Problems whid the new Nissan GT-R N24. Academy 12

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MR-LEV
As soon as I toke the GTR N24 on the track and a applied light breaks on the first corner, the back went into a drift, I had racing soft tires, and rear and front breaks force reduced to 1, ABS was reduced to 1. I have tried adjusting the suspension, limited slip differential, increasing ABS to 10, but the car still would act the same way like as if I had comforts tires and no ABS whed the rear break forced to 10.

Please help... :indiff:
 
Weird.. I've been breaking this car in on BSpec while I've been at work, I'll check it out when I get home in 2.5 hrs! 👍
 
Unavoidable
As soon as I toke the GTR N24 on the track and a applied light breaks on the first corner, the back went into a drift, I had racing soft tires, and rear and front breaks force reduced to 1, ABS was reduced to 1. I have tried adjusting the suspension, limited slip differential, increasing ABS to 10, but the car still would act the same way like as if I had comforts tires and no ABS whed the rear break forced to 10.

Please help... :indiff:
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Find a proven GTR tune and apply it and see what happens.
 
The car has a great stock setup, at least I'm having more fun with in that any other R35. It's clearly not a setup for hotlapping but keep in mind that this is an endurance race car. There must be a reason why it is setup this way. I like how small brake inputs can be used to adjust turn in but it's certainly not fast. Seems to be a setup for reliability rather than sprint.
 
Nielsen
. Seems to be a setup for reliability rather than sprint.
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Toe settings of -1.00/+0.50 , unreliable, due to taking out entire fleet of cars behind me in first 2 turns at Nordschleife. I never would have thought those were default settings (mistakingly??) left there by PD modellers. Car sounds pretty good though.
 
After my last post, I have talked to several people that have the same car, and it appears to be a common problem. I even attempt to reinstall the game, and all DLC including GT-R the problem remains. Looks like a developer of this car needs to get some sleep and release a hot fix for it.
 
I beat the best lap of the same car from its qualifying session at the real N24 some months ago. The real best lap was about 8:59 and I did in 8:56, completely stock with racing soft tyres. There is nothing wrong with the car guys, just learn to master it.
 
Racingworld68
This car comes with a bad stock setup, but this should help :

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6027375#post6027375
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This tune may not work very well because the front diff. on the 2012 car can't be changed. And it's the stock LSD settings that make this car hard to handle. All R35's behave this way ,but this particular car exaggerates the behavior because of it's speed, weight, rigid chassis, and grippy tyres.

I would suggest trying a stable rear LSD setup like 10/ 40/ 20. It seems to balance out the open diff. at the front.
 
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Wow, if you are having trouble driving this car... Try adjusting the brake bias. Mine is set at 3F2R. Otherwise you need to learn to drive. You kids expect every car to handle like its on rails. Its a simulator, this is how the car drives. Adjust your driving style, which probably sucks.
 
RMSpec7
You kids expect every car to handle like its on rails. Its a simulator, this is how the car drives. Adjust your driving style, which probably sucks.
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Best.
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Someone here has the right idea. This car seems designed to be more stable at speed, rather than under deceleration. If it's twitchy, that means it's quick to react, which can easily force drivers to overcompensate too harshly. It's definitely tricky, but you've got to micro-manage this car into fast laps, not grab it by the balls.

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Oh, and welcome to GTP.
 
Nielsen
I beat the best lap of the same car from its qualifying session at the real N24 some months ago. The real best lap was about 8:59 and I did in 8:56, completely stock with racing soft tyres. There is nothing wrong with the car guys, just learn to master it.
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Okay, listen here. Beat the lap time with racing hards and then we're talking an achievement. Racing sifts have grip beyond possibility almost, so that's just making you sound like you're using tires to make up for driving skills, and I'm sure that's not the case.

But mastering the car? Anybody can master almost any car with tires that soft. Try driving the car with the default tires, you'll realize what actually mastering a car is.
 
I love the car. And the yellow headlights are awesome :) The only thing I miss is a proper Nürburgring 24H event to race it in... but I guess it would be pretty competitive at the 4H event.

If the back went into drift you probably took the corner too fast, try to slow down before entering the corner. It's basically what most of the license tests are trying to teach you ;)
 
7:32.xxx here with stock N24 GTR '12, no oil change, less than 50 miles on the odo, sports soft tires, no ABS, no other aids at Nordshcleife. Default tune is okay.
 
