Oversteer trouble after starting on G27

[KiroKai]

I'm playing GT5 for more than 2 years now, since release. Always driven on DS3, and always used a controller on PS2/PC. After starting out on my new G27 (got it on Christmas) I really enjoyed simple driving in cars like a stock GT86 again, which got pretty lame with my DS3 in the past months as the game got old and the vibration trigger in my DS3 is broken. But besides realistic driving/cruising, of course I want to be competitive on racing again soon, and I have some trouble there. Besides the usual beginner problems which will improve with practice and time, I have huge trouble handling oversteer/drifting, which annoys me because pretty much every time I lose grip on the rear, I spin out, which ends my race if it's a competitive one.
I saw it mentioned in another thread by another user new to the G27, and I met more people with similar trouble online in GT5 lobbies.

My problem is that the moment the rear tyres lose grip, I either spin out right away, or countersteer so much that I end up spinning in the opposite direction. I also don't know how to control the throttle. Of course lifting off should help to control the slide, but I usually lift off either too few or too much. A weej ago I've put in 30 laps on Tsukuba in a stock M3 on comfort tyres and couldn't hold a single clean slide.

I also didn't find wheel settings I'm really comfortable with yet. I started out on force feedback set to 7 the first day, which gives me a realistic feel when driving, but slows down my turning of the wheel too much to successfully fight oversteer. I tried anything from 1 to 10 and currently have set it to 6, though when I go on track to practise drifting in particular I usually lower it to 4 after a few laps.
I'm also not decided whenever to use or not use the power assist for steering. I'm quite weak to be honest and driving without the assist is quite exhausting for me after about half an hour. Also, since I'm too young to drive cars, I never felt how a real servo-supported steering feels, is it rather like G27 with the assist on or off?

Would love to hear tips on those settings. Also, any other car/track combination recommended to practise this without getting incredibly pissed off?

 

[Dean]

Try building up the throttle-power slowly. It works for me.

 

[Racin-Rev]

I had the same issue when I switched from Controller to G27 in May 2012 after using a controller since I began GT in 1998. I had to change some of my tunes and relearn steering controls. My initial learning curve was 3-4 weeks. The G27 makes the game so much more interesting and fun, but it takes time and practice. Stay with it. It is frustrating at first because you think you should be able to just jump in and automatically be faster and smoother. That does come but only with practice, practice, practice. It is more than worth it

It helped me to use some of Praiano's Tunes https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201649

I also used the tunes from multiple tuners on AdrenaTune site
https://sites.google.com/site/gt5tune/

Cheers Mate

 

[KiroKai]

Try building up the throttle-power slowly. It works for me.

To prevent spinning out of control or to hold the slide?

I had the same issue when I switched from Controller to G27 in May 2012 after using a controller since I began GT in 1998. I had to change some of my tunes and relearn steering controls. My initial learning curve was 3-4 weeks. The G27 makes the game so much more interesting and fun, but it takes time and practice. Stay with it. It is frustrating at first because you think you should be able to just jump in and automatically be faster and smoother. That does come but only with practice, practice, practice. It is more than worth it

It helped me to use some of Praiano's Tunes https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201649

I also used the tunes from multiple tuners on AdrenaTune site
https://sites.google.com/site/gt5tune/

Cheers Mate

Thanks, it's a good idea to try out tuned cars, I mainly drove stock cars on the G27 so far but it might well be a help/motivation to use cars driving better than stock.

 

[playnthru]

Hello my friend.

Using a wheel takes practice (lots of practice). The problems you describe are common to many new wheel users. Take your time, it will all come with practice and patience.

Feel free to ask me questions anytime.👍

Thanks mate.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Mucho practice. And you'll find that most cars, if you lift as you are about to slide or beginning a slide, will actually increase the oversteer. The game is simulating a weight shift as you lift the throttle, tossing some of the weight and grip to the front of the car and off the back.

