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Lol. More than double that in Aus. FML
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Your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps some customers wanted the better brake option but didn't want the "flashy" yellow color for one reason or another, maybe some think the yellow clashes with certain exterior paint colors. Even the description hints towards that, I think:Edit* Odd little detail I found interesting & maybe @SPhilli911 can fill me in. But, I was always under the impression that any Porsche fitted with the PCCBs were designated with yellow calipers, and this was something Porsche would absolutely refuse to change even under PTS. On the new GT3 though, it looks like Porsche is allowing owners to option PCCBs with yellow or black-colored calipers.
Brake calipers painted in Black (high-gloss) blend harmoniously into the overall appearance of the vehicle in combination with many exterior colours.
It isn't possible to give a 911 a big stupid ugly grille.
That's pure fantasy. No bumper, part of the hood is gone.
What a bizarre argument. Of course it's fantasy; I made it in Krita. It's the front of the Toyota Avalon for crying out loud. I even exaggerated it for comic effect, because this was a snarky bit of fun about a car I'm quite fond of and a design trend I detest. I wasn't about to hack Porsche's corporate servers, download the CAD files and re-engineer the whole thing.That's pure fantasy. No bumper, part of the hood is gone.
You made my point. Because it is fantasy it is not possible or let say Porsche won't do it and that was why I said:What a bizarre argument. Of course it's fantasy; I made it in Krita. It's the front of the Toyota Avalon for crying out loud. I even exaggerated it for comic effect, because this was a snarky bit of fun about a car I'm quite fond of and a design trend I detest. I wasn't about to hack Porsche's corporate servers, download the CAD files and re-engineer the whole thing.
Are you telling me it would have been physically impossible for Porsche to have aesthetically restructured the front of the car to incorporate a gigantic yet unnecessary grille of some description if they had wanted to follow that trend?
My argument wasn't bizarre at all.It isn't possible to give a 911 a big stupid ugly grille.
... a car I'm quite fond of and a design trend I detest.
It would seem our perceived disagreement is purely semantical. The physical possibility is indeed rendered moot by the fact that unless everyone at Porsche AG simultaneously suffered a complete nervous breakdown, there is more chance of one of these somehow materializing from the configuration page onto my driveway than of such a heinous design travesty coming to pass.You made my point. Because it is fantasy it is not possible or let say Porsche won't do it and that was why I said:
My argument wasn't bizarre at all.
Everything is possible, you could even put the huge BMW kidneys on a 911 but it is not realistic.
If you were kind of joking, it's okay. I thought you were trying to prove a point with the Toyota Avalon grille. At least we agree on one thing though.
This:
Yeah, I think the gooseneck mount makes the wing look like its mounted too far forward. Reminds me of an old Pontiac Sunfire lol.The new GT3 spotted in Gulf Blue and Python Green:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...colors-gulf-blue-vs-python-green-157443.html#
Looks great! But, honestly, the wing looks odd to me the more I look at it, especially from the rear angles. I'm sure it's a function over form thing, which is important, but it still looks funky.
Do you have that diagram handy? My immediate thought is that it would be attached to the extend C-pillar because the width of the wing mount isn't nearly wide enough to go around the engine and to a frame rail. But the C-pillar structure is still one of the strongest parts of the unibody, probably stronger vertically than the relatively horizontal portion the 991 wing was attached to.Speaking of the wing, it will be interesting when these get into the hands of shops. There was a small discussion thread on Rennlist about deleting the wing altogether & the original thought was that it'd be a much easier process than the 991 RS' (which needed side pieces to flush the body work) since it looked like you could just pop the supports off & wa-lah. However, someone posted a diagram of the rear & noted that the wing mounts may be grounded further down, attached to the chassis.
