Oversteer vs Understeer: Which One Do You Prefer?

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Oversteer vs Understeer

  • Oversteer

    Votes: 388 85.3%

  • Understeer

    Votes: 67 14.7%
  • Total voters
    455
What do you mean by snap oversteer? And if you put Racing Hard tires on the rear and Racing Soft tires on the front, Will the car oversteer? Also, the car should be easier to control, right? Because Racing hard tires have more grip than comfort hard tires, right?

Sorry for asking lots of questions.
 
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I like oversteer, because you can go corners faster with it. With understeer you just crash. Besides oversteer doesn't cause any problems if it doesn't come up in the middle of the curve.
 
Ferrari_1996
What do you mean by snap oversteer? And if you put Racing Hard tires on the rear and Racing Soft tires on the front, Will the car oversteer? Also, the car should be easier to control, right? Because Racing hard tires have more grip than comfort hard tires, right?

Sorry for asking lots of questions.
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Well, let's see, I'm not sure what snap oversteer is exactly, but I suspect it's when the car suddenly, without much prior warning, slides its rear end out.

If you put racing hards in the back and racing softs up front, yes, it will oversteer, the traction will break on the less grippy tires first, which are on the back, before the front, resulting in the rear end rotating out.

It will not necessarily be easier to control. Yes, it will corner faster, but if it was balanced before, it won't be now.
 
Rykon Zero
Well, let's see, I'm not sure what snap oversteer is exactly, but I suspect it's when the car suddenly, without much prior warning, slides its rear end out.

If you put racing hards in the back and racing softs up front, yes, it will oversteer, the traction will break on the less grippy tires first, which are on the back, before the front, resulting in the rear end rotating out.

It will not necessarily be easier to control. Yes, it will corner faster, but if it was balanced before, it won't be now.
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What I meant was it will be easier to control than racing soft front, comfort hards back (read post in 9th Page).
 
Caz
Snap oversteer = driver throttle error. I prefer a car that is slightly on the understeering side but that you can break free with the throttle ( snap oversteer ;) )
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It can also be the camber settings. If the tires start to lean on their sidewalls the grip loss could be sudden.
 
Ferrari_1996
What I meant was it will be easier to control than racing soft front, comfort hards back (read post in 9th Page).
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No that's too much rs/rm is ok but a gap anymore than that say rs/rh or more will be a lot harder to control, your goal when racing is to have an equally balanced car whether a little tight or a little loose, as long as it's equal you are fine (to a point) i would not bother with changing out tires, but with the playing with the suspension. If you add camber, there is more contact between the tire and the surface in the turns but less on the straights, this results in more grip in the corners and less in the straights but should't hurt straight speed too much unless you are doing ssr7. This adds grip to the area of the car that you changed. Let's say you added camber to a car that had a considerable amount of understeer, that understeer is likely to disappear but too much creates oversteer, then you can adjust rear camber
 
Rykon Zero
Well, let's see, I'm not sure what snap oversteer is exactly, but I suspect it's when the car suddenly, without much prior warning, slides its rear end out.

If you put racing hards in the back and racing softs up front, yes, it will oversteer, the traction will break on the less grippy tires first, which are on the back, before the front, resulting in the rear end rotating out.

It will not necessarily be easier to control. Yes, it will corner faster, but if it was balanced before, it won't be now.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift-off_oversteer
 
ugabugaz
Seriously?
Honestly whenever I've driven my Yellowbird, it has always under-steered oh so playfully. What is this witchcraft over-steer you're referring to?
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Are you dizzy? The RUF yellowbird is an oversteerer. Do you know what oversteer is? And if you don't believe me hopefully another GTP member will tell you that the Yellowbird is an oversteerer.