One of the common ways to control entry oversteer is with a slight amount of throttle. On the Nurb for example you have many neutral corners but a few that are oversteery and a few that are understeery. On the oversteery ones, using a little throttle on entry helps to keep the back end stable and not lose grip. Many tracks have one or two corners like this and it pays to learn which ones they are and how to handle them with a car then tends to slight oversteer, which is fastest in my opinion.

If you are sliding uncontrollably into corners you are probably entering them too fast. Try slowing down, and turning your brake balances down to 3/2, to help eliminate the oversteer cause by weight shift under braking.

 

[KiroKai]

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Feel free to ask me questions anytime.👍

Thanks mate.

I will! Thanks to you.

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Thanks for the tips, and yes corner speed might be my problem sometimes, I'll try to watch it when driving next time. I remember that once I tried to get more control and less speeds when drifting on controller I hugely improved and could hold drifts way better than I did before.

Also, I usually use brake balance 5/5 or lower, especially when not going full speed, the brake feels more progressive then. I'll try 3/2.

One thing though, I'm not looking to avoid countersteer, well at the moment I do because I cannot deal with it yet, but long term wise I'd rather like to be able to hold drifts when they happen instead.


Would you rather recommend to start practise on Comfort Hard or Soft? Or even Sports Hard tyres?

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'd recommend 400PP CS and 450 SH to learn car control. It's enough grip so that you aren't on your toes constantly, but not so much grip that you can just go around the corners on rails. Start somewhere simple and flat like Tsukuba. It's got two tight hairpins, a medium sized hairpin and big sweeper with lots of hard braking. Stick to premium RWD cars at first. MR's rotate a bit too much for learning purposes, and FF's and 4WD's don't rotate enough.

Running repeated laps will help you get a hold of things and you can adjust tires or PP from there.

 

[seanneedscar]

Recovering a spin is much harder with a wheel than it is with a controller

but since you can modulate the throttle, overall, oversteer avoidance is reduced

if there were a bane to using a wheel, that would be it

 

[LeadFootLiam]

Its a balancing act. I have a G27 as well.

When my car breaks loose, big time, I let the wheel slide through my hands, when I feel the car start to striaghten out I then gradually straighten the wheel. Throttle control is also very important. Best to take you foot off the gas pedal if you do not want to initiate a drift.

It also depends with the tires you are using.

Racing tires requires you to countersteer very fast, you have to be quick.

With sports tires you still have to be quick, but not as much.

Like I said its a balacning act.

Keep PRACTICING!

Enjoy your wheel.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Its a balancing act. I have a G27 as well.

When my car breaks loose, big time, I let the wheel slide through my hands, when I feel the car start to striaghten out I then gradually straighten the wheel. Throttle control is also very important. Best to take you foot off the gas pedal if you do not want to initiate a drift.

It also depends with the tires you are using.

Racing tires requires you to countersteer very fast, you have to be quick.

With sports tires you still have to be quick, but not as much.

Like I said its a balacning act.

Keep PRACTICING!

Enjoy your wheel.

Not trying to be disagreeable, but taking your foot completely off the gas is not what you should do with big oversteer. Having a small amount of throttle, like 10-20% actually helps with oversteer. If you go too far with it, you're right you'll lose even more rear grip, but just that small amount of throttle really helps to stabilize the back end and bring it around. When you get the hang of it, it's actually about the fastest way to get around a many corners, to kick the back end out slightly and then power on the throttle to control the slide.

I tried to do it with my DFGT for two years and was inconsistent at best, the throttle control was not good enough. But with the G27 it's pretty much linear with input and making fine adjustments to throttle is much easier. On tracks like the Nurb it's absolutely invaluable.

EDIT: Just noticed I said most of this stuff up above...doh!!!

 

[LeadFootLiam]

Not trying to be disagreeable, but taking your foot completely off the gas is not what you should do with big oversteer. Having a small amount of throttle, like 10-20% actually helps with oversteer. If you go too far with it, you're right you'll lose even more rear grip, but just that small amount of throttle really helps to stabilize the back end and bring it around. When you get the hang of it, it's actually about the fastest way to get around a many corners, to kick the back end out slightly and then power on the throttle to control the slide.

