PITS 2-[Project International Touring Series 2]PS4 

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HazardLvL4
Honestly, I think it is a good challenge as well to force the fast guys into a slower car and still try to win. It forces them to also be more respectful of the slower drivers, "cones", since typically we can be a little aggressive when we are in the same or faster cars.
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I'm with Hazard on this.

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Screw all the details, lets just keep doing those 15 minute races with no P's and Q's. "the buggati circuit and trucks sounds good lets pick that!" YAY
 

Yes, for sanctioned races, driver rating will be on.

As for tonight driver rating will be turned off.

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In my opinion Ranking Points shouldn't be on in Official Sanctioned Races either Hazard. It's your league and I love and totally respect how you and Alex run things so please don't missunderstand me, as I am not trying to tell you how to run things. I love Thursday nights :).

However, to me all it does is give the lower placed drivers points to the higher placed drivers.. I'd ordinarily not have an issue with it under different racing circumstances but, it's no fun giving away points week after week.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against guys like you and Sgeti etc. elevating their Ranking. It's just that I find it kind of unusual when those points are attainded off the backs of fellow friends.
 
[/QUOTE]In my opinion Ranking Points shouldn't be on in Official Sanctioned Races either Hazard. It's your league and I love and totally respect how you and Alex run things so please don't missunderstand me, as I am not trying to tell you how to run things. I love Thursday nights :).

However, to me all it does is give the lower placed drivers points to the higher placed drivers.. I'd ordinarily not have an issue with it under different racing circumstances but, it's no fun giving away points week after week.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against guys like you and Sgeti etc. elevating their Ranking. It's just that I find it kind of unusual when those points are attainded off the backs of fellow friends.[/QUOTE]

To be honest this is a very strange perspective you have in regards to the driver rating in PCars 2. The driver rating in the game literally means nothing, and carries no weight with anyone. Thus, I don't understand why you're concerned about it in the first place. To reiterate, in your opinion, that the rating being active makes it "feel" like the fast drivers are boosting their driver rating off the backs of slow drivers is an unfair statement. If that were the case I would be demanding @ONESPACE, @SGETI, and @Stanc03 not to show up. Why would I want any competition if I was concerned about boosting my driver rating? Also, I am fairly confident my rating doesn't increase near as much for beating a driver with a low rating compared to a high rating. Thus, my driver rating only really jumps when I beat the aforementioned drivers, and vice versa. The only "game"/sim where driver rating carries any weight is iRacing.

You are the first driver I have come across who has an issue with it being active during races. I truly hope this isn't a legitimate reason to keep you from participating in our events. However, in order for @Alex ONeill and myself to deem the races official/sanctioned we have two criteria that must be met. The first is the driver rating is active, and secondly either @Alex ONeill or myself is hosting. During the "bye" week fun races and practice sessions we have it deactivated. Either way I appreciate you providing your input, and I am in no way responding with any disrespect. You are always more than welcome to participate in our events.
 
This is EXACTLY why I've never brought this up.. It's near impossible to express my thoughts on this topic without it being misconstrued. In no way, shape or, form was I implying that you are doing it on purpose :boggled:. In fact, I didn't even think you realized it.

Just because, I said off the backs of the lower guys didn't necessarily mean it was done maliciously. I just used it as a metaphor to explain how the top 8 in a given room gain points from the lower 8 blah blah blah. So that's all that was used for. Also to explain that those gained points don't come from the game but rather from the lower placed guys in a given race. Why would I question something that I feel is anti-friendship at its core and then go ahead and accuse those very same people of doing something so screwed up :lol:? No way bro.

The one and only time I didn't race on account of Rankings was a couple of weeks ago at Mugello when it was announced of rain (right before race), and I had zero practice there ever in the rain and was totally unprepared. That's not going to be an issue any longer as I just divide my practice time on Dry and Wet from now on, this way I am prepared in all weather conditions :). That was Camels brilliant idea.

Hazard, you may think that the point loss is miniscule, and (for you at this point) I'm sure you're right, but for me it isn't. Just to give you an example, I lost a little over 100 points in just over a month and the only Ranking Point events I did over that time was Mondays and Thursdays.

One thing I just don't get is. If the Ranking Points are something that's basically an irrelevant, overlooked thing, and as you say that the driver rating in the game literally means nothing, and carries no weight with anyone.

Then why insist to have it on every race? And why hold it to such a high standard when you say, that in order to deem the races official/sanctioned it's 1 of the 2 criteria that must be met?

Not trying to be a .... bro, I'm only sincerely asking... Jeez I wish I never wrote that initially.. It was supposed to be a joke :indiff:.
 
