POLL: Would you risk to lose an endurance race?

[Destinkeys]

If I am going to do an endurance at all, I don't want to be bored from 4-24 hours! And that is what doing this with an overpowered car is. Boring. To be honest, I don't mind overpowering (or using a similar car to the Typical Opponents, which is overpowering them anyway!) on a 5 lap short race. The boredom is over quickly. But 24 hours doing time trials? Who is OCD enough to want to do that?!

You know what would be REALLY useful? A Database of AI average lap speeds with each tire choice. Then you could easily pick a car with roughly the same, and you KNOW you would have a good race!

BTW, I don't get the concept of 'finishing' the game... RACING is the game, and it never ends..!

 

[Exorcet]

RACING is the game

This is what prevents me from understanding A-Spec. It does everything in its power to make you not race. Instead it makes you earn credits. I bought the game to race. I can add numbers in Excel.

You know what would be REALLY useful? A Database of AI average lap speeds with each tire choice. Then you could easily pick a car with roughly the same, and you KNOW you would have a good race!

Good idea. That could actually make GT5's AI challenging. Though it would sort of spoil things to have to have to use a GT300 car in a GT500 race, which is what I'm sure the outcome would be. I think the AI should use Skid Recovery Force, honestly.

 

[Soullessvessel]

If its a timed one yes, if its a lap one no cause well, I frankly get impatient....aside from the 24hr ones...to much at risk,

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I may use a car common to the rest of the pack after I have already won the event. Weak prize credits, weak prize cars, and this stupid XP system don't bode well whilst chasing those 20,000,000c carrots!

Today I did my first enduro, 60 laps at Grand Valley. I detuned my Yellowhat GTR to stage 1 turbo. First lap I just parked and waited for them to lap me. Then I started. Made it meaningf for a while. With CRAPPY prizes (especially a one time POC car) do not make these races that inviting!

 

[Samus]

You know what would be REALLY useful? A Database of AI average lap speeds with each tire choice. Then you could easily pick a car with roughly the same, and you KNOW you would have a good race!

I tried doing that, and the pit stop/tyre wear problem scuppered it. I did a test and worked out I needed a car to do a lap of the ring in roughly 7 minutes for it to be a challenge. It was until the fastest AI started pitting too late losing huge ammounts of time from tyre wear then constantly filling their tank on each pit stop.

So you really need to work out how long it will take the fastest car to complete the WHOLE race or how many laps they'll do in a timed race and then work out the slowest car you can get away with, but you'll need to work out your pit times as well.

 

[Basilea]

I'd say yes if I already won the race before

 

[Bobtehblob]

I would get so angry If I lost a close 24 hour race, so im making sure that won't happen in my X2010

 

[Destinkeys]

Yikes! It's like the Ballad of Rickey Bobby!

'If you're not first, you're LAST!'

In a good, even race, I'm proud to finish on the podium anywhere. Actually, I am just happy not to finish LAST!

 

[Verbal]

I'm not any FPS fan at all, so I'm rubbish when it comes to Call Of Duty.
But my friend accidentally play Call Of Duty World At War on my user, so it ended up with 1% trophies.
It didn't look nice so I ended up buying the game and getting 100% trophies.
I repeat, I am in no way an FPS fan.

If you're for real that's the saddest thing I've ever heard...

I would get so angry If I lost a close 24 hour race, so im making sure that won't happen in my X2010

By making sure you won't get angry you're also making sure you won't be happy if you win. So you'll have wasted 24 hours of your life to basically flip one bit on your harddisk.
What's the point? This is not your job, this is supposed to be fun...

 

[st1gsdad67]

Voted Yes

Caveat, only after I'd won first attempt.

Personal favourite: Cusco Dunlop Impreza '08 (353hp/Tonne) on 4Hr Nürburgring losing quite a bit to the Amuse S2000 GT1 turbo (560hp/tonne) very tight racing, (a handful of seconds difference each lap) He beats me down the straights but I reel him back in, in the twisty stuff, especially between the Karussells'

The challenge helps to improve your driving skills around the course that benefits the most.

Four hours just fly by

 

[roblowe]

I often get stuck in my mind in what to do in this situation, but I feel like I'm cheating if I use anything but a similar powered car. This did however cause me to come second in the Indy 500 when my R10 span out about 3 laps from the end! I must admit, I went back a second time using the X2010 (at 31 secs a lap, can you blame me)! I'm currently the the Suzuka 1000km in my Stealth GTR, was a bit of a challenge for the first 15 or so laps, but once I'd passed the NSX, it became plain sailing unfortunately, though I'm 100 laps in, and it has yet to start raining, and I only have a 1 lap advantage, but even this feels far to much. Cant wait to get into the 'ring and find a good car which will challenge in the race, but not make it a dull snore fest of just constantly running away from the pack.

 

[sdf]

I voted "No" cause i wouldent risk 4 races.
Suzuka 172 laps
9 Hours Tskubuka
and the 2x24 hour races.