I tried to do it with my DFGT for two years and was inconsistent at best, the throttle control was not good enough. But with the G27 it's pretty much linear with input and making fine adjustments to throttle is much easier. On tracks like the Nurb it's absolutely invaluable.

EDIT: Just noticed I said most of this stuff up above...doh!!!

When learning it is best to let off the gas, for me I always mash the throttle. lol

 

[byegad]

I found that when I changed to a DFGT I had to re tune the suspension on all of my cars. I had all my cars set to oversteer to make the DS3 easier to use! I was level 38, IIRC, using the DS3 and it took me a couple of weeks to adapt to the wheel. I wouldn't change back.

Don't give up once you have adapted you'll love the wheel.👍

 

[Nicko]

You might find it beneficial to practice using the 'active steering' aid set on. Apparently this aid is useful to correct automatic oversteer movements from the car without input from the driver.

 

[Olegonic]

No one's tune can learn you to drift. It is too early to relay on someone's tune as it is for improvement only.
Go to time trial on TGTT and try doing donuts. Increase the radius, time being in the circle drift.
Then try to straighten you car after circle drift into a straight line.
Then try to make 8 shaped drifts, which will teach you for transition from one side to another. Go on a long straight, and just fool around, drift, slide, throw your car, whatever, FEEL the FEEDBACK FORCE which is A KEY and your input only about car's front wheels positioning.
Don't give up, it will come at one moment like a CLICK. It's like learning to ride a bicycle.
The most difficult part, I expect will be straightening a car after a corner and transitions.
GOOD luck!

 

[OK8]

People have already pointed out many things I was going to post in this thread, but here's a few things I could think of:

I also don't know how to control the throttle. Of course lifting off should help to control the slide, but I usually lift off either too few or too much.

In a more real situation, the best tools you have to combat a slide are lifting off the throttle slightly (not all the way) and countersteering. The fastest way to get the car back in check is a combination of these two; lift off a little bit and counter steer a little bit.

In GT5 this doesn't always apply, since lifting the throttle has weird consequences. Many times you can hold the throttle flat and just countersteer and the car will still come back to you, so maybe concentrate more on the movement of your hands.

I also didn't find wheel settings I'm really comfortable with yet. I started out on force feedback set to 7 the first day, which gives me a realistic feel when driving, but slows down my turning of the wheel too much to successfully fight oversteer.

Now here's the problem! If you find you're fighting against the force feedback when you're trying to correct a slide, you've done something wrong. When correcting a slide, I'm never fighting the wheel, always letting it run between my fingers and settle into a good angle from which I can start controlling the slide using the wheel and throttle.

It's exactly how liampage123 said it.

When my car breaks loose, big time, I let the wheel slide through my hands, when I feel the car start to striaghten out I then gradually straighten the wheel.

I'm also not decided whenever to use or not use the power assist for steering. I'm quite weak to be honest and driving without the assist is quite exhausting for me after about half an hour. Also, since I'm too young to drive cars, I never felt how a real servo-supported steering feels, is it rather like G27 with the assist on or off?

I don't think power assisted steering is a good idea. If you find your wrists are hurting (which is a good thing, means your wheel is still strong and has a lot of life left in it) try lowering the FFB setting a bit and try to find the ideal setting at which you get a lot of feedback but don't get too exhausted.

The G27 is a great wheel, and if you stick with it you can really get a lot out of this game.

Here's also a video which shows some wheel handling. I hope watching it will give you some tips. For countersteering it's important to learn a natural way to place your hands around the wheel, so you can maintain your hands at an optimal position even when the wheel might be turned 180 degrees.



Also at 2:15 you can see what me and liampage123 were talking about; loosening your grip of the wheel and letting the FFB turn it.