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potvinsuks
This is EXACTLY why I've never brought this up.. It's near impossible to express my thoughts on this topic without it being misconstrued. In no way, shape or, form was I implying that you are doing it on purpose :boggled:. In fact, I didn't even think you realized it.

Just because, I said off the backs of the lower guys didn't necessarily mean it was done maliciously. I just used it as a metaphor to explain how the top 8 in a given room gain points from the lower 8 blah blah blah. So that's all that was used for. Also to explain that those gained points don't come from the game but rather from the lower placed guys in a given race. Why would I question something that I feel is anti-friendship at its core and then go ahead and accuse those very same people of doing something so screwed up :lol:? No way bro.

The one and only time I didn't race on account of Rankings was a couple of weeks ago at Mugello when it was announced of rain (right before race), and I had zero practice there ever in the rain and was totally unprepared. That's not going to be an issue any longer as I just divide my practice time on Dry and Wet from now on, this way I am prepared in all weather conditions :). That was Camels brilliant idea.

Hazard, you may think that the point loss is miniscule, and (for you at this point) I'm sure you're right, but for me it isn't. Just to give you an example, I lost a little over 100 points in just over a month and the only Ranking Point events I did over that time was Mondays and Thursdays.

One thing I just don't get is. If the Ranking Points are something that's basically an irrelevant, overlooked thing, and as you say that the driver rating in the game literally means nothing, and carries no weight with anyone.

Then why insist to have it on every race? And why hold it to such a high standard when you say, that in order to deem the races official/sanctioned it's 1 of the 2 criteria that must be met?

Not trying to be a .... bro, I'm only sincerely asking... Jeez I wish I never wrote that initially.. It was supposed to be a joke :indiff:.
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@potvinsuks, I didn't misconstrue what you said, I didn't take it it maliciously nor was I trying to read into a deeper meaning of the statement. I was just pointing out that the statement, as it was written, was unfair. Thank you for explaining your thought process of what you meant by it. Don't regret posting it either, I appreciate your opinion. I am just having a dialog with you, and this isn't being/been blown up into a big thing.

I have not found a source that supports your statement that the points come from the other drivers in the lobby and not generated by the game's algorithm. SMS themselves don't state that in their post of how the system works. It states the following:

"The way this works is as follows: If you race and win against drivers who are a lot better than you, you’re going to get a lot of points—similarly, beating drivers who are slightly better will also see you get assigned a decent point score. If you beat drivers who are worse than you, you’re still going to get points, but not as much as if you beat higher-ranked drivers. Of course, should you lose against drivers who are ranked lower than you, you’re going to lose points."

Source: https://www.projectcarsgame.com/competitive-racing-license/

Second Source: Watch 4:00 - 7:00 minute marks.


*Note - retirements or quitting can lead to the largest decrease in points of up to 30-40 pts.

To answer your question of why we have it turned on, it is because we like the feature. I know other drivers in the league like the feature. I will concede I assumed some drivers would take the rating seriously and police themselves to be clean racers and avoid mistakes, since PITS doesn't use the in game penalties. Thus, we decided to make it one of the criteria for a race to be considered official. It is that simple, I have no justification beyond that. Now, does that mean me, HazardLvL4, takes it seriously or care about it or judge other drivers by it?, no. I put more significance on my Rainbow Six Siege Rank.

That all being said, PITS 2 will continue to operate the way we always have, and I hope this answers your question to some extent. Have a good weekend @potvinsuks, and see you on track soon.
 
I'm still at, like an "F" license or something... I need all the points I can get. Besides, I've impressed literally no one in racing with you guys. Including you guys. But having a blast doing this - and I could care less if I get points or lose points, I've only just realized (week or two ago) that I was at "E" or "F" whatever, and everyone else was either "A" or "S". I had to look it up at work the next day. :lol:

I've missed racing with you the last few weeks... and I know Bear has, I've been exclusively punting him off the track without you there, well, and ONESPACE. :sly:


We need you back, man.

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I can tell you this, iRacing don't even care about your speed rating, unless you do a big event. 95% of people on iRacing don't care about the rating. All that matters is the letter indicating your safety. Because that is what allows you to drive faster series. I have a speed rating on iRacing of 1150ish, and I race people in the 3000 to 4000 range all the time.
 
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I can tell you this, iRacing don't even care about your speed rating, unless you do a big event. 95% of people on iRacing don't care about the rating. All that matters is the letter indicating your safety. Because that is what allows you to drive faster series. I have a speed rating on iRacing of 1150ish, and I race people in the 3000 to 4000 range all the time.
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Aye aye, the weather man himself. Where you been bro? Been missing your weather forecasts. I keep having to bug Alex and Hazard for titbits but they does be stingy with their weather forecasts.
 
potvinsuks
This is EXACTLY why I've never brought this up.. It's near impossible to express my thoughts on this topic without it being misconstrued. In no way, shape or, form was I implying that you are doing it on purpose :boggled:. In fact, I didn't even think you realized it.

