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Second image under "Point 1". It sure looks like a Z4. Excellent.

I wonder what that car is behind the Z in that pic...
 
dunkee
Is that a Z4 in those pics? Looks like it.
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Oh, haven't noticed that. Good find! 👍

By the way, the Ford GT on the cover is the exact same car Kazunori bought for himself. Maybe he wants to "show off"? :)
 
SlipZtrEm
Second image under "Point 1". It sure looks like a Z4. Excellent.

I wonder what that car is behind the Z in that pic...
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Looks like a G35. I don't think those colors were in Prologue though.
 
I edited my post. I thought your were talking about another pic (the one with the Silver S2000).

And no, I don't hate it. I LOVE the Z4. There was one parked here in my street yesterday. Dude, I spent 10 minutes admiring it and drooling... :sly:
 
Maybe Gamespot will come out with larger versions of these pics.

I thought it was an S2000 at first glance, and the car in behind looked a little like a CLK to me.
 
I find it strange that the Z4 is in front of the pack. It could never compete with the 350Z, the G35 or others in that class..
 
No it doesn't really... Just take the tv program Top Gear for example. They are pretty skilled drivers, and they compared the Z4 with the Honda S2000 and the Porsche Boxter. Perfectly normal situation, apart from the fact that the Z4 was totally outhandled by both. And the Porsche and the S2000 are not handling wonders. The 350z is a sportscar though, and the G35 is a sports coupé. The other cars in the pic are unclear, but if they are in the same class, the Z4 should be way behind.
 
LaBounti
wheres the info?
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The little bit of writing beside the word 'Info:' on the first post: Japanese GT4 Official Site next update Nov/09/04. Maybe they can finally put something up for the Course and Photomode links. When the site first went up there was also a B-Spec page.

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Another thing with the above image that features the Z4, why is there a car way, way out in front? Look at the map, I thought there was supposed to be a thing called evenly matched grids. It is also only the second lap of ten.
 
Dev_Zero
No it doesn't really... Just take the tv program Top Gear for example. They are pretty skilled drivers, and they compared the Z4 with the Honda S2000 and the Porsche Boxter. Perfectly normal situation, apart from the fact that the Z4 was totally outhandled by both. And the Porsche and the S2000 are not handling wonders. The 350z is a sportscar though, and the G35 is a sports coupé. The other cars in the pic are unclear, but if they are in the same class, the Z4 should be way behind.
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The boxster S, S2000 and Z4 3.0 are relatively close performance-wise. The Z4 is less sharp and nimble however. The 350Z is not a blisteringly fast performer, and putting it up against a boxster S on a small track like Tsukuba would probably end in defeat for the Z. 280hp and hundreds of pounds of flab do not make a good sportscar. Tuned, it's a completely different story.

And since when are Boxsters and S2000s not good handlers?
 
Uncle Harry
John, in real life the Corolla is a lot taller, not a good angle.
In real life the only time you see a Volvo being driven fast is when the 17-19 year old kids drive Mums Volvo.
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Horrible stereotype! volvo actually has a pretty good racing heritage!! and I own my volvo (have owned 3 diffrent models) 740 wagon, 850 turbo, and my latest: a S80 T-6 with about 320hp and more than 340 lb\ft of tourque, and believe me, it is very fast!
 
wee_man
Where did you race?
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It was in Zolder, Belgium. Relatively slow track with consecutive short straights and biting corners, hard for the brakes, and acceleration is important. Hence the good performing of the Marcos Mini I guess (and bad performing of my street brakes suffering from vapour in the lines).

ALPHA
I thought there was supposed to be a thing called evenly matched grids.
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Yes, that's the way it should be. However, my impression is that PD prefers to put cars together that are "similar" more then cars that perform evenly in lap times. They also often add one very slow car - so a even newbie never ends last, or one very fast car - for who really wants a challenge.

e.g. PD creates a field of Japanese sport cars, or European sport cars, or tuning cars, but seltom something like this :

