Project Motor Racing General Discussion

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Titzon Toast
Are you playing with a wheel, or a controller?
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Wheel and simple rig.

My issue is going to be, as a PS4PRO user, to play PMR I have to buy a PS5. I'm not reading much that makes ponying up $500 to play ONE game (that still appears to be in beta) good financial sense.

Most of the issues with PMR seem to be old friends (!) from PC2, and that game didn't get CLOSE to fixed for TWO YEARS after launch. I decided to skip the first year of PC2 (I was running GT6 on a PS3 until they shut the servers) and still had to deal with bugfix after bugfix for yet another year.

I'm not getting the vibe that PMR is going to receive that degree of attention. But feel free to prove me wrong, PMR!

I'm no kid, so have no really urgent need that the latest cars and liveries are up to date, and yes, the few new tracks would be great, but I would have to lose so many to gain so few. Maybe my previous strategy will work here. Wait a year...

I guess by then we'll see if PMR development is ongoing or has been abandoned.
 
Fossilized
Wheel and simple rig.

My issue is going to be, as a PS4PRO user, to play PMR I have to buy a PS5. I'm not reading much that makes ponying up $500 to play ONE game (that still appears to be in beta) good financial sense.

Most of the issues with PMR seem to be old friends (!) from PC2, and that game didn't get CLOSE to fixed for TWO YEARS after launch. I decided to skip the first year of PC2 (I was running GT6 on a PS3 until they shut the servers) and still had to deal with bugfix after bugfix for yet another year.

I'm not getting the vibe that PMR is going to receive that degree of attention. But feel free to prove me wrong, PMR!

I'm no kid, so have no really urgent need that the latest cars and liveries are up to date, and yes, the few new tracks would be great, but I would have to lose so many to gain so few. Maybe my previous strategy will work here. Wait a year...

I guess by then we'll see if PMR development is ongoing or has been abandoned.
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I get it now alright, it's a big ask to spend that much money for one game alright.
That said though, the PS5 is a lot more powerful than a PS4 Pro and you'll get the benefits of running your PS4 titles on it I'd say.

The last couple of updates have really improved the game, and this next promises even more.
 
I only sim race, and I only really like playing one game. As every game seems to have radically different physics, FFB etc, multiple games just end up confusing your technique and diluting your focus.

Apparently PC2 runs poorly on the PS5 (graphics issues), definitely not as well as on my PS4Pro. So zero upside to a PS5 atm...

When PMR is acknowledged as being all around better than PC2 (particularly the size of the online player base), that's the day I migrate.

Let's hope v2.0 forces my hand!
 
Fossilized
I only sim race, and I only really like playing one game. As every game seems to have radically different physics, FFB etc, multiple games just end up confusing your technique and diluting your focus.

Apparently PC2 runs poorly on the PS5 (graphics issues), definitely not as well as on my PS4Pro. So zero upside to a PS5 atm...

When PMR is acknowledged as being all around better than PC2 (particularly the size of the online player base), that's the day I migrate.

Let's hope v2.0 forces my hand!
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I hadn't heard that about PCars 2 tbh, that's disappointing.
I was actually looking forward to firing it back up again and having a go on it.
I was hoping it was actually going run better with the extra power. Typical!
 
Fossilized
I only sim race, and I only really like playing one game. As every game seems to have radically different physics, FFB etc, multiple games just end up confusing your technique and diluting your focus.

Apparently PC2 runs poorly on the PS5 (graphics issues), definitely not as well as on my PS4Pro. So zero upside to a PS5 atm...

When PMR is acknowledged as being all around better than PC2 (particularly the size of the online player base), that's the day I migrate.

Let's hope v2.0 forces my hand!
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Definitely agree, i play multiple simracing games and whenever I switch between them, it always takes me a minute to adjust to that game's physics, ffb, etc. Also, I play PC2 on ps5 and never had any issues. Hopefully update 2.0 will improve the game much further.
 
Fossilized
I only sim race, and I only really like playing one game. As every game seems to have radically different physics, FFB etc, multiple games just end up confusing your technique and diluting your focus.

Apparently PC2 runs poorly on the PS5 (graphics issues), definitely not as well as on my PS4Pro. So zero upside to a PS5 atm...

When PMR is acknowledged as being all around better than PC2 (particularly the size of the online player base), that's the day I migrate.

Let's hope v2.0 forces my hand!
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Pmr online is dead basically, unless they put it on a huge discount, 2.0 won't change the situation
 
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Mattylatvala
Pmr online is dead basically, unless they put it on a huge discount, 2.0 won't change the situation
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The problem is that you can't join lobbies once they've stated and the game only shows lobbies that haven't started yet.
It's not a great system and it gives the impression that people aren't playing when in fact, they are.

BlackLeopard9
Definitely agree, i play multiple simracing games and whenever I switch between them, it always takes me a minute to adjust to that game's physics, ffb, etc. Also, I play PC2 on ps5 and never had any issues. Hopefully update 2.0 will improve the game much further.
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So it does work ok?
Is there any chance you could share some settings for me to try please?
I might download it tonight for the craic.
 
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Titzon Toast
I get it now alright, it's a big ask to spend that much money for one game alright.
That said though, the PS5 is a lot more powerful than a PS4 Pro and you'll get the benefits of running your PS4 titles on it I'd say.

The last couple of updates have really improved the game, and this next promises even more.
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Honestly, PS5 isn't worth it even when I own one. Yes it looks prettier, yes it loads faster but there is no huge leap. Games don't really seem to get the performance out of the PS5 and so many games are in a completely unfinished state or are remasters. That said, I really like PMR since it offers great variation but I still like Driveclub more 🤣

I think you should hold on your ps4 for one more year and then pick up the racegames you like during a sale🤷

Sorry this was a message for @Fossilized
 
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Titzon Toast
The problem is that you can't join lobbies once they've stated and the game only shows lobbies that haven't started yet.
It's not a great system and it gives the impression that people aren't playing when in fact, they are.


