Pagani Zonda R

[daan]

It didn't tell me if it was in any games in the first post. It also didn't tell me how new it was. So stop complaining about that.

This is the "Auto News" forum. Its about real cars, not ones that are/aren't in GT4/5.

 

[Danny]

I know what I want for Christmas.

New socks?

On the subject of the car...

I'd leave it well alone.
I neither want nor need a Pagani.

 

[donbenni]

I would 👍

 

[Neal]

Hardly surprising it's done it really but still mighty impressive, it steals the thunder from Ferrari which won't go down too well in Maranello. A bit of friendly competition improves the bread so it's all good for the future.

Article below from EVO...the photographer wants a slap!

Pagani Zonda breaks 'Ring record

A Zonda R has lapped the Green Hell in under seven minutes. Read more here.

Pagani is claiming to have broken the Nurburgring Nordschliefe lap record. Yesterday a Zonda R driven by 'Ring specialist Marc Basseng recorded a 6min47sec lap time.

This not only comprehensively beats the 6.58 lap time Ferrari achieved recently in a 599XX, but also the 6.48 record we helped set in a Radical SR8LM last year. As with the Ferrari, the Zonda R isn’t road legal, so like its Italian rival appears in the standings as a production-derived model.

This isn’t the first time Pagani has taken on the Green Hell. In October 2007 a Zonda F Clubsport recorded a 7.27.82 lap and a year later another F Clubsport took that down to 7.24.65.

This latest lap represents a huge time gain – and it’s understood that Marc Basseng believes there is even more to come from the car – perhaps as much as another eight seconds, in fact.

You can read the full story of the Zonda's Ring attack in evo 147, on sale Wednesday July 21.

 

[Dave A]

apart from the fact it's not a road car that's great. These records don't matter, a GT car is technically production derived.

 

[Blitz187]

Whats up with the weird pics?

 

[Neal]

apart from the fact it's not a road car that's great. These records don't matter, a GT car is technically production derived.

You have to put you fingers in your ears and go "la la la la la" about the whole production derived thing

Whats up with the weird pics?

**** knows, can you imagine the uproar if a photographer did that with the page 3 in the daily tabloids!

 

[Alex.]

I hope to god no one beats Bellof's record. It simply deserves to be permanently unbeaten.

 

[Jim Prower]

So...When is someone gonna bring their 911 GT1 out of retirement? Or when will Toyota bring out the TS020?

 

[Stevisiov]

I hope to god no one beats Bellof's record. It simply deserves to be permanently unbeaten.

It was an incredible lap, in an incredible car, and you surely know, that me being a huge Dauer fan, and thus a big fan of the 956 have the utmost respect for that man and that car.

With that said, I really hope that lap time gets beaten. That lap represents the pinnacle of technological achievement in cars for the 1980's. The car will always be remembered (at least by me) for being one of the greats of motorsports, but as time passes, it moves on, and technology moves on with it. I would like to see a vehicle of now and the new technology that comes with it, to show us how far we have come. In my mind, anything that can currently beat that impressive lap time, is still a very impressive technological achievement, even nearly 30 years on.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

You have to put you fingers in your ears and go "la la la la la" about the whole production derived thing

Production derived is not correct, as the R doesn´t share a single component with any roadgoing Zondas. It is however a production car, as it will be built in a (very) few numbers. Ferrari used the same sentiment with the 599XX. They ARE production models, but they are in no way roadlegal.

 

[Neal]

^ good point. I imagine many hyper cars are mostly used on race tracks (if at all ) so I feel the 'ring times for these non-road legal track day cars are a bit less irrelevant although they will, and should, always be viewed separately to road legal cars.

More info below from EVO and a couple of videos.

EVO Blog

I've spent the last couple of days out at the 'Ring watching the chaps from Pagani attempt to set a record lap time in the Zonda R. You'll get the full story in a future issue of evo but I thought you might like to see the few video clips I managed to get. They were only shot on my mobile, so you'll have to forgive the quality, but the noise comes across pretty well. Oh the noise. As Pagani had private track time for the record attempts it was wonderfully still and quiet as you waited for the R to come round. Then, long before the car hove into view, you'd catch snippets of V12 shriek carving its way towards you through the forrest. It defined spine-tingling.
There will be shouts, as there were with Ferrari's 599XX, that the Zonda R isn't a road car (or a homologated race car for that matter) and therefore its time is an irrelevance. But frankly any vehicle, no matter its provenance, capable of circulating the twists, turns bumps and bewilderments of the 'Ring in a time of 6min47sec deserves our praise. And so does the driver capable of piloting it...

 

[Stotty]

The R is an awesome machine and I'd probably give up my left testicle in exchange for one, but this 'Ring record thing is getting a bit silly FFS... not the times, but the way manufacturers are trying to classify their cars... seriously, WTF is 'production derived'??

Oh, and Radical SR8LM + slicks = sub 6.30

What we need is independently run laps by the same driver, on the same day in standard road cars straight off the production line.

 

[Neal]

It's just marketing and willy waving really. The manufacturers seem to prefer pumping money into getting a low 'ring time than going racing, it's certainly cheaper!

I do agree it would be better to have independently run laps by the same driver but it's not easy although it has been attempted before.

 

[ICEMAN_ZIDANE]

NEW WORLD RECORD
6 min 47 seconds on the Nordschleife
!! 11 !! seconds faster then the ferrari

and that was only the first run

 

[Neal]

NEW WORLD RECORD
6 min 47 seconds on the Nordschleife
!! 11 !! seconds faster then the ferrari

and that was only the first run

Erm...have you see post 34 of this thread?