Had to dig through a couple threads about it. I was sort of incorrect; it wasn't primarily the chassis they were concerned with, it was the concern that the back deck lid doesn't look as easily removable to get in there & remove the supports. The "chassis" talk I got was another member quoting the brochure that says the wing's supports are defined as "integral to the vehicle bodyshell". Here is the cut-away though, sorry it's not bigger.Do you have that diagram handy? My immediate thought is that it would be attached to the extend C-pillar because the width of the wing mount isn't nearly wide enough to go around the engine and to a frame rail. But the C-pillar structure is still one of the strongest parts of the unibody, probably stronger vertically than the relatively horizontal portion the 991 wing was attached to.
This color and bright sunlight is not doing the car any favors obviously. There are basically no reflections or surface texturing visible. But sunny days exist, and the color and surface shaping should take that into account. In this photo, there is a lot of meat on the sides of this car just sitting there with nothing to break it up. It basically requires side stripe graphics to make the car look like less of a fat hog. Also the ratio of window to car is getting out of hand. It's this big thick car with these teeny tiny windows. The 996 and 997 had a great body to window thickness ratio...
But the 991's windows got notably thinner, and now the 992 it seems like you can barely see out of the car. They're stretched too long and too thin vertically. I realize a longer car is more stable and efficient but at what cost? The cost of the 911 not even being a rear-engined car anymore? The cost of it looking more like a Cayman than a 911? They're ruining the car's style slowly but surely, in the pursuit of exclusive supercar performance.
I'm not sure I like the direction Porsche is taking the car. Frankly, I think the 911 should be their bread and butter, the common man's Porsche, the traditional Porsche, the classic Porsche, and they should chase supercar superiority with a proper mid-engined car like...the Cayman. The roles of these two vehicles are in the wrong place, and now the 911 is evolving into mid-engined obscurity.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk. What do you guys think about the direction the 911 is taking? Is it drifting away from its origins as a relatively accessible but unique and fun sports car? Is it already too far gone? How many more generations until its genuinely just a mid-engined supercar with goofy Porsche-like styling?
A minimum of 20 mm (0.8 inch) of clearance is required between the underside of the hood and the highest part of the engine or any other hard point such as the windshield-wiper motor or the HVAC plenum. This raises not only the front of the hood but also its trailing edge by at least 0.8 inch.
With the rear edge of the hood elevated, the entire cowl must be raised a like amount—or a bit more if the designers want a wedge-shaped profile. This moves the windshield base and the dash higher as well.
A taller cowl and dash force the front seats to be raised for visibility.
With people sitting higher in the car, the roof goes up to maintain headroom.
Now that the roof is higher, the beltline (the base of the side windows) has to be lifted to keep the car from looking bubbleheaded.
The higher beltline adds sheetmetal above the rear-wheel openings, reducing the wheel-to-body ratio.
I've been mildly disappointed with the styling of every 911 generation since the 996. At least upon initial viewing. But as time goes by, I begin to appreciate them more and more and the lines I originally saw as unappealing begin to grow more attractive over the life of the model run. (I'm sorry if this is beginning to sound like an analogy of sitting at a bar, drinking heavily and becoming more enamored with every girl who walks through the door). But it's the truth as a I see it. I remember when the 991 was first introduced I thought it was the end of the 911 as we knew it, it was too big, too wide, too heavy. It had become more of a (Edit: "cruising/heavier") GT car and less of a sports car. But gradually, as the years go by, I begin to appreciate the evolution of the styling more and more. And GT cars in particular seem to bring out the best of the generation and highlight the lines in all the right places. While I initially didn't appreciate the 991, I actually think the 991.2 GT3 RS is one of the best looking Porsche GT cars ever made. That's not something I would have thought I would ever hear myself say, thinking back to the 991's introduction. And while I didn't particularly like the 992 when it was first introduced a few years ago, particularly from the rear, it's design, like that of it's predecessors, has grown on me since. And while I still think the 991.2 is a better looking car (comparing base model or S models), I actually really like the styling of the 992 GT3. Granted it looks better from some angles than from others. And the jury is still out on the interior. I have yet to sit in a 992 so I'll have to reserve judgement. Through I do appreciate Porsche's attempt to harken back to the past while still keeping it fresh and modern--not an easy task.