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How many total cars do iracing and gtr2 have? Gpl?

There's a free game at SimBin or whatever that has f1 and muscle car with 2 tracks. I saw a video that showed the 2 cars and it looks really cool.

Are there any open world games on pc? Kinda like tdu but different. There is a game for original xbox that was cool. Had long roads in the mountains and wilderness with a bunch of cars. I don't remember what brand but it was cool.
 
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Iracing doesn't have cars, just a basic ABC car list, a Radical, a Corvette a Ford GT, an MX-5 a Nascar, a Mustang, a couple of open wheelers, some other crappy stuff and that's all. No Ferrari, No Lambo, No Maserati, No McLaren, No Nissan GT-R, No Lexus, No Koenigsegg, No Mercedes, No Audi, No Bugatti, No Jaguar nothing of nothing. Iracing is subscription based and you have to pay almost every car/track separately (or sort of). That's why I don't like it. People are waiting for rFactor 2, hopefully with the new physics engine and awesome mods like WSGT2 and other cool stuff they will kick Iracing ass badly, maybe forcing them to increase the number of available models.

It's up to you, if you don't care about a weak car list, you are ready to pay subscriptions go for Iracing, you'll find great physics. But if you hate that system and you CARE about the cars (and the number of cars) you drive go for GTR2, rFactor, GTL, GT Evo and their mods. Comunity content it's all around the web. Check Nogrip and F1Classic. And keep an eye on this http://autoclubrevolution.com/ it's WIP project, should be nice once ready.
 
Iracing doesn't have cars, just a basic ABC car list, a Radical, a Corvette a Ford GT, an MX-5 a Nascar, a Mustang, a couple of open wheelers, some other crappy stuff and that's all. No Ferrari, No Lambo, No Maserati, No McLaren, No Nissan GT-R, No Lexus, No Koenigsegg, No Mercedes, No Audi, No Bugatti, No Jaguar nothing of nothing. Iracing is subscription based and you have to pay almost every car/track separately (or sort of). That's why I don't like it. People are waiting for rFactor 2, hopefully with the new physics engine and awesome mods like WSGT2 and other cool stuff they will kick Iracing ass badly, maybe forcing them to increase the number of available models.

It's up to you, if you don't care about a weak car list, you are ready to pay subscriptions go for Iracing, you'll find great physics. But if you hate that system and you CARE about the cars (and the number of cars) you drive go for GTR2, rFactor, GTL, GT Evo and their mods. Comunity content it's all around the web. Check Nogrip and F1Classic. And keep an eye on this http://autoclubrevolution.com/ it's WIP project, should be nice once ready.

iRacing is one of the finest racing sims out there currently. Its a privealige to race in it.

Content is all well and good but 80% of it is crap. The AI in those games is average at best and the online play is flawed unless you get a good league. iRacing netcode is second to none and the racing quality is superb.
 
Yes Iracing is cool but I hate the subscription dictature and the tiny car list. Really hate that, is it a problem to you? Neither I'm not sure about the 80% of comunity content labeled as "crap". You don't know HOW and WHERE to look at. For evry crappy mod there's an outstanding work just learn how to search.
 
HKS racer
Yes Iracing is cool but I hate the subscription dictature and the tiny car list. Really hate that, is it a problem to you? Neither I'm not sure about the 80% of comunity content labeled as "crap". You don't know HOW and WHERE to look at. For evry crappy mod there's an outstanding work just learn how to search.

Your opinions are opinions as are his. Iracing's strength isn't in the number of cars. Iracing is simply put the best true racing SIM out there right now in terms of physics and realism. Does that make it the best? Nope, it's personal preference.
 
Well, I'm not saying Iracing isn't the best in terms of physics, it is, for now. I just don't like how they sell rent their product. rFactor 2 could match that level of realism or getting very close, with the advantage of some top notch mods and the no subscriptions needed.
 
HKS racer
Well, I'm not saying Iracing isn't the best in terms of physics, it is, for now. I just don't like how they sell rent their product. rFactor 2 could match that level of realism or getting very close, with the advantage of some top notch mods and the no subscriptions needed.

That's fine but when helping somebody with a decision you can't say there is this one here with all these great features and not describe any downfalls and then describe the other and say these are all the bad things.
 
What's the downfalls of GTR2/rFactor? Not having Iracing physics? Not sure if you can consider it a downfall Iracing is well known for his top notch realism, but the other mentioned sims aren't that bad as some fools are saying and they have been modded as hell. Cars, tracks, graphics and physics, I guess most of the iracing guys don't have a clue how modding rFactor GTR2 properly to improve realism.
And If you want organized online racing you can always find league sites. Seems like you just hate to hear someone saying Iracing subscription is a dictature. Which it is.. hope I'm not talking with iracing fanboys. I always consider pros and cons of EVERYTHING. It's all about priorities.

