Porsche will not be in GT5

[Northstar]

1)I highly doubt that plays part in licensing.
2) I believe the contract with EA is up and chances are the only thing keeping them out of the GT series is money.
3) They have been in the NFS series since it started in 1994. As I said before it's all about money, if PD and Sony want to pay for the license they will.

 

[RACECAR]

I really doubt the lap times at the Nurburgring along with the PD/Nissan relationship are gonna stop Porsche from being in GT.

 

[McLaren]

I think, personally, that it is almost guaranteed that RUF will be in GT5 because they were very well represented in GT3 and GT4... But, however, I do not think porsche will be in GT5 for a number of reasons: 1) Porsche is mad at nissan regarding the GT-R (lap times at nurburgring...), and we all know how close PD and Nissan are... 2)

That assumption is just as silly as the one behind Porsche & Ruf.

Porsche has a lon-standing relationship with EA and their Need for Speed series, and might have obligations to be in their games, and not in GT... 3) Although we don't want to admit it (I am a HUGE fan of Porsches), it appears that porsche doesnt want to be in the GT series (they have been in like the last 4 or 5 Need for Speeds, and in both Forza Motorsport 1 and 2)
But thats just my opinion!

Porsche's contract ended with EA a few months after BMW's.

The only thing that is more than likely keeping Porsche out of GT is contract agreements just like they have with any other manufacturer. Manufacturers are obviously going to want PD to agree to their terms & vice versa before either one signs a contract. Neither agree or give in, then nobody signs & PD are left without a manufacturer's cars.

 

[Lucas]

Speculating that Porsche doesn't want to be in GT because they don't want their cars being beat by Rufs is stupid. Porsche doesn't care if Ruf is faster. As I said, Porsche knows Rufs will be faster because that's what Ruf originally set out to do.

Now that I think about it more carefully it is stupid in a way.

Speculating that Ferrari didn't want to be in because they didn't want damage done to their cars and have people get the wrong idea about them in a crash makes sense.

But after looking at this, why can't we think that Porsche doesn't want to be in the game because they don't want people have the wrong idea about their cars' performance?

 

[QSpec]

I really hope Porsche is in.

 

[DJMaky]

At least the new GT3 and GT2.

 

[McLaren]

But after looking at this, why can't we think that Porsche doesn't want to be in the game because they don't want people have the wrong idea about their cars' performance?

And what exactly is going to cause that? As long as PD doesn't bog their cars down to the point where stock Miatas are out running them on Daytona, Porsche probably won't care. If they did, they'd probably make sure that the GT-R never beat their GT2 in the game.

 

[zepheadGT3]

Okay then, why exactly are Porsches not going to be in GT5?

 

[McLaren]

Okay then, why exactly are Porsches not going to be in GT5?

The easiest probability is a contract being torn in disagreement.

 

[ZANELE]

screw porshe may be they are one of the reasons for GT5's delay. GT5 will be good with or without them and besides RUF will most likely be in GT5.

 

[Stevisiov]

screw porshe may be they are one of the reasons for GT5's delay. GT5 will be good with or without them and besides RUF will most likely be in GT5.

That was a nice conclusion, yeh, screw porsche, I bet its all their fault.

As has been said possibly 20 times in this thread, RUF aren't a substitute for porsche, sure they look similar but the two are completely different. By limiting GT to RUF only, then GT misses out some on arguably some of the greatest race cars ever built particularly GT and Le Mans race cars alike.

Gran Turismo 4 boasted an impressive line up of past and present Le Mans race cars, not including Porsche in that list is a real shame as Porsche are the most successful manufacture in Le Mans long history. With the addition of Ferrari, Porsche would really help bolster the line up of prototype race cars.

 

[Leonidae]

IMHO, they could be in GT5, but only if they get the sound of aircooled flat six right. they already have nailed the dreadful driving behaviour of these cars with the GT4 RUFs

 

[McLaren]

IMHO, they could be in GT5, but only if they get the sound of aircooled flat six right. they already have nailed the dreadful driving behaviour of these cars with the GT4 RUFs

Then PD must have gotten them wrong. Ruf's are amazing to drive, much like their Porsche sisters.

 

[Leonidae]

so, bouncy front end and rear end that tries to pass you if you don't have at least 3 different traction and stability programs on qualifies as amazing?

 

[McLaren]

so, bouncy front end and rear end that tries to pass you if you don't have at least 3 different traction and stability programs on qualifies as amazing?

Ruf's drive nothing like that. The front end does not bounce, and the rear end is doing what every nearly all MR cars do when being pushed.

GT4's Rufs are far from how they really drive.

 

[Leonidae]

Ah, but RUFs are tuned porsches. Stock porsches ( most of them, atleast) are softer from factory. And I believe you meant to say RR instead of MR..

 

[arvin charles]

First of all, Rufs are not tuned Porsches, Ruf uses bespoke parts. Rufs are Rufs. Period.

Secondly, Rufs are designed to be as compliant as Porsches are in daily driving. You cannot really tell the difference unless you're driving hard. As a Porsche owner who knows a Ruf owner, I can actually say that.

Thirdly, all 911s have an inherently light front end. This is due to the fact that there's no engine up front. It can be perceived as "bouncy" over rough roads. However, the plus side is that they have great turn in feel.

