Pros and Cons of Your Car

[rollazn]

Here you guys can post your personal opinion on your car, and what the pro and cons of it are. Since I don't have a car at the moment I will post about my dad (and the car I am currently driving) Infiniti I30T.

Pros:
Cons:
Verdict:

2001 Infiniti I30T

Pros: It has a very good 3.0L V6, and has a great stereo system. It has enough power and torque but a little more couldn't hurt. It has great leg room, although I feel too big in the driver seat. The touring model has better sport tuned suspention then the regular I30. Good amount of trunk room along with good back seat room. Basically it's roomy.

Cons: Overpriced. It's basically a rebadged Maxima. Heavy and could use more power. Known for brake problems, including sqeauking brakes.

Verdict: I felt that this car isn't worth the amount of money my dad paid. But it wasn't my choice. The Infiniti I30T is an overpriced Maxima.

This may sound like my Pro and Con games, but this is about your car or in my case my parent's car.

 

[Sage]

'94 Ford Ranger

Pros – Clutch isn't picky (huge grabbing point). Old enough that nobody cares how dirty it is. Comfortable seats, working vanity mirrors. V-6 enough to climb the grapevine portion of the I-5 without dying (or having to have to keep speeds above 70).

Cons – Typical truck shifter *CLUNK*. Bad axle hop. A/C broken (absolutely terrible after it's been sitting in the school parking lot in direct sunlight all day). Radio gets increasingly staticky the higher the fan is set (weird, I know). Steering and steering wheel feel like garbage. B-pillar a bit too large – I almost hit a truck in my blind spot because of that. No way to defrost the rear window.

Verdict – It works, it's free, I can't complain. I don't think I'll ever willingly buy a truck though.

 

[Event]

1989 Oldmsobile Delta 88

pros- V6, cost me $350, little work needed, starts, gets me around, nice back seat , very comfortable seats all around, A/C, power windows and locks, small crack in radiator.

Cons- My lawnmower has more torque than this..., The ceiling upholstrey is coming down, poor gas mileage, very slow power windows.

the best part of any car I get is that my dad can do all of the brake work and most engine work. He only can't do transmission work or cooling/heating work.

 

[Jay]

1995 Nissan Skyline GTS25T

pros- Its a Skyline, turbo and good stuff


cons- Cops try and pick on me (and other imports), tyres go bald quickly, spend to much on fuel because I cant get out of it, always worried about when I park.

 

[Nasadus]

2004 Mazda RX-8

Pros:
-Sharp and responsive handling
-Sweet steering and shifter
-Front seat comfort and support
-Rear seat room
-Rotary engine
-Superior brakes
-Practicality
-Incredible power
-Engine is very quiet
-Value

Cons:
-Rotary engine's different maintenance schedule requires more commitment
-Poor fuel economy in city driving(better after break in period)
-Could use more low-end torque
-Digital speedometer
-Small trunk(it's a sportscar,what do you expect)

Verdict:
Mazda has succeeded in creating a true four door, four seat sports car that still maintains the dimensions, looks, and handling of what you would expect with such a car. The RX-8 has the performance to match some of the best cars out there, while maintaining the practicality that was lacking in its sports car competition that prevented me (and others) from taking the plunge. Now that that impediment has been lifted, I bought the car,and that is the highest recommendation I can give it.

 

[Goomba]

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX

+ More power than my last two cars combined.
+ Enough safety features to make it a relatively cheap car to insure.
+ You have to love to sound of the flat 4.
+ Very reliable, even after basic, safe (the EJ20 can't handle +20 PSI very well) modifications.
+ Turbocharged is they way to go at 5800ft above sea level.

- I'm an idiot and its almost a constant drain on my wallet.
- 4th gear blows.

= It's a lovely car that I enjoy every day.

GTChamp, is that your RX8 in the avatar? Very sexy. Black cars rock 👍

 

[Nasadus]

Yes the car in my avatar is my RX-8.I posted some pictures in an other thread.If u want to see them go here.