It's up to you, if you don't care about a weak car list, you are ready to pay subscriptions go for Iracing, you'll find great physics. But if you hate that system and you CARE about the cars (and the number of cars) you drive go for GTR2, rFactor, GTL, GT Evo and their mods. Comunity content it's all around the web. Check Nogrip and F1Classic. And keep an eye on this http://autoclubrevolution.com/ it's WIP project, should be nice once ready.
 
Your taking this quite seriously. I'm not on either side here more just a voice of reason. Just simply pointing out how you worded your preference does not do justice to the other extremely well made product simply because you don't like subscriptions and fewer number of cars. I couldn't give a crap what game anybody plays to be honest.
 
Seems like you just hate to hear someone saying Iracing subscription is a dictature. Which it is.. hope I'm not talking with iracing fanboys. I always consider pros and cons of EVERYTHING. It's all about priorities.

I didn't like the idea of a subscription based racing game either, but it's only a couple of bucks a month, and it really helps to keep the idiots off the track. There are still a few bad apples on it, but it's no way near any other racing game I have ever seen. I think I might be a fan of subscription just because the only people paying to play are people who came to race, and not mess around. If it wasn't pay to play, then iracing wouldn't be near the game that it is.
 
Get one year instantly and it´s around $4 a month :)
There is no dictature like people like to think.

iRacing provides a service, YOU decide how much you want to pay a month and YOU decide how much you want to spend on cars. YOU decide if you want to use this service.

When people say dictature it means to me that this person doesn´t have the money to play iracing but instead takes a dump on it instead.

Subscription based is the only PROPER way to go. The game can never die nor can it ever get old, it´s a constant development and can only get better from here.
Compared to other games like Simbin´s titles where they take the same game, re-name it and sell it like a new game, several times a year until they can´t squeeze out more money from you.
 
^ LOL you forget SimBin stuff is moddable so you can do whatever you want. SimBin packs are there, you don't need to buy them just beacuse you want new stuff, you can always search for free mods and free tracks, and there are lot of good stuff out there, lol why you didn't mention it? Subscriptions the only way to go? Let's see with rFactor 2, I didn't hear any subscription thing by ISI yet. Anyway feel free to do whatever you want.
 
^ LOL you forget SimBin stuff is moddable so you can do whatever you want. SimBin packs are there, you don't need to buy them just beacuse you want new stuff, you can always search for free mods and free tracks, and there are lot of good stuff out there, lol why you didn't mention it? Subscriptions the only way to go? Let's see with rFactor 2, I didn't hear any subscription thing by ISI yet. Anyway feel free to do whatever you want.

Exactly, cars made up by what the creator "thinks" a porsche or whatever should handle etc.
I used to drive simbin games etc and 80% of what´s out there is crap tbh.
 
I'd say go with rFactor or wait for rFactor 2 like I told you from the start. iRacing is fine and what not but it takes alot of time so you should be a series sim racer if you're going to do iRacing. It also has one other thing people fail to mention and that is, iRacing has actual race driver in real life that use the game. So you could actually race a couple of IZOD indy guys or nascar guys online. However, if you're looking for street cars and race cars stick to GT or FM cause there is no PC sim racer like them, but that's the downfall GT and FM have because they're not capable of running a great physics engine like the PC games. Or at least not yet.
 
Go for GTR2, even as you said there's not much cars. But there are a massive lot of downloadable cars and tracks, try a site called Nogrip. They have heaps :) It also has stuff for other PC racers in case you get something else ;)
I agree 👍
 
Exactly, cars made up by what the creator "thinks" a porsche or whatever should handle etc.
I used to drive simbin games etc and 80% of what´s out there is crap tbh.

Sound like you don't know what and where to look at, nor how to improve physics. NAP mod is there, new slip angles curves are there, new menu with advanced FFB options are there, cars with great physics yet again, are there. Everything you need is there, on the net. Just keep your eyes open. Wel known modders by the comunity for their high quality stuff are there. So what about looking in the right forums instead of talkin' crap on something YOU don't know? 💡
The same thing with rFactor, the tutorial Leo+Real Feel FFB is there, etc etc..
 
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Sound like you don't know what and where to look at, nor how to improve physics. NAP mod is there, new slip angles curves are there, new menu with advanced FFB options are there, cars with great physics yet again, are there. Everything you need is there, on the net. Just keep your eyes open. Wel known modders by the comunity for their high quality stuff are there. So what about looking in the right forums instead of talkin' crap on something YOU don't know? 💡
The same thing with rFactor, the tutorial Leo+Real Feel FFB is there, etc etc..

For god sakes read his post completely first. Those mods may improve physics but they are entirely based off what people think. How many mods do you know of include laser scanned tracks? How many have full access to the cars they are modeling as a part of their licensing agreement and get to conduct private testing on those cars? I'd venture my guess at the grand total of.... 0.
 