EDIT: Check this out. The guy with the OP (Opening Post) is complaining about the oversteer.

www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo52/show_msgs.php?pid=941103&topic_id=m-1-57819879

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"Easily the worst handling car
in the whole game, The RUF
Yellowbird in real life is a
motor icon known by many
car enthusiasts but in this
game its popular for another
reason OVERSTEER!!!!!!! It goes
to slide on every single turn
no matter what tyres you use!
RVR have won in a major
tuning battle with this car (the
1st time we tried we lost )
Fixing most of the oversteer
problem and making the car
feel better! But be warned this
car is NOT for a beginner
driver!"

Source: www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5461083
 
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TeamOrecaViper
Like Samer said :)

(Maybe if steering angle of dfgt will ever be 200° then it woud be possible to correct oversteer and become fun...)
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Turn the sensitivity to 7
 
Ferrari_1996
Are you dizzy? The RUF yellowbird is an oversteerer. Do you know what oversteer is? And if you don't believe me hopefully another GTP member will tell you that the Yellowbird is an oversteerer.

EDIT: Check this out. The guy with the OP (Opening Post) is complaining about the oversteer.

www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo52/show_msgs.php?pid=941103&topic_id=m-1-57819879

EDIT 2:

"Easily the worst handling car
in the whole game, The RUF
Yellowbird in real life is a
motor icon known by many
car enthusiasts but in this
game its popular for another
reason OVERSTEER!!!!!!! It goes
to slide on every single turn
no matter what tyres you use!
RVR have won in a major
tuning battle with this car (the
1st time we tried we lost )
Fixing most of the oversteer
problem and making the car
feel better! But be warned this
car is NOT for a beginner
driver!"

Source: www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5461083
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I guess they don't have Sarcasm in Birmingham?
 
guess they don't have Sarcasm in Birmingham?
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i love this, an american telling an englishman about sarcasm :) great stuff

Iv really enjoyed reading the responses to this question, kinda wish we could all talk about its real life application, you people really know your stuff, well most of you!
 
I'm a massive fan of oversteer. :-) Easier to control with throttle/steering inputs I find than ploughing headlong into a barrier because your car won't turn. Lol.
 
Oversteer for sure.....the problem with understeer is that the car loses a lot of it's power. Take the old NSX's for example (Takata Done NSX '03, Mobil 1 NSX etc). You throw them in the corner, they oversteer, it feels great and they go fast.....plus overtseer is more fun as most people have said. For serious driving tho, i try to keep it somewhere between 👍
 
TeamOrecaViper
Like Samer said :)

(Maybe if steering angle of dfgt will ever be 200° then it woud be possible to correct oversteer and become fun...)
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+1. With 900 degrees of rotation, you just cant control oversteer very well with a DFGT. With a D-pad... no problem.
 
LordZycon
I'm a massive fan of oversteer. :-) Easier to control with throttle/steering inputs I find than ploughing headlong into a barrier because your car won't turn. Lol.
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Plus it's easier to take a hit in the rear and do less damage because the sideways motion slows you down more on fr/ff cars there is less to break if you slam the rearend in the wall, just an axle, swaybars, and minor things, no steering or engine issues
 
iamsupernasty
I guess they don't have Sarcasm in Birmingham?
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I guess people don't believe what others say in Chicago? What if that guy was actually telling the truth. Seems unlikely, but for some odd reason, his Yellowbird might be understeering.

And I guess people in Chicago have time to make off-topic posts in threads?
 
Ferrari_1996
I guess people don't believe what others say in Chicago? What if that guy was actually telling the truth. Seems unlikely, but for some odd reason, his Yellowbird might be understeering.
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Hey look, the word Gullible is written on the ceiling!
 
It depends on the car and track.

On the Nurburg I prefer Understeer, but on huge tracks like TGTT, oversteer is more fun.
 
counter345
It depends on the car and track.

On the Nurburg I prefer Understeer, but on huge tracks like TGTT, oversteer is more fun.
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You're contradicting yourself. You said on huge tracks you like oversteer but the Nürburgring is the biggest track and you like understeer in the Nürburgring.
 

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