 

[Neal]

 

[Dan_]

Anything capable of lapping the 'ring in sub-7 minutes time is awesome, comparations and lap time attack challenges are just silly marketing, but putting the numbers on the table, is awesome nonetheless. Nice stuff from the old man. 👍

 

[Blitz187]

I would be pooping my pants if I was sitting next to that man...

 

[ND4SPD]

Love the part where we tightens his harness on the straight!

 

[Neal]

Love the part where we tightens his harness on the straight!

Indeed, I guess the flat out kink had him worried Also cool him giving a big "whoop" after pressing the stopwatch and checking the lap time.

 

[G.T]

Just to think if the geabox didn't have those hiccups it could easily have been a few seconds quicker!

 

[Neal]

Pagani Zonda R - Nurburgring documentary presented by Horacio Pagani who you also see getting his hands dirty 👍 Short but sweet....very very sweet

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[Neal]

Pagani Zonda R driven by autocar.co.uk

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EDIT: Just because this should be posted somewhere, listen out for the spine tingling rifle shot crack from the exhaust with each upshift

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[Alex p.]

One messy, virtual lap on the 24h version, done by me.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

...I'd still have the MC12, but that may just be me...

So which division is Pagani going racing in?

I'd also have an MC12.

I like everything about it except the wing.

Its still automotive porn in my opinion.

Can I third that?

 

[Neal]

Can you tell I like it

Autocar Road Test

Autocar Photos

Pagani Zonda 6.0 V12 R First DriveTest date 23 August 2010

What is it?
A 217mph, 739bhp track special costing £1.5m, and the pinnacle of a story that started in 1999, when Pagani launched its first supercar.

Although the Zonda R first surfaced in 2007, its appearance here is timely because in July, one had lapped the Nürburgring in 6min 47sec. While the R is not road legal, Pagani claims it is based on a production car. Making that a new record.

Without getting drawn into the murky world of Nordschleife records and definitions the facts are this: however you cut it, 6min 47sec is flipping fast, and some 11 seconds quicker around the ‘Ring than the equally road-illegal Ferrari 599XX.

What’s it like?
Unfortunately I’m not at the Nürburgring but at an Areodrome just outside Modena. Still, there’s more than enough opportunity to explore where the Zonda R sits in the league of seriously brisk cars.

For the sake of the clutch I’m asked not to perform a standing start, so instead I squeeze full throttle in second. The response is instant and frankly shocking. For an engine tuned to provide 123bhp/litre at 7500rpm, the pick-up from low revs is faultless. From there the power simply unfolds with breathtaking linearity.

Compared to current road-going Zondas, the R actually uses a smaller capacity engine. But one lifted from a Mercedes CLK-GTR GT1 racer. Except that here the V12 runs without restrictors to produce its 739bhp - in a car that weighs 1070kg dry.

Beyond 6000rpm the V12 is simply sensational, pulling relentlessly with a soundtrack straight from Le Mans. Even without removing the R’s huge rear clamshell – like the rest of the body and central tub, constructed from carbon-titanium, a fabric even stronger than regular carbonfibre – the exhaust plumbing is visible. And there is not a single silencer.

The Zonda R uses a six-speed XTRAC sequential dog gearbox, with an automated clutch. Which not only means pulling away is not the juggling act of razor throttle and race clutch I’d imagined, but also that the gearshifts are brutally fast. Just 20 milliseconds, or a third of the time it takes in a Ferrari 430 Scuderia.

The Modena runway is just 800m long (allowing room to brake and turn); that’s just 500m of full throttle. But it’s enough for the Zonda R to exceed 150mph, performance beyond that of a Noble M600. And with no turbos to spool up and a kerb weight at least 700kg lighter, probably enough to challenge a Veyron from 30mph to 180mph. The only thing I’ve driven that comes close for sheer lack of inertia is a McLaren F1 GTR running short gearing, and even then the Zonda might just have the edge.

What impresses most, though, is that the R works so well as a package. So often when you have such a stellar engine – and this is unquestionably one of the best – the rest of the car struggles to match up. With the Zonda R that is simply not the case.

While today doesn’t provide an opportunity to test Pagani’s claim of 2.0g of lateral acceleration, there are enough corners to reveal that the R is impressively well balanced. There is, of course, a huge amount of grip; the surprise is that the limit is approachable and exploitable.

Should I buy one?
The key with the Zonda R is that although it is not designed to go racing, you could rock-up at GT meeting and not be embarrassed. And yet, unlike so many competition cars you don’t have to drive it at ten-tenths to enjoy it.

It is worth one and half million quid? Can any car we worth that much? What is clear, though, is that anyone buying the Zonda R will be getting not only a splendid track car, but also a spectacular piece of engineering. You could spend hours looking at some of the details.

In just over ten years Pagani has transformed the car no-one had heard of, into one of the fastest and most expensive in the world. Which is some achievement.

Jamie Corstorphine

Pagani Zonda R
Price: £1,500,000 approx; Top speed: 217mph+; 0-62mph: 2.7sec; Economy: n/a; Co2: n/a; Kerb weight: 1070kg (dry); Engine: V12, 5987cc, petrol; Power: 739bhp at 7500rpm; Torque: 524lb ft at 5700rpm; Gearbox: 6-spd sequential

 

[Kakumaki]

Can you tell I like it

Yeah, it's an amazing car and we will drive it soon with GT5.

 

[Neal]

Yeah, it's an amazing car and we will drive it soon with GT5.

:tup:

 

[GT5SER]

I want that car! Can't wait to drive it in GT5!

- Jeramy