 

[Luminis]

Voted yes. Basically, if I can be bothered to run an endurance event, I'm not going to do it for the XP or Credits, nor to complete A-Spec (couldn't care less about completing GT5, tbh). If I'm participating at such an event, I do it because I feel racing for a extended period of time. Not just hotlapping for hours on end.

If i wanted that, I'd do it in practice mode.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

I want to find out how many people are actually racing seriously because they love racing.

This thread just kinda has that "elitist" stench to it, as if it were created to poke fun at people who do everything with an "overpowered" car.

Honestly, I wouldn't risk it because there isn't anything tangible for runner-pus (like being an honorable mention in automotive sports media worldwide, gaining noteriety and an increasing fanbase, respect and critiques from famed and professional motorsport personalilties, sponorship, and of course actual money (ya know, things like real race car drivers get win or lose).

Lets say you give it a mighty effort and you come in 3rd... you get some credits, an XP bump, and then you're done. Nobody else in the world witnessed your incredible David vs. Goliath struggle, you gain a copper trophy and you're right back to the menu where the game beckons you to waste another 24 hours. Sure... maybe you recorded it and threw it up on Youtube (a 100 part GT5 spectuacular!!), nobody would watch it. Nobody would watch even the highlight.

I mean there isn't much to gain from wasting 6 or 24 hours when you lose just to prove to who esle but yourself how great of a racer you are. Or then again you could always come to GTP and make a thread about it and call it "serious racing."

I'm not even really interested in the Endurance races because they offer very little to me... a prize car the first time around and some XP. It's nice, but nothing Seasonal Events couldn't get me or good old fashion grinding... but I'll be damned if I'm forced to grind an Endurance race with nothing less than a ****ing gaurantee that I'm going to own it. I am a pretty serious lap dog, and I always see what I can get away with in the smaller events, but something as consuming with such little reward as the enduros... I'll always be that guy whose 10+ laps ahead of the robot competition - and you guys won't even get a thread from me when I win.

 

[j8mie]

TBH no I wouldn't.

Reason being is that until I can save mid endurance race, I will only be able to complete these events in one sitting. Also I'll only do them once, so I want to make sure I do win.

If I could save mid race then I would do these events more often and try a wider range of cars. PD fail.

B Spec Bob just grinds them whilst I sleep, and I want to make sure I win so the X2010 is employed.

 

[brambos]

I feel like I'm cheating if I use anything but a similar powered car. This did however cause me to come second in the Indy 500 when my R10 span out about 3 laps from the end!

The AI, however, will never spin out because they ride on magic rails, and that's why it's not cheating to at least use slightly grippier tyres than the competition on Indy...

 

[Verbal]

I mean there isn't much to gain from wasting 6 or 24 hours when you lose just to prove to who esle but yourself how great of a racer you are.

Yes, I'm doing this to enjoy *myself*, why else would I play a game?
So you're just doing this so you can say you've done it? To have that 100% in your online profile?
To each his own, but I just don't get it. I mean, if it's such a chore to you, why do it at all?

I guess this mindset is one of the reasons many aspects of GT5 have turned out the mess that they are. The original GT was rooted in a deep love of cars, driving them, collecting them. To be successful these days, they felt they had to adjust to the more modern way of gaming. It's about "completing" a game, getting 100%, collecting trophies, rushing to the end with the least possible effort. People playing games they don't even like just to show the trophies in their profile. I guess this must be pretty baffling for somebody like Kaz. Having to make a game for people you don't understand is a pretty guaranteed failure...

 

[Luminis]

I mean there isn't much to gain from wasting 6 or 24 hours when you lose just to prove to who esle but yourself how great of a racer you are.

Isn't that about all you need? Seriously, as far as XP and Credits per hour go, the endurance races are rubbish either way.
I for one couldn't care less about whether people aknowledge how well i did on a video game. But, looking bad at a challenge I've overcome, i do feel pretty good about myself. Even if it's only a challenge in a game.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

Yes, I'm doing this to enjoy *myself*, why else would I play a game?
So you're just doing this so you can say you've done it? To have that 100% in your online profile?
To each his own, but I just don't get it. I mean, if it's such a chore to you, why do it at all?

I guess this mindset is one of the reasons many aspects of GT5 have turned out the mess that they are. The original GT was rooted in a deep love of cars, driving them, collecting them. To be successful these days, they felt they had to adjust to the more modern way of gaming. It's about "completing" a game, getting 100%, collecting trophies, rushing to the end with the least possible effort. People playing games they don't even like just to show the trophies in their profile. I guess this must be pretty baffling for somebody like Kaz. Having to make a game for people you don't understand is a pretty guaranteed failure...

I fit the characterization in all honesty, however it would be quite narrow-minded to have judged my enthusiasm and satisfaction of both cars and driving based off the events I choose to compete in.

Driving is one thing, gaming is another. Though GT superbly smashes them together, there is still a fine line between the two. While I have no problems running endless hot laps around Deep Forrest, Fuji, or in Nurburgring with some of my favorite cars for no other reason than "for myself"... locking me into a room with 1 car, 1 event, 1 track, for 24 hours... is a ****ing chore, indeed. But the point is... this is why I wouldn't risk it.