It's also not a bad idea to practice drifting itself. Once you know how to slide, you'll know what stops a slide and how to control it better. Pick a track with wide sweeping corners (Fuji for example) and practice holding the car in balance while drifting around a corner.

 

[MasterDriver]

Once you begin to slide, turn the wheel Instantly!

It takes time and patience to build up your hand skills with a wheel. The hand actions are the exact same as in a car, however, since you can't feel the G-force of a car, you will have to supplement that with intuition. I started using a wheel in GT4 (that was rough, had huge snap-oversteer). GT5 has made it much more life-life (easier). Still, the concepts of hand movements and throttle movements apply.

These are real life skills, not how fast I can mash the Square button in a fighting game. lol.

 

[FordPrefect]

I´ve recently (as in like 2 weeks ago) started playing GT5, and I´m having similar problems keeping the cars under control once the back starts to slide. I usually lose it when it starts to turn back the other direktion. I´m using the DFP that I used to play GT4 with, but I´m having a pretty hard time... Mind you I´ve been practising with the game, and I´m perfectly capable of driving round the real world Nordschleife in an FR car in under 9 minutes, so I know what inputs I should be giving, but whenever I do manage to hold a slide it seems like more of a happy accident.

Is there something wrong with my wheel after it was gathering dust for a couple of years? Or is the DFP simply too old for GT5? I´m not sure if I´m willing to spend a couple hundred € on a G27... Am I just an idiot?

 

[KiroKai]

Sorry for leaving this thread without replying the past half month. I'm still practising now and then when I feel like going for it, the frustration is still there but it slooooowly becomes less.
Thanks to everyone for your replies, reading them and trying the suggestions surely helped so far! 👍

I'd recommend 400PP CS and 450 SH to learn car control.
...
Running repeated laps will help you get a hold of things and you can adjust tires or PP from there.

Thanks for the tyre advices. Talking about learning driving in FR cars on simple tracks like Tsukuba, I might redo the MX-5 4 hours endurance on it, since I won it before I could just lean back and practise (and enjoy) the driving & drifting itself in a properly powered MX-5.

I found that when I changed to a DFGT I had to re tune the suspension on all of my cars.

Despite being not too great at tuning myself, changing setups certainly helped, still got a lot of room to improve there as well though.

You might find it beneficial to practice using the 'active steering' aid set on. Apparently this aid is useful to correct automatic oversteer movements from the car without input from the driver.

I did use this aid on high power rear wheel drive the past weeks in races to have any chance, but since most rooms ban that aid (or, if they don't, they are most likely the typical 400hp streetcar on soft race tyres crap) this is only a part-solution.
Also, about half of the races I used this aid I leaned too much on it and ended up spinning again, because once the oversteer wheelspin kicked in I wasn't quick enough (or if I was ended up spinning the other direction again).

Go to time trial on TGTT and try doing donuts. Increase the radius, time being in the circle drift.
Then try to straighten you car after circle drift into a straight line.
Then try to make 8 shaped drifts, which will teach you for transition from one side to another. Go on a long straight, and just fool around, drift, slide, throw your car, whatever, FEEL the FEEDBACK FORCE which is A KEY and your input only about car's front wheels positioning.
Don't give up, it will come at one moment like a CLICK. It's like learning to ride a bicycle.
The most difficult part, I expect will be straightening a car after a corner and transitions.
GOOD luck!

Thanks, I had two goes at this and will do again on comfort hard tyres at around 420PP, first two goes were in a stock M3 on comfort medium tyres.
I also experienced the transitions/straightening out to be the biggest problem once I manage to hold a slide. I'm either too late spinning into the opposite direction or I manage to keep it stable ending the slide, but still struggle so much I can't get a clean transition. Good thing damage doesn't matter in this game...
The 'click' feel is exactly what I'm after. Once I get past the first difficulty mountain it will be cake to continue. At least that's what I want to learn like. I still remember elementary school, when we started to learn reading, one day I just started to read quick and could even read out without stuttering which I did when I read texts out up to that point. That gave me a huge motivation bump on learning things back then. Now this might not be very comparable, but still, I think you get my idea.