HKS racer
Sound like you don't know what and where to look at, nor how to improve physics. NAP mod is there, new slip angles curves are there, new menu with advanced FFB options are there, cars with great physics yet again, are there. Everything you need is there, on the net. Just keep your eyes open. Wel known modders by the comunity for their high quality stuff are there. So what about looking in the right forums instead of talkin' crap on something YOU don't know? 💡
The same thing with rFactor, the tutorial Leo+Real Feel FFB is there, etc etc..

i have already tried 99% of it and i stilll stand by what i say.
ive tried everything and nothing comes close to iR if your a racer and wants realism.

u mad because you can't afford it.
 
Sound like you don't know what and where to look at, nor how to improve physics. NAP mod is there, new slip angles curves are there, new menu with advanced FFB options are there, cars with great physics yet again, are there. Everything you need is there, on the net. Just keep your eyes open. Wel known modders by the comunity for their high quality stuff are there. So what about looking in the right forums instead of talkin' crap on something YOU don't know? 💡
The same thing with rFactor, the tutorial Leo+Real Feel FFB is there, etc etc..

We do know where to look, there are many very talented communitys out there, and yes, there are some great mods, hence why I said 80% of it is not very good. 20% of it is excellent. I shall cite some now:
Enduracers mod
SRM 1991 F1
CTDP 2006
Historic Rally Cars
FIA GT 2005-7-8
Raceking and Com8 Norschleifes
Targa Florio
PCC

However, I could name hundreds of mods I have tried which I find pitiful:
Impreza mod
Drift mod
75% of all the F1 mods are complete suck
ETCC
EOAA
British Super Touring Cars
MX5 cup
M3 cup
TC2000
Peugeot 107
Ensushiya
RX8
Gran Turismo 2.00

Need I continue? And thats just rFactor. Mods are too inconsistent, and it doesnt matter how clever the modders are, the netcode is still not brilliant and the AI will always suck. RealFeel FFB, while and improvment over rFactors standard FFB is still some way of iRacings FFB. Not to mention, in order to make rFactor and GTR playable what your saying is you need to download 101 things to make it playabale, whereas iRacing is playable from the word go..
I hate to sound like a fanboy but its just not in the same league, I understand the subscription thing is not to everyones taste but its not like its expensive.
 
Can we stop with the Iracing versus the world please? And I am aware that one person has been mostly responsible for this.
 
GTR and rFactor are modding platforms, they are not for dumb people. Iracing has great physics great netcode but 20 cars, and you have to pay for each one. Again it's all about priorities what really matter to the final user. For instance GTR2 doesn't need online at all imo, if you want a challange just raise AI strength to 120% and try to catch them if you can (you can't). I also need to mention some of the F1 classic stuff, expecially for GTR2 where I'm finding lot of great mods these days. Izukon is working on Lamborghini Reventon and Ferrari 599 with SuperGT specs and bodywork. So people just pick the right game for you, couze I did it. :cool:;)
 
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GTR and rFactor are modding platforms, they are not for dumb people. Iracing has great physics great netcode but 20 cars, and you have to pay for each one. Again it's all about priorities what really matter to the final user. For instance GTR2 doesn't need online at all imo, if you want a challange just raise AI strength to 120% and try to catch them if you can (you can't). I also need to mention some of the F1 classic stuff, expecially for GTR2 where I'm finding lot of great mods these days. Izukon is working on Lamborghini Reventon and Ferrari 599 with SuperGT specs and bodywork. So people just pick the right game for you, couze I did it. :cool:;)

you still fail to understand what we are saying.
 
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you still fail to understand what we are saying.

This. We aren't against you and we aren't all saying that Iracing is the be all and end all of pc race sims but it is simply the best in terms of pure sim and modders of those games obviously can't compete with laser scanned tracks and private testing sessions with each car they model....why? Because those modders aren't paying $1000's in licensing fees to do so.
 
Only the Dallara Chassis raced in the Indy Lights series, other than other race cars...there has not been anything on that. I doubt too many cars will come anytime soon.
 
When it comes to amount of content vs $ then iracing = total ripoff. I think the only reason to join is if you plan to try to win their $ prizes. Otherwise it's an absolute rip! But someone may not mind the $ when they enjoy what they have. But it'd be boring for me to drive the same car and track over and over.

I still wanna try it though.
 
If you haven't tried it, then how can you say it's a ripoff. So many people play and love Iracing. Perhaps the satisfaction gained from playing it voids any negative feelings about the monthly fees or content level.

I buy F1 games every year providing one is released. I never complain about "only" having 16-19 tracks or 10-14 different cars.
 
Personally, I think rFactor is a rip-off. For 40 bucks you get a few badly modeled cars and tracks, the BWM F1 is horrendous. Iracing really isn't a rip-off, you get a 10% discount for buying 3 or more items at a time, and a 20% discount for buying 6 or more. A year subscription cost about 8 dollars per month. Heck, a dinner for two at a nice restaurant can easily cost more then a year subscription to iRacing.

Rfactor is fine if you like league racing or want to drive a large variety of cars, most of which are garbage, just don't expect to hop online and find people to race with, without joining a league.
 
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