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Reventón;3399004Why on earth would a new intake throw a CEL unless someone purposely put it on wrong?![]()
Some don't have a MAF in them I think.
Reventón;3399004Why on earth would a new intake throw a CEL unless someone purposely put it on wrong?![]()
Some don't have a MAF in them I think.
Ehrm, then the car wouldn't run right full stop.
It would be the MAF getting wrong/weird/odd signals and the computer not knowing what to do.
Philly, how are services and maintaining costs over there? Is it really so expensive to get your GTI fixed, or is it expensive in general to fix a VW in the US?
No, my bother has two vans and they've been broken down since I can remember but that's just due to his laziness. And I shouldn't really say it's pathetic, that's a little harsh. It just kinda bad.
It really depends on the VW, and how its been treated. My previous Jetta blew out due to some insane transmission problem that was apparently common on a lot of the MKIII cars. Despite my problems (mostly with electrical system), the car ran well most of the time. I got a good deal on the car, it retained its resale value, but the VW curse ended up getting me. Still, making it 175K isn't half bad. Especially for a VW. We've had four separate VWs in our family: 1993 Fox, 1996 Jetta Wolfsburg, 1999 New Beetle, and a 2002 Cabrio (which we still have). The problems were of the typical sort, electric issues in the wet, power window issues with the newer models, etc. The Jetta and the Cabrio stand out as the most-reliable based on my own memory, the New Beetle suffering from a lot of the early build quality issues.
It always seems to depend on the model, where it was built, who drove it, how the stars were lined up, and what my alphabet soup looked like the day before. VW people know what they're getting into, and they're willing to accept the problems as they come (usually at a significant price). If it weren't for my health problems, and the prospect of my job ending (which it did), I likely would have bought a third VW instead of my Celica. So far, the Toyota has been trouble-free (despite one massive repair)... But its not the same as my Volkswagens. Maybe when my finances get back on their feet, I'll dabble in the VWs again.
But, mark my words: I'll never own an Audi.
Thank you, that saved me explainingPhilly could even break his MAF himself for all we know. My point was just that you're more likely to get a CEL than to notice a real difference in power with some cone filter
Yeah, you might feel something, but it seems like he thought it was the end-all be-all of his car..
And to my knowledge a CAI throws a light more often then not when installed because of all the reasons mentioned. I'm not sure if you can just have the code cleared though.
Philly, how are services and maintaining costs over there? Is it really so expensive to get your GTI fixed, or is it expensive in general to fix a VW in the US?
Norway has already rated VW's services as the worst amonst all brands, and the costs leave a lot to be desired. We love old VWs though, the reliability seems to be way better on them, as most brands seem to suffer from this. But still, 60 000 miles? I'm very surprised you're so frustrated about it already after 60 000 miles, because that is not the distance a car should run before experiencing problems. Or others around there are torturing the GTI, or it really is a bunch of crap incase reliability. Too bad it is, because it seems you have enjoyed this car very much uptill now, leaving all the reliability issues aside.
Well, the first half is true. His car has had repeated issues since purchase, and continue to has them despite repeated warranty work.
The second half is clearly sarcasm, every VW ever built clearly has not fallen apart as we can see them driving around on the road. Though I could probably dig up pages and pages of recalls, reliability issues, and so on. One of those ironic half truths. I guess I'll just put the word "most" or "many" or some other subjective term in there.
Oh come on...even Philly is joking about it breaking down and is the entire reason that he wants to get rid of the thing. I hardly see you posting around here, so maybe you haven't noticed that that's some friendly harassment about VWs and a few other brands that go back and forth.
The second part? Friendly jest that VWs generally have poorer reliability. That's pretty common knowledge. He shouldn't have to back that up with evidence.
RE: Hugo on Azure's VW Comments
Honestly, its not a big deal. The VW people here have come to expect it not only from Cody, but from others as well. We already know and understand that VWs are generally unreliable, cost a bajillion dollars to maintain properly, and end up being buying options that can be a partial diagnosis for insanity - because we've already experienced it. Not everyone buys into the idea of a VW, as a (former?) Toyota guy, I wouldn't expect Cody to. But, for those of us that do, we're happy to talk to people about it and make casual recommendations when possible.
Perhaps we need to create a thread called VW Owners Anonymous?
Correct, I should have left the first half out of that quote. That half is a fact.
About it being sarcasm, you have the need to post it way too often around this section. Therefore I have the impression it's more than just sarcasm.
I read a lot here in this section and I'm aware of the friendly 'rivalries'. I don't judge on this particular post only. It's the continuous repetition of his statement that triggered me.
North American VW's seem to have poorer reliability. I can say in Europe they score average, not poor. So that negates his statement. It's also more than just a friendly jest, because in a lot of cases when VW is mentioned, I've seen him questioning the reliability without any need. Combined with the fact he stated he strongly dislikes VW, it gives me the impression he's just maligning VW. This violates the aup. Hence my warning.
AUPYou will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harrass, threaten, nor attack anyone or any group. There will be no racially, sexually or physically abusive or inciteful language tolerated. Any abusive comments made by members will be removed by the Moderating staff and the user issued with a warning or banned, as deemed appropriate by the Moderating staff. No personal attacks on other members will be tolerated. If you question someone, it must be done in a reasonable and semi-friendly manner. Violating this rule will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the board.