Many times you can hold the throttle flat and just countersteer and the car will still come back to you, so maybe concentrate more on the movement of your hands.

Doing this I usually end up spinning opposite way because of too much wheelspin/power still going to the wheels while I'm trying to stabilize.

Now here's the problem! If you find you're fighting against the force feedback when you're trying to correct a slide, you've done something wrong. When correcting a slide, I'm never fighting the wheel, always letting it run between my fingers and settle into a good angle from which I can start controlling the slide using the wheel and throttle.

I came to do the same by now, but still a lot of times I don't know when the point of countersteer is reached where I grab the wheel and hold it at that angle, and when I remotely get that thing right I usually barely realize I did before the slides ends and I spin.

I don't think power assisted steering is a good idea. If you find your wrists are hurting (which is a good thing, means your wheel is still strong and has a lot of life left in it) try lowering the FFB setting a bit and try to find the ideal setting at which you get a lot of feedback but don't get too exhausted.

Playing around with the settings I came to prefer force feedback at 5 and steering assist turned on for racing to react quick, I know that no assist probably gives a rather proper feedback feeling but I just feel like it's taking too much power to be useful in racing for me.
While cruising however (which I do a lot as well), I came to prefer it off, although it's a pain at low speed, it's fun to fight the wheel a bit while barely driving above city speeds (and makes the whole thing more interesting to me).

The G27 is a great wheel, and if you stick with it you can really get a lot out of this game.

Here's also a video which shows some wheel handling. I hope watching it will give you some tips. For countersteering it's important to learn a natural way to place your hands around the wheel, so you can maintain your hands at an optimal position even when the wheel might be turned 180 degrees.

[Video]

Also at 2:15 you can see what me and liampage123 were talking about; loosening your grip of the wheel and letting the FFB turn it.

Interesting to watch an experienced wheel user, I might record myself while driving/drifting to compare (or see if I do anything obviously wrong).

It's also not a bad idea to practice drifting itself. Once you know how to slide, you'll know what stops a slide and how to control it better. Pick a track with wide sweeping corners (Fuji for example) and practice holding the car in balance while drifting around a corner.

To be honest I hate Fuji Speedway to drift, always hated it on controller and now I still would put it least in my list of tracks I like to drive on, because it has so many height transitions and the lack of orientation mostly just irritates me.
However, the basic idea of using a wide track and trying to drift freely there is a good one which I did a lot, it's most fun doing it online with friends when they use G27s too and practise (and do same mistakes as me, making me feel less stupid ).

Once you begin to slide, turn the wheel Instantly!

These are real life skills, not how fast I can mash the Square button in a fighting game. lol.

So you turn the wheel to countersteer yourself? When I start a slide/drift on purpose I usually let the wheel slide into countersteer position itself, if needed giving it a push into counter direction than grabbing it when I expect the angle to be fine, than when I try to straighten out I'm usually screwing up trying to let it go into normal position itself because it doesn't do that, yet I'm also mixing up hand movements when I try to manually get it back straight... thinking about it I don't really know how exactly I do it, this might be my origin of spinning so often, I'll definitely have to record myself drifting than check what I'm doing...

I´ve recently (as in like 2 weeks ago) started playing GT5, and I´m having similar problems keeping the cars under control once the back starts to slide. I usually lose it when it starts to turn back the other direktion. I´m using the DFP that I used to play GT4 with, but I´m having a pretty hard time... Mind you I´ve been practising with the game, and I´m perfectly capable of driving round the real world Nordschleife in an FR car in under 9 minutes, so I know what inputs I should be giving, but whenever I do manage to hold a slide it seems like more of a happy accident.

