unlike modern turbodiesels which can be ruinous when they go wrong, the slightly older-tech ones can be fixed with the blunt end of a hammer. They're all tractorish but you'll get 50mpg all day long and they last forever and a day.

I was nowhere near considering a turbo. But thanks for the pointer on old turbos.

And it's still a car at the end of the day so you can have surprising fun with them. The non-turbo diesel Citroen ZX I drove to Spain and back was still a nice little handler. Without four guys, spares and a load of luggage on board it would even have felt reasonably nippy.

A car is indeed a car, but unlike almost all of my friends, to me they are more than point-to-point modes of transportation. But we'll see what happens. I'm quitely confident of a 1.4 first-gen Almera.

This has caught my eye, as it happens.
 
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I've been crusading the cause of Nissan Sunderland, even though assembly is in Japan, in my efforts to promote the Almera. As well as providing anecdotal evidence of how Clios, 106s and Saxos rust in a light breeze.

That's actually a little unfair. French stuff built since about the mid 80s is pretty rust-resistant. Far more so than BMWs, Mercedes, Hondas (and most other Japanese stuff), anything made by Ford or Vauxhall, and a lot of other stuff. French cars are more likely to shed panels than the panels are to get rusty.

On a related note, Fiats and Alfas are also non-rusty since about the 90s, contrary to their 1970s/1980s reputation. I think the poor reputations meant they went wild with the galvanising so they're massively rust-protected now.

A car is indeed a car, but unlike almost all of my friends, to me they are more than point-to-point modes of transportation.

Oh yeah, not saying you should deliberately go for something dull, but the ZX I mentioned is actually quite a decent choice, even with that diesel engine - it's basically a Peugeot 306 in different clothes. I'd prefer the 306 itself (still a better looking hatchback than anything Peugeot has produced since) but they're both cars you can have fun with on a twisty road.

Of course, the Almera was always praised for its handling too.


Insurance companies would likely run a mile - 2-litres is a bit large for first car territory. They'd even get a bit squiffy over the 1.6 model unfortunately.

My dad's 1.4 diesel Citroen AX struggled to make it up hills!

The 1.9s are a bit better - we made it over the Pyrenees four-up, after all. About 70-ish horsepower. I mean, it's still one of the slowest things I've driven, but only ranked alongside my own first car, which was a 60bhp Ford Fiesta. And next to my Beetle it's a top-fuel dragster...
 
The red Almera was a no-go, but there's a better, silver one near by.

In the meantime, I'm off to the car auctions tonight. Worth a look. Could find a few bargains, perhaps.
 
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