Lastly, 911s will not switch ends as long as you don't lift mid corner. Slow in, fast out. I should say that the rear grip should allow you to get on the throttle sooner than an MR or a FR car, but I'm not sure if PD will be able to recreate that.

 

[McLaren]

Ah, but RUFs are tuned porsches.

Nope.

Stock porsches ( most of them, atleast) are softer from factory.

And?

That has nothing to do with the assumption that Ruf front ends bounce, which they don't.

And I believe you meant to say RR instead of MR..

FR, RR, MR, whatever. The point is, push nearly any car that throws its power on the rear wheels hard enough, and the rear will try to snap through a turn.

This hardly mean Ruf's are terrible cars to drive, though. Being as close as I am to the US' only local dealer, I can tell you from first hand experience that driving a Ruf can only be compared Porsche-wise, as to driving a GT2/3/RS model. I've never felt a Carrera or a Turbo drive anything like the way a RGT does.

 

[Mustangmiha]

i really can't understand that cars like Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari aren't in any GT. no, i'm not fan of any of these cars, but they can be like in NFS, Test Drive etc. why they can't be in GT but they can be in stupid arcade games?? this is really annoying. why we must drive Cizetta or Ruf??

 

[RACECAR]

i really can't understand that cars like Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari aren't in any GT. no, i'm not fan of any of these cars, but they can be like in NFS, Test Drive etc. why they can't be in GT but they can be in stupid arcade games?? this is really annoying. why we must drive Cizetta or Ruf??

While I can see your point on why those three brands(with the exception of Ferrari as of late) appear on games like NFS and not GT, I do ask what is wrong with Cizeta and Ruf? They are legitimate Manufacterers.

 

[Northstar]

i really can't understand that cars like Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari aren't in any GT. no, i'm not fan of any of these cars, but they can be like in NFS, Test Drive etc. why they can't be in GT but they can be in stupid arcade games?? this is really annoying. why we must drive Cizetta or Ruf??

Cizeta doesn't tune anything and has only made one car, the V16T which is al original. The reason it looks like a Diablo is because the same person helped design both cars.

 

[McLaren]

i really can't understand that cars like Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari aren't in any GT. no, i'm not fan of any of these cars, but they can be like in NFS, Test Drive etc. why they can't be in GT but they can be in stupid arcade games?? this is really annoying. why we must drive Cizetta or Ruf??

Why must we constantly drive Skylines, NSXs, and any other car in the game that has multiple variations? Because Polyphony believes they are a part of automotive history.

The Cizeta V16T is a very historical vehicle. It is what the Diablo was originally designed to be. And Ruf has already set its place in history with the Yellowbird. Everyone is so used to the usual manufacturers. It won't kill you to see what more uncommon, but just as amazing cars drive like.

 

[Lucas]

I never heard of Cizeta or Ruf for that matter, but I must admit I was impressed at Ruf's cars, at least from the game. No one knows whether I will be able to drive a Ruf in real life. Hopefully I will.

 

[Jay]

It won't kill you to see what more uncommon, but just as amazing cars drive like.

Thats part of whats great about Gran Turismo, not only do we see manufacturers which are not well known (on a global scale) but paticular unknown or generally ignored models too.

Pretty much every other racing/driving game/sim goes for all the typical flavour of the month cars.

 

[Northstar]

Thats part of whats great about Gran Turismo, not only do we see manufacturers which are not well known (on a global scale) but paticular unknown or generally ignored models too.

Pretty much every other racing/driving game/sim goes for all the typical flavour of the month cars.

I agree, GT has a lot of brands that are either not in any other racing games(Gillet, Dome, Chapparell.etc.)they also have featured brands before others games have.

 

[snowboardfan]

agreed, it's great fun to find an unusual gem of a car in GT, but at the same time i would like to have those more well known cars and manufacturers in the mix too. I will continue to keep my fingers crossed for Porsche, Lamborghini, Koeniggsegg, Bugati and more

 

[Delphic Reason]

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Do not waste site bandwidth by posting useless messages. If you have something to say, say it. If not, don't. Simple as that.

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[Zlimness]

Indeed, what sets GT apart from the rest is the inclusion of true classics. Street and rally setups of famous Group B cars for example or the concept cars. I mean damn, the BMW E60 M5 was already in that game and they even had the Audi R8 concept! There's just so many cars in GT4 that was clearly hand picked by somehow who knows motorsport history.

But come on. Porsche is absolutely essential for GT5. The Cizeta V16T and Skyline R34 V-Spec II N1 is important, but the entire history of Porsche isn't? It just seems wierd that Kaz would spend so much time putting in clown cars and not having a decent selection of the more important stuff. Do we really need BMW 120d or Z4 when most of the M-cars are missing? I know Im ranting now, but Im passionate about racing games and GT is one of my favorites. Its fun to drive some of these ******** once in a while, but at least make sure the important cars are in the first.

Fixed:Watch the language!

Delphic Reason

 

[zepheadGT3]

Agreed. There are alot of cars in GT4 that are also going to be in GT5 that we really don't need (ex. Jay Leno's Tank Car, or the Art Morison Corvette). PD shouldn't be worrying about such obscure goofy cars that most people just wont drive, and instead trying to get more modern and classic european sports cars, (Japan was very well represented in GT4 and im positive will be again in GT5...) including Porsche....

 

[Delphic Reason]

Zlimness:

Watch the language. I edited your post to remove the questionable choice of words.

Thank you