The wheel should be pretty fun unless there's something obviously damaged as in turning the wheel or pressing pedals wouldn't work properly, and it is not too old for GT5, although you might find newer Logitech wheels to be better overall.
You'll probably have to get used to Gran Turismo 5's physics. Although you seem to have plenty of real experience and played GTs before (both will certainly help your skills in the game) it's still a game, not exactly giving the feel like a real car, especially things like G forces that give a lot of feedback in a real car just aren't there how you'd expect them.
Advices given by members in this thread might help you greatly as well. 👍

 

[fifomaniak]

Hello friend, I see you have a problem here. You could've asked me somewhere, I have G27, too, earlier had a DFGT

A lot of practice is definitely needed. Turn every assist off apart from ABS for beginning, don't use shifter and clutch as it is more things to learn at once.

Start with not very powerful well-balanced FR car on a tight track, maybe create a Toscana asphalt track with course maker with tight bends or some Kart custom track or Kart Space?

Also, in my opinion, use CH or CM tires, less the grip, better the progression, less snappier they are while getting the grip back.

Wet tracks might be also a good idea, cause at the beginning you really wanna go slowly to have more time to react. Eiger w/ rain?

Cars I'd suggest would be in order: Miata, then BR-Z/GT86, then standard M3 CSL, then maybe XKR premium. All have smooth power deliveries and are well balanced, they are pretty easy for going sideways for stock cars in my opinion. Avoid cars with turbos.

For the FFB, it's personal liking, but I use it on 2 without power steering assist. Higher settings are too brutal force, you really don't have that much feedback in real cars with power steering. This settings gives you more than enough information if you can feel it, but you don't have to fight the wheel.

Be smooth with everything. It is the key. Throttle reactions have too be smooth, wheel movement. You can't just spin the wheel without any control. And you can't just wave the gas pedal, it will cause sudden traction for rear wheels and you won't be able to react in time.

If you're haveing trouble ending the slide properly, you're too late with straightening the wheel. Wheels should be pointing where you wanna go, so at the end, you should have it straight. It is the moment where you have to fight the FFB a little bit, if you'll let it straighten your wheel, it'll be too late, and you'll snap the car in other direction. That's why I recommend lower FFB. Maybe this video will help you, he knows what he's doing and he doesn't talk too much, but you can put it on the road and in GT5 too:



Cheers, mate. Ask me more if you want to 👍

 

[TwistyDrift]

First at least change your wheel settings I have mine on

Simulation Mode
Power Assist - Off
Force Feedback - 10

You have to get the right setup or else it is going to be a major set back. It took me about 2-3 weeks. At first I was so frustrated because I kept over steering or getting the slide wrong which is why I stopped and went back to DS3 but I had to get it right with the wheel because I paid for it. So I started and just practiced, practiced and practiced. You can get advice but you have to give a lot of time to actually become a good drifter on wheel.

 

[SubaruWRC555]

I'm playing GT5 for more than 2 years now, since release. Always driven on DS3, and always used a controller on PS2/PC. After starting out on my new G27 (got it on Christmas) I really enjoyed simple driving in cars like a stock GT86 again, which got pretty lame with my DS3 in the past months as the game got old and the vibration trigger in my DS3 is broken. But besides realistic driving/cruising, of course I want to be competitive on racing again soon, and I have some trouble there. Besides the usual beginner problems which will improve with practice and time, I have huge trouble handling oversteer/drifting, which annoys me because pretty much every time I lose grip on the rear, I spin out, which ends my race if it's a competitive one.
I saw it mentioned in another thread by another user new to the G27, and I met more people with similar trouble online in GT5 lobbies.

My problem is that the moment the rear tyres lose grip, I either spin out right away, or countersteer so much that I end up spinning in the opposite direction. I also don't know how to control the throttle. Of course lifting off should help to control the slide, but I usually lift off either too few or too much. A weej ago I've put in 30 laps on Tsukuba in a stock M3 on comfort tyres and couldn't hold a single clean slide.