MrMelancholy15
Go elsewhere to smacktalk, please... and let's discuss the setups now, shall we?
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I'm not smacktalking, grow up.

On topic, I've driven the car, and I'm having the same problem as everybody else. But I found that making the front spring harder and the rear softer really helps keep the weight at the back. Add a few differential changes, and it's braking better. Not well, but better.
 
I suggest to put more front bias brake balance, mine has 10/4 with no ABS, so 9/3 or 8/2 or 7/1 or 6/0 would worth a try. Reduce rear value another 1 to reduce the chances the rear stepping out under heavy braking, this is with stock tune.
 
What I don't get is, you're supposed to try and brake in as straight of a line as possible. So unless there's a lot of banking, or unless you're trying to shove your hand down the car's throat you're driving so hard, you shouldn't have much of the problem if you're using any good driving techniques.

A post on the previous page put it perfectly. Not every car is going to handle like the X2011. You've gotta actually have skill to drive cars sometimes. I know that seems like a hard concept for some of you to understand, but it's how the world works. Sorry.
 
I've never found a tuning problem I can't fix, since the Option Stream Z drift project. This is a new project of mine, Kin.
 
MrMelancholy15
Ridox, how does the Front Toe setting feel? I trust your "instinct" in that regard.
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The car is pretty stable as it is, the aggressive toe at the front and rear makes the transition from entering and exiting a corner sometimes violent. Careful brake and throttle is a must, and above 150 mph, the car will be much harder to change direction, so lifting off the throttle is necessary to turn. I find the 1st sector at Nordschleife is fun with the car, the 1st few s bends are great to get used to the car braking and steering.

The real car might handle the same as in game, I find that with more laps, the car seems getting easier to throw around corners, very stable at the nose but also a bit nervous at the rear, a bizarre combo - but it works.

Front toe, no matter how crazy the value, does the job quite well, just need some adaptation.
 
I'm curious if the toe is the cause, though, for most problems...


I'll make a n00b tune, to help those who aren't as talented as you, Ridox.


Thanks for the info.
 
MrMelancholy15
I've never found a tuning problem I can't fix, since the Option Stream Z drift project. This is a new project of mine, Kin.
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Oh no, I wasn't talking directly to you. I just meant anybody who was saying that the car's impossible to drive. Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying you can't drive or anything.
 
MrMelancholy15
I'm curious if the toe is the cause, though, for most problems...


I'll make a n00b tune, to help those who aren't as talented as you, Ridox.


Thanks for the info.
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The toe value does cause trouble if the driver is unfamiliar with the car's reaction close to the limit. I didn't push the car hard when I 1st drive the car, I just coast around then gradually tried to push a bit more. It's not the tune, with more time and familiarity, I am sure anyone can drive the car well.

Please, I am not talented, I am learning to drive the car even as we speak, the N24 is one hell of a unique GTR ever in GT5.

Another thing, when 1st time I drive a new car I've never encounter, I always fit low grip tires, comfort tires. Then I drive the car slowly, learning it's traits, quirks and feedback, once I feel comfortable, I increase my pace. Drive faster but still brake earlier and exit later, after that fit the tires that comes with the car or step up to sports tires. Try the car at various tracks and slowly I felt driving the car more enjoyable.
 
Yes, Ridox, I agree. I plan on tuning on comfort tires, to start, so that driving on racing tires is easy.


However, in your signature alone, I see proof of talent. Not everyone can drive on comfort tires. I prefer 500 PP, but, I can drive any car at those specs, with any compound, but 600 pp on comfort tires would be a challenge...
 
Unavoidable
As soon as I toke the GTR N24 on the track and a applied light breaks on the first corner, the back went into a drift, I had racing soft tires, and rear and front breaks force reduced to 1, ABS was reduced to 1. I have tried adjusting the suspension, limited slip differential, increasing ABS to 10, but the car still would act the same way like as if I had comforts tires and no ABS whed the rear break forced to 10.

Please help... :indiff:
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Brake in a straight line mate.
 
I confirm that this gtr has the bug? because when I see info of new gtr nurburgring academy i said 4x4? :sick: when I go to try from me the rear-wheel drive! :odd:
 

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