 

[Blackbird.]

My dad's Roush STage 2

pros:

• very, VERY nice sounding exhaust system
• sounds powerful
• the seats mold to your body when you take tight turns
• the wheels and front fascia are fasinating

cons:

• It's not as powerful as it sounds, only about 260hp
• the seats are oversized, they are completely touching the doors
• the car's maintenance cost too much, almost $500 per tire and almost $450 per wheel; $2,000 just for a pair of tires and wheels!

Verdit = It's probably a fun car to drive and it's a joyride to be the passenger, yet it's pleasures come consequences.

 

[Goomba]

Yes the car in my avatar is my RX-8.I posted some pictures in an other thread.If u want to see them go here.

Thats a very aggressive looking car ya' got there.

Blackbird, what size tires and brands does your dad have one that Mustang?!

 

[Blackbird.]

I don't know the tire size but I do know that he has 18" for the rims if that helps, but the make is BFGoodrich.

 

[MazKid]

Car tested: 1988 Mazda 323 SE Hatch

Pros: Peppy 1.6L I4. Sporty 3 door design. Tweed seats keep you planted. Handling is above avarage in this segment. Bridgestone Teranza LS-Ts are the perfect compromise between smooth ride, long tread life, and a smudge of performance. A/C blows very cold. Steering wheel upgraded to '79 RX-7 wheel, that coupled with the small amount of power steering force create a setup that makes the driver really feel the road and preciseness in cornering. 4 speed automatic transmission shifts hard enough into 2nd to break the tires loose on many surfaces, giving you a sort of boost into 2nd. Powerband of the 1.6 gives the max torque(92 ft lbs) at just 2,500rpm and max horsepower at 5,000RPM, with a 6K redline, and the engine pulls hard all the way through the rpm range, and even past the redline. Slam on the throttle and you'll get instant power and the sound of performance. This is the car you can do 0-80 runs in every day on the way to school, and cruise down the highway at 70 with very little noise for what it is. 323 LX alloy wheels add class, as does the various chrome trim found in strategic points around the exterior. The interior is grey with dark grey dash and side panels, no odd color configurations in this car. This car also features the upgraded 323 gauge cluster featuring a tach. Speedometer is a 3/4 circle going up to 120mph, tachometer is a likewise 3/4 circle showing up to 8K with a clear redline at 6. Other options not found on normal 323 SEs: tilt steering columb, hieght adjust driver's seat and lumbar adjust, dome light with map lights, digital clock, and dual horns.

Cons: Car is out-dated for the US(however is still sold in slower trims in Columbia and just a couple of years ago in South Africa). 4 speed automatic only allows flat out driving up to 3rd gear which redlines at 98mph. Get it into 4th and be careful on the throttle, even if you're going 102, if you push the throttle a tad too hard it will downshift to 3rd and spin the engine well past the redline. Gearing is not oriented for highway onramps where acceleration/deceleration happen frequently. It will produce less than happy shifts due to the gearing. The 5 speed manual is definately the right choice in this car if you want better performance. Steering has a very small but noticeable on straight roads dead-zone. Several rust spots at the bottom corners of the wheel wells. Some door dings, and the passenger side of the car is destroyed after a run in with a yellow Dakota and the stupid lady driving it. Engine also sounds like a tractor when stopped. A/C, while cold, causes a drastic loss of power, making the A/C button your best friend when you want to switch from power to comfort. Windnoise at 75+ speeds is loud but tolerable since you are in a 323. Driver's floormat has down-to-the-rubber wear due to my dad's big feet. Car lacks a rear wiper, so any kind of condensation in the morning makes you take a rag and wipe off the back window so that you can see out of it. Rear defroster works but heats slowly. On a cold day with an iced up rear window, by the time I pull into the school parking lot it's just starting to really clear up. Fuel gauge is accurate down to about a quarter tank; you'll get to your destination then come back to the car later and that 1/4 tank showing on the gauge will now be 1/8 tank and if the car takes a while to start up you know you need gas ASAP. Gas milage is great, if you drive on the highway or other steady-speed road. With this car, remember, any kind of acceleration reduces gas mileage, and just trying to accelerate with traffic really cuts it down.