Just because, I said off the backs of the lower guys didn't necessarily mean it was done maliciously. I just used it as a metaphor to explain how the top 8 in a given room gain points from the lower 8 blah blah blah. So that's all that was used for. Also to explain that those gained points don't come from the game but rather from the lower placed guys in a given race. Why would I question something that I feel is anti-friendship at its core and then go ahead and accuse those very same people of doing something so screwed up :lol:? No way bro.

The one and only time I didn't race on account of Rankings was a couple of weeks ago at Mugello when it was announced of rain (right before race), and I had zero practice there ever in the rain and was totally unprepared. That's not going to be an issue any longer as I just divide my practice time on Dry and Wet from now on, this way I am prepared in all weather conditions :). That was Camels brilliant idea.

Hazard, you may think that the point loss is miniscule, and (for you at this point) I'm sure you're right, but for me it isn't. Just to give you an example, I lost a little over 100 points in just over a month and the only Ranking Point events I did over that time was Mondays and Thursdays.

One thing I just don't get is. If the Ranking Points are something that's basically an irrelevant, overlooked thing, and as you say that the driver rating in the game literally means nothing, and carries no weight with anyone.

Then why insist to have it on every race? And why hold it to such a high standard when you say, that in order to deem the races official/sanctioned it's 1 of the 2 criteria that must be met?

Not trying to be a .... bro, I'm only sincerely asking... Jeez I wish I never wrote that initially.. It was supposed to be a joke :indiff:.
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I'm just here to have fun.... With that said BOO THIS MAN....BOOOO!!
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Stanc03
Is this the result of playing too much granturismo where all ppl care about is the stupid driver rating??
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I got to be honest, and absolutely not a person will give two ****es, but I tried playing GTS about a week ago after not playing it for a couple months or more and it was just terrible. It looks great, sure, but it's just so, meh. And I'm not hatin' or trying to get into to all that rigmarole, because GT series will always be special to me as it was my first love of racing games - real love of racing games. Back in the day it was it, especially if you didn't have a PC. But it's just weak compared to today's offerings... And the online is a joke at best. Every time I would get to the front or even close, bam, smacked off the track. And I'm talking about torpedoing... not just "comin' in hot"!

Anyhoo, I still can enjoy GTS, but only in the same way I can enjoy Forza. . . 👍
 
potvinsuks
:lol: Oh God no Dave!

I don't want to make a big stink out of it. I wouldn't have even gone into it if I wasn't asked about it. No big deal.
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btw, @potvinsuks , who asked you? I think I'm the newest schleb to race with all you Seasoned Veterans - and I don't give two 'oinks about it. I'm just curious, "who asked you about it"...
 
Alex ONeill
Upcoming Races.....Season 13 - Mixed Series(Starts 4/18/19)
----->Driver Assists - Off​

Cars - GT1
(Ferrari F50 GT, Mercedes CLK-LM, Panoz Esperante GTR1, Porsche 911 GT1-98, Toyota GT-One(GT1))
Ferrari and Mercedes for Group B only​
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A little confused. Just went to do a lil testing and to check out the "Driver Assists - Off" thingy.
On the main screen options "OPTIONS>AUTHENTIC>GAMEPLAY" settings I had:
STEERING ASSISTANCE - NO (This was like this before)
BRAKING ASSISTANCE - NO (This was like this before)
DRIVING ASSISTS - OFF (I changed this from previously "Authentic" to now "OFF)

However back to the In-Game "TUNING" menu section, under "ECU/ENGINE/GEARING"
....In ECU (the three items below the gears):
1. Traction Control: (Default 10)
2. ABS Strength: (Default 75)
3. Fuel Map: (whatever is the usual number, can't remember right now)

.....These 3 items were still available to select and adjust if needed.

So my question is, seeing that I've turned "DRIVING ASSISTS" to "OFF" in the main menu "OPTIONS: GAMEPLAY" is that all that would be necessary to meet the requirements of the Host's settings?....and that in the "TUNING" settings TC and ABS would still be available for fine tuning adjustment if necessary?... or not?

Alex or Hazard, can you shed some light please?
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Alex ONeill
Yes, the number settings are still shown even when you have all assists turned off.
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And would still be able to be adjusted by user (if needed)...and be in effect...in the stipulated series?
I'm hoping so. Keeping fingers crossed.
 

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