PD forgot to "rebadge" the BRZ properly

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JohnScoonsBeard
I love the weider but it is a shame the numpties forgot to add the cockpit rear view.
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They didn't forget, it's the same view as all other GT500 cars or any racecar where the rear window is closed, the alternative would be a fully modelled interior shot with the sole aim of watching the modelling done as it would be useless to see what's behind, then you had to switch to another view to find out what's going on behind you.
Perhaps they could've placed a non-existent camera by the rear window showing some of the rear bodywork to make it visually more interesting but I don't mind the easy more practical solution they chose.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
But negative camber certainly is 0 degrees for most cars
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Not in real life.

Most cars spec camber at between 0.0 and -2.0 degrees depending on the type of car. My very mundane Volvo sedan specs 0.0 degrees camber for the front wheels, but -1.0 degrees for the rear wheels.

The alignment specs for a Porsche 944 are -20 minutes of camber front and -40 minutes of camber rear (about -0.33 degrees camber front and -0.67 degrees camber rear).

I've seen very few cars with all four wheels spec-ed at 0.0 degrees camber from the factory.

Granted, from the factory you're talking about very small values that just aren't visible to the naked eye, but most cars do run at least some small amount of negative camber, especially on the rear axle.
 
Not causing trouble here, just a simple question, does Forza have correct values for all cars or do they do the same as PD?
 
Zenmervolt
Not in real life.
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I know! I meant that in GT5 it's 0 for most cars, while it's not the case for most cars in RL. Same for toe values, many cars in RL have much different factory values than 0.0/0.2.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
I know! I meant that in GT5 it's 0 for most cars, while it's not the case for most cars in RL. Same for toe values, many cars in RL have much different factory values than 0.0/0.2.
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Ah. Gotcha.

This leads me to believe, like others, that the "default" values are simply greyed-out placeholders since they're non-adjustable anyway.
 
What I also meant is that camber visually and very clearly changes in GT5 when it's adjusted, and cars with 'grayed out' zero camber (virtually every one in the game) do look like they have 0 camber. So stock camber doesn't look like it's a placeholder, but a representation of the actual setting.

It wouldn't make much sense otherwise, anyway. Why should only suspension settings be placeholders, when other stock settings (aero, LSD, gear ratios, etc) behave exactly as expected even if they are grayed out?
 
trocade
Yes it is a very well kept secret wat the spring-rates are for the brz...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10416

Or the alignment setup from factory:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79187

And since the aftermarket for coilovers and springs are already flooded for this car, it would be quite naive to think that subaru is afraid of aftermarket tuners to look in gt5 to create the products... but I guess that part was a joke right?
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Not really, lol. But thanks for clearing that up. I just said there might be some reasons to hide it that I do not know of wich those might be. I admit the examples I posted were rather naive. But looking at your links you posted I feel like this is more of a proove to my point rather than the opposite.

In the first link they talk about how the BR-Z is more understeering than its twins. Quite how the one in game does. Why would it do that if we could go by the default suspension settings???
 
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Well, I have seen the BRZ in real life and (I see how it can be a problem)... Well... Memes lighten things up?:nervous:
http://[domain blocked due to malware]/instances/400x/27560337.jpg
 
nm I didnt realize this thread was bumped.
 
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