The Verdict: The 323 is a brilliant car whose time has passed. It wants, well, allows you to go flat out up cloverleafs and pull 95 down the highway, zip through traffic and haul a big amount of whatever you want to in the hatch, but 82hp is only fun in the rain and snow. Having a mint 323 turn into just another one with the passenger side destroyed lessens the car's appeal.

Follow up: Stay tuned as the 323's restoration occurs in the next several weeks/months. Also keep your eyes open for MazKid's next Mazda.

 

[JNasty4G63]

'97 Talon TSi AWD

Pros:
- Very fast, I'm sneaking up on 10's (with street tires)
- Great looking, '97-'98 Talon has the best shape and look of all DSMs in my opinion
- AWD, which helps here in the midwest in the winter
- Minus my wheels and the exhaust, its bone stock on the outside, very decent sleeper
- I've grown to like the interior of the 2G

Cons:
- When you run low 11s, you use lots of gas, that sucks
- AWD means you don't spin tires, you fry clutches and break stuff
- The stupid 2G window and sunroof rattle, I've tried to fix them both at least 3 times, still suck
- Its black, looks great when its freshly washed, looks like total shiz when not
- The 2G is really heavy, which is not good for going fast

Overall:
I love this car. Its the best looking stock DSM, and looks real mean in black. I've kept it to a bare minimum on the outside. If you look close, you can see the FMIC. After that, the wheels, exhaust, and the slight lowering are all that would tell you its not stock. For people who know these cars, they can tell. But, you'd be shocked at how many other people think its just some lowered 2G with wheels and an exhaust. The car is a blast on the street, to say the least. And, having AWD is great for winter here in the midwest. Car gets around just fine with snow tires, even with over 500hp. Overall, there are a few things that I'd like better or changed, but every car has those. The positives are far greater than the negatives though. I love this car.

Hilg

 

[Blackbird.]

Thats a very aggressive looking car ya' got there.

Blackbird, what size tires and brands does your dad have one that Mustang?!

Well I got from my dad they are Z Rated BFGoodrich tires. There fat asses. Those things take up so much road. They're about 2 and a half feet wide.

 

[High-Test]

Cons: Overpriced. It's basically a rebadged Maxima. Heavy and could use more power. Known for brake problems, including sqeauking brakes.

LOL!!! Roll- my dad's I30 has had absolutely hideous brake problems for the last three years, he's probably had them fixed at least once a year. (and it didn't help)
It's also really sluggish. (I've driven a 92 corolla that was more responsive)

My 1992 Lexus SC300-

Pros- It's a lexus! it's fast(ish) A/C is ice cold 2JZGE has alot of get up n go in it.

Cons- 160,000 miles, my dad has practically trashed the interior(and it's just starting to fall apart) the windows are tinted a really ugly purpleish color, the driver's side mirror is cracked,

Verdict: since I'm 15, I can't legally drive it yet(alone), but that's just the impression I get of the car when I've driven it with my dad.

 

[neanderthal]

1976 BMW 2002 i dont have a picture of mine, but this is a bmw 2002

pros
*light at 2300lbs (early models like the one in the picture were even lighter.)
*RWD
*near perfect weight distribution
*upright glass imparts an open airy feeling
*basic geomatric shapes and upright glass make it ridiculsouly easy to park. you can see every corner clearly
*all independent suspension (front struts, rear trailing arms) remember this is a car that debutted in the sixties
*powered brakes (front discs rear drums) again, the car debutted in the sixties
*distinguished from every other car out there. certainly not ordinary by any measure you wont lose it in a parking lot and you probably will be the only one on any road
*great fuel economy (high 20s freeway and even more when paired with a 5spd from a 320i)
*decent power for chassis results in nice overall balance or engine brakes and suspension
*even though it didnt come with a stereo, using a basic head unit, front 6" and rear 6X9s you get very good sound and dont need a box for decent bass.