Tsukuba GT4P), all on road tyres, including the MTRC and the Skyline Granturismo race car (choose 6 out of the list to create a close field):
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Viper GTS - 01:06,003
M5 Concept - 01:06,349
GT-R Granturismo - 01:06,414
SL55 AMG (2002) - 01:06,706
MTRC - 01:07,098
NSX Type S-Zero (1997) - 01:07,194
Skyline Nur (2002) - 01:07,289
Elise 190 - 01:07,315

or on Autumn Ring II (GT3C02), all on normal tyres, including the Beetle Cup car (on racing tyres!) and 2 tuning cars (again choose 6, all within 0,5 Sec)
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Esprit V8 SE - 01:25,060
XKR Coupé - 01:25,225
Beetle Cup - 01:25,287
Skyline R32 S-Tune - 01:25,310
Garaiya - 01:25,336
Corvette GS - 01:25,389
R34 M-Spec - 01:25,423
RX-8 - 01:25,502

or this, again Autumn Ring II (GT3C02), all on normal tyres, including a garage car (a Trueno tuned to be look-a-like of my first r/l car) and an hybrid (TT with working 4WD from Audi S4, and an intresting mix of FF, FR and 4WD, old and young cars (again choose 6, all within 2 Sec)
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R32 Type M - 01:31,023
Crossfire - 01:31,029
Celica (1999) - 01:31,034
Clio Sport 2,0 - 01:31,114
RX-7 (1990) - 01:31,191
Hyundai Coupé - 01:31,193
Primera - 01:31,237
Integra Type R (1998) - 01:31,279
Legacy Wagon GT-B - 01:31,306
Civic Vti - 01:31,329
Cooper S - 01:31,330
328 ci - 01:31,388
Celica ST202 (1998) - 01:31,462
Sivia S13 1800 - 01:31,472
SLK 230 Kompressor - 01:31,589
Altezza RS200 - 01:31,863
TT Quattro - 01:32,172
Accord Euro-R - 01:32,193
Spider 3,0 V6 24V - 01:32,294
GTV 3,0 V6 24V - 01:32,303
156 2,5 V6 24V - 01:32,689
Trueno ("Corolla 73") - 01:32,807
206 S16 - 01:32,994
CRX Del Sol - 01:33,051
MX-5 (1998) - 01:33,199

With so many cars added in GT4, so many more combinations will be possible. And for every track it is different!

If PD only allowed us to choose the AI cars ourselves, allow us to merge replays with 6 cars, or race against 5 ghosts a the same time :nervous:
 
Buggy Boy
It was in Zolder, Belgium. Relatively slow track with consecutive short straights and biting corners, hard for the brakes, and acceleration is important. Hence the good performing of the Marcos Mini I guess (and bad performing of my street brakes suffering from vapour in the lines).

Yes, that's the way it should be. However, my impression is that PD prefers to put cars together that are "similar" more then cars that perform evenly in lap times. They also often add one very slow car - so a even newbie never ends last, or one very fast car - for who really wants a challenge.

e.g. PD creates a field of Japanese sport cars, or European sport cars, or tuning cars, but seltom something like this :


With so many cars added in GT4, so many more combinations will be possible. And for every track it is different!

If PD only allowed us to choose the AI cars ourselves, allow us to merge replays with 6 cars, or race against 5 ghosts a the same time :nervous:
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that would be a really big step forward, I think. It's a very cool concept.
 
good damn buggy! I remember seeing a pic of gt4 with a Vette racer, a Viper racer, and a S7 on the HSR, could this be what I think it is or could the S7 be so fast it needs to be put up against race cars? Or Could it been some real people playing 1v1v1?
 
cobragt
good damn buggy! I remember seeing a pic of gt4 with a Vette racer, a Viper racer, and a S7 on the HSR, could this be what I think it is or could the S7 be so fast it needs to be put up against race cars? Or Could it been some real people playing 1v1v1?
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if that were the case, it should have been an S7R. The street car would get mutilated against that kind of opposition, despite being very fast.
 
And isn't that one of the earlier corners? So it's that far behind in quite a short distance. I do think that is pretty weird though, as the viper and the 'vette are handling race cars. Their speed is high, but the S7 would be very close to that (forgive me if I'm wrong though). The High Speed Ring isn't exactly a track where handling is an issue.
 
kinigitt
the modifications are a wee bit more thorough than that I'm afraid.
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I know, but it almost looks like thats all they do.
 

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