A joke is fine. Only Azuremen carries it too far with the same 'joke' every time. If you repeat it too often, it loses credibility. Therefore I believe it goes beyond sarcasm. I have no problem at all with Azuremen disliking VW. We all have our own preferences. Only instead of showing his aversion to VW by violating the aup, he could also try to be creative and humorous when he feels the need to show this aversion. That would show more respect to the people who do like VW and helps to prevent new members copying such an attitude.
If you're that worried, check a bunch of VW forums on the issue of intakes throwing CEL's, or ask them on the issue. I'm sure many of them will be able to give you that advice you're looking for. Getting info from here is fine, but I'm positive you'd be better informed of CAIs & CELs on your GTI on a specific forum.would probably be a good idea to skip the CAI then. Because I'm going to be needing my CEL for when the next issue does pop up...![]()
And to my knowledge a CAI throws a light more often then not when installed because of all the reasons mentioned. I'm not sure if you can just have the code cleared though.
I don't see the issue. I do find his constant jests against VW amusing; he's ragging on them, yes, but not in a way that is... Ehh... How to put it...
Reventón;3399666If you're that worried, check a bunch of VW forums on the issue of intakes throwing CEL's, or ask them on the issue. I'm sure many of them will be able to give you that advice you're looking for. Getting info from here is fine, but I'm positive you'd be better informed of CAIs & CELs on your GTI on a specific forum.![]()
Depends entirely on the design of the CAI. Most MAF sensors are sensitive to changes in intake tubing. The issue with CAIs is that the construction and design can interfere with MAF function. Air coming at high velocity around a bend, for example, will flow faster on one side, which may cause a rich/lean reading at the MAF. Or the high velocity of air entering the MAF (since it has time to build up momentum, coming through a long tube instead of straight into the MAF from the filter) can cause turbulence that affects MAF readings.
Other CAIs have improper diameter tubes for the MAF sensor. A cast Plastic or aluminum MAF housing will always have the same diameter. A MAF adapter made out of a standard stainless steel tube might be slightly deformed in the cutting process or manufacturing process.
Getting the wrong CAI, understandably, is bad. There are some common Subaru intakes that are known to lean out and blow up engines. But if the CAI uses the stock MAF housing and (as Reventon suggests) dyno and real-world tests by users show no ill effects in terms of altered Air/Fuel ratios and CELs, they should be safe.
One trick to maintaining MAF-reading consistency I've come upon on the Mazda forums... add chicken wire or steel mesh right before the MAF. (be sure to attach it firmly!). This slows down and evens out the air-flow enough to give you consistent MAF readings.
So Volkswagen is trying to tell me that making the electronic throttle system, installing it at the factory, then having to order a new one at the dealer, shipping it to the dealer, and reinstalling it at the dealer is cheaper than...a throttle cable.The intake flap motor was faulty
Oh, and I'm not just isolating VW. I'm talking about any and every car company today who invests in all this technology that nobody ever needed before, and just for the hell of it. Innovation is only innovation if it's actually better, and my opinion is that relying on a little microchip to make my decision for me is certainly not better than actually making my own decision about when i want more go.
Oh, and I'm not just isolating VW. I'm talking about any and every car company today who invests in all this technology that nobody ever needed before, and just for the hell of it. Innovation is only innovation if it's actually better, and my opinion is that relying on a little microchip to make my decision for me is certainly not better than actually making my own decision about when i want more go.
Azuremen, see pm.
Oh, and I'm not just isolating VW. I'm talking about any and every car company today who invests in all this technology that nobody ever needed before, and just for the hell of it.
Maybe it's the young and eager driver in me, but having an "off" switch for the stability control still isn't good enough for me. I can't figure out why they need all that stuff anyway when cars have been and still are tuned from the factory for safe but boring whopper understeer.It's not just for the hell of it. Electronic throttles allow for more sophisticated traction and stability control programs. With the computer having last say over the throttle opening, interventions can be far more subtle and faster than just having control over spark and fuel. It's my understanding that's why manufacturers started using them in the first place.
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So there's a legit reason for that? Makes sense. Well dag nabbit, now I have to cross one more thing off my list of things to complain about.They can also be used to fine-tune emissions, even at the (sometimes) cost of drivability. Numerous cars get complaints of "throttle hang" because the PCM software won't allow you to slam the throttle shut, because that results in a momentary super-rich condition. Keeping the throttle open a little allows air in to burn that bit of otherwise-unburned fuel.
I can't figure out why they need all that stuff anyway when cars have been and still are tuned from the factory for safe but boring whopper understeer.
They can also be used to fine-tune emissions, even at the (sometimes) cost of drivability. Numerous cars get complaints of "throttle hang" because the PCM software won't allow you to slam the throttle shut, because that results in a momentary super-rich condition. Keeping the throttle open a little allows air in to burn that bit of otherwise-unburned fuel.
"Rev hang" as we call it, is annoying as hell and makes it hard to shift smoothly in the first couple gears. If you get the revs to 3500-4000 or higher, it takes a good full second for it to begin dropping when you push in the clutch. The only way to be halfway smooth and do it in reasonable time is to let the clutch drag the motor down.
... because they almost always end up with him destroying his ZX2.