So it does work ok?
Is there any chance you could share some settings for me to try please?
I might download it tonight for the craic.
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Do you mean like visual settings or ffb settings?
 
BlackLeopard9
Do you mean like visual settings or ffb settings?
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Either or, I actually just used Google Ai there and it gave me some detailed settings to try.
They're probably crap but they might be a decent starting point.
I'm gonna give them a go anyway.
 
Titzon Toast
Either or, I actually just used Google Ai there and it gave me some detailed settings to try.
They're probably crap but they might be a decent starting point.
I'm gonna give them a go anyway.
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Okay, here we go (deep breath)
Visual settings:
-Graphics bias: enhanced resolution
-post-processing filters: on
-exterior sun flare: full
-interior sun flare: subtle
bloom: on
heat haze: on
exposure compensation: 1.00
Vignette: yes
Crepuscular rays: yes
cockpit mirrors: on

ffb settings: (I have a T-GT 2, so you might have to adjust depending on the wheel you're using)
-steering sensitivity: 70 (I only set this high to help make the cars more responsive, but you can adjust to your preference)
-flavour: raw
-Gain: 60-85
-volume: 40-51
Tone: 50
FX: 30
Again, you might have to adjust ffb depending on your wheel, but I find this to be a good base to balance all the settings in the game. Hope this helps!
 
BlackLeopard9
Okay, here we go (deep breath)
Visual settings:
-Graphics bias: enhanced resolution
-post-processing filters: on
-exterior sun flare: full
-interior sun flare: subtle
bloom: on
heat haze: on
exposure compensation: 1.00
Vignette: yes
Crepuscular rays: yes
cockpit mirrors: on

ffb settings: (I have a T-GT 2, so you might have to adjust depending on the wheel you're using)
-steering sensitivity: 70 (I only set this high to help make the cars more responsive, but you can adjust to your preference)
-flavour: raw
-Gain: 60-85
-volume: 40-51
Tone: 50
FX: 30
Again, you might have to adjust ffb depending on your wheel, but I find this to be a good base to balance all the settings in the game. Hope this helps!
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I know that was a huge effort!
You're a gentleman, I'm going to try them out tomorrow evening for sure.
Thank you very much.
 
I've noticed that in Porsche 992 cup races, the AI cars will either pit on lap 8 or lap 9. I'm running 10 lap races so I don't know why they are pitting.
 
Enzo_P1_GTR
Any chance they do something with PSSR 2 on the ps5 pro for this game?
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We will be happy if game will run smoothly, with right physics...
But they should implement it bcs they stated working on better look too.
 
I read a fair bit about PC2 PS5 being too dark at times, some night stuff being close to unplayable. And while a slightly faster load up time would be cool, online it doesn't help if others with PS4's slow it all back down. Quite honestly, PC2's load times weren't bad, and gave you time to get your head in the right place!

I am certainly disappointed that S4S didn't learn their lesson from PC2 about showing ALL lobbies even the full ones. Yes, that certainly gives the impression fewer are playing, plus you tend to hang out and see if a slot opens for a room that's racing stuff you want to drive if you can see it.

GT7 fixes the problem by having a user filter for full rooms if you don't want to see them. The OBVIOUS solution to anyone but S4S 🙄

I'm a little unclear about not joining PMR lobbies once they've started though... do you mean once the race has started (which is correct) or you can't join during practice or qualy? You could do the latter in PC2, and you could join a room as a spectator after a race started...

But that was the problem with full lobbies becoming invisible. No way to tell if room full (all 16 racing) or room full (but only 12 racing and 4 watching). Do the cross platform lobbies share room titles now? Was always a PITA that the PC guys could title the room (clean, practice, dirty etc) but consoles couldn't. GTP OLR lobbies in GT5/6 could always be counted on for clean racing).

Another PMR question... can hosts kick griefers and they can't get back in? PC2 started with the host able to kick, but SMS nerfed it because some idiot hosts were starting races then kicking EVERYBODY to get an easy win. A dumb solution to a problem that would correct itself (you never race in someone's room again that did that!) quite quickly.

It became virtually impossible to kick a griefer without setting up a private locked room, which kills casual racing. Once again, Gran Turismo did it right (hosts can kick), SMS did it wrong. Sometimes you have to wonder if anyone at SMS (or S4S!) had ever spent much time with Gran Turismo's lobby system. No shame in copying WHAT WORKS!
 
I’ve just looked through the Endurance Hall and Factory Driver events and they don’t seem to have changed since release.
Am i missing something, or have they just not added any more?

On a very different subject, any general setup tips for Sebring and Daytona please?

Is Daytona generally considered a low downforce track?

P.s. as of writing this i think the servers may be having issues, as when i click on “Multiplayer” it just says “connecting”, and never moves on ffs
 
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Mathaios_C
Still full price since lunch on ps store. Hopefully this is the right week.
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If they cut the price of Year 1, I would surely buy it.
Now good thinking about it...

But 2.0 goes online few days earlier so it will be easier to make decision.
 
zaxs
If they cut the price of Year 1, I would surely buy it.
Now good thinking about it...

But 2.0 goes online few days earlier so it will be easier to make decision.
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I am patiently waiting!! I have 50€ ready to use on the ps store. I am still debating whether buying Tokyo extreme or project motor racing 😂
 
Mathaios_C
I am patiently waiting!! I have 50€ ready to use on the ps store. I am still debating whether buying Tokyo extreme or project motor racing 😂
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Really a tough decision! I have both and am happy... So, you cannot do something wrong. 😂
 

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