I also didn't find wheel settings I'm really comfortable with yet. I started out on force feedback set to 7 the first day, which gives me a realistic feel when driving, but slows down my turning of the wheel too much to successfully fight oversteer. I tried anything from 1 to 10 and currently have set it to 6, though when I go on track to practise drifting in particular I usually lower it to 4 after a few laps.
I'm also not decided whenever to use or not use the power assist for steering. I'm quite weak to be honest and driving without the assist is quite exhausting for me after about half an hour. Also, since I'm too young to drive cars, I never felt how a real servo-supported steering feels, is it rather like G27 with the assist on or off?

Would love to hear tips on those settings. Also, any other car/track combination recommended to practise this without getting incredibly pissed off?

Hey Kai what's up!! Anyway. You can also try this!! When you to do a race, go in to the driving options menu. Then go down to controller sensitivity. Make it -2 and see if that helps. I previously had mine set a 7.

Let me know if that works for ya any!!

 

[Johnnypenso]

First at least change your wheel settings I have mine on

Simulation Mode
Power Assist - Off
Force Feedback - 10

You have to get the right setup or else it is going to be a major set back. It took me about 2-3 weeks. At first I was so frustrated because I kept over steering or getting the slide wrong which is why I stopped and went back to DS3 but I had to get it right with the wheel because I paid for it. So I started and just practiced, practiced and practiced. You can get advice but you have to give a lot of time to actually become a good drifter on wheel.

Hey Kai what's up!! Anyway. You can also try this!! When you to do a race, go in to the driving options menu. Then go down to controller sensitivity. Make it -2 and see if that helps. I previously had mine set a 7.

Let me know if that works for ya any!!

Just my opinion but I wouldn't recommend setting Force Feedback to 10 while you are learning. I'd recommend something a little more middle of the road like 4 or 5, to allow for easier movement and quicker reaction time, while you get used to the wheel.

Steering sensitivity doesn't work with the wheel....controller only.

 

[playnthru]

Don't tell that last part to drifters YO..They swear they feel "some" difference. Even though PD clearly states NO...controller only ...Silly drifters.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Don't tell that last part to drifters YO..They swear they feel "some" difference. Even though PD clearly states NO...controller only ...Silly drifters.

I forgot to mention, "Simulation Mode" doesn't work with G27 either..although lots of people swear it does...lol..

 

[SubaruWRC555]

Just my opinion but I wouldn't recommend setting Force Feedback to 10 while you are learning. I'd recommend something a little more middle of the road like 4 or 5, to allow for easier movement and quicker reaction time, while you get used to the wheel.

Steering sensitivity doesn't work with the wheel....controller only.

Well explain to me why me and two of my other buddy's with G27's made the change to -2 and felt a huge difference. It works!!! If you don't have a wheel then don't try to make me out to be a dunce when I have my facts in order!!

 

[Johnnypenso]

Well explain to me why me and two of my other buddy's with G27's made the change to -2 and felt a huge difference. It works!!! If you don't have a wheel then don't try to make me out to be a dunce when I have my facts in order!!

I've had two different wheels in fact and it doesn't work with wheels. Sony itself also says it only works with a controller...it's all in your head. Lots of people swear the "Simulation" mode works as well, when it's clear that it doesn't.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I've had two different wheels in fact and it doesn't work with wheels. Sony itself also says it only works with a controller...it's all in your head.

This 100% true. This setting has absolutely no affect on the DFGT/G25/G27/Thrustmaster.

Also it amazes me that no one reads the description scrolling on the bottom of the screen that confirms this too hahaha. Like people thinking that simulation setting in the options menu applies to the DFGT/G25/G27/Thrustmaster I'm which it has no affect either

 

[TwistyDrift]

I forgot to mention, "Simulation Mode" doesn't work with G27 either..although lots of people swear it does...lol..

Nah lol, never really thought it did. I only put it in Simulation mode because it sounds pro'ish. It only works with the highlighted wheels.

 

[SubaruWRC555]

Whatever you guys say. It's not all in my head and I know for a fact it works for me. Not gonna sit here and argue with yins about it!!

If you are looking for some help with the steering then try the controller setting at -2 in the driving options and see what you think!!