cons must think hard here.
* try getting smog parts if yours is a 1976 california model like mine.
* needs an overdrive (see fuel economy about tranny swap)
* brakes are overworked as soon as you start to add performance
* poor lighting. this is really more of a DOT regulation thing than a design thing as the euro cars had much brighter lighting with the same wattage bulbs
* cooling sytem is marginal. bigger/ more efficient radiator a must before you upgrade the engine
* no factory air. dealer/ port installed units were also marginal at best.

 

[iceburns288]

Car: 1963 Studebaker Avanti

Pros: The car has great power, especially for it's day (just before true muscle cars hit the streets) with 290hp. The Paxton supercharger keeps the power coming throughout the range, and it pulls hard from virtually any street speed. The chrome wires look stunning on the car, it's surely a looker. It's one of the few truly aerodynamic cars from the 60's, yet it's still a beautiful car. It's also been repainted in a lovely Mercedes blue, and looks great in the sun. The interior is very roomy and comfortable and fairly stylish to top it off. The aura of the car is awesome too, any teenager would want it lol.

Cons: First of all, safety. This car has no seatbelts, airbags, crumple zones, or any modern safety feature, pretty much. Teenagers are more likely to get into accidents and an unsafe car like this one is not ideal. The gas mileage isn't particularly Sierra-Club approved as well. Insurance is going to be a bear! The interior has some leather, which is nice, but there are some vinyls present to balance the equation a wee bit. The passenger seat is also screwed up and tilts to one side.

Verdict: This car is so pimpin, but I don't really want it because it is SO unsafe (and fast, which doesn't help) and the running cost is in the sky. Gas, insurance, parts (gotta keep the car original y0!) and managing to not drive it too much.

 

[Quick_Nick]

My car is a 1991 3000GT VR-4

Pros:

-2 large 14 psi turbo chargers for good torque
-2 innercoolers add more torque
-smooth valvetrain & short stroke lets it rev high
-perfect balance of high RPM & high torque give it a strong 300 hp
-Awd makes for great grip under hard acceleration
-Aws makes for great high speed handling
-powerful climate control system
-comfortable power driver seat
-seats 3 passengers
-low drag coefficient of .33
-0-60 time of 5.3 seconds
-max speed of 170 mph
-wide track & wide tires give it exceptional stability & grip
-awesome looking car, especially the wrap around tail light
-electronically adjustable suspension
-good cargo room with such a short wheel base
-strong downforce from a fully active rear spoiler & front venturi skirt
-it's often less expensive used than other sportscars because it's underrated & widely available

cons:

-hard to work on
-770 lbs overweight, limiting its performance
-police notice me
-I pay over $1,000 every 6 months for insurance
-the transmission feels notchy & long throw
-analog speedometer
-max speed is electronically limited to 155 even though the car can go 170
-heavy understeer at low speeds
-it can't handle steep approach angles
-it has anti lock brakes
-it's off balance with a 58% front weight distribution
-retractable headlights (when up) are ugly, heavy, unnecessary & unaerodynamic
-spare tire is too small with a recommended speed limit of 50 mph

 

[rollazn]

LOL!!! Roll- my dad's I30 has had absolutely hideous brake problems for the last three years, he's probably had them fixed at least once a year. (and it didn't help)
It's also really sluggish. (I've driven a 92 corolla that was more responsive)

Yes, the Infiniti I30 has a lot of brake problems for all years that it was avaliable. My dad really get pissed at the brake problems and the squeaking just kills me. Its not that bad now that we got it "fixed" but it still comes back at times.

Our Infiniti I30T isn't sluggish. It's actually a very nice car all around. Of course I have the 2001 Infiniti I30T with a 227hp 3.0L V6. 👍

I also have a Nissan Quest but, I really hate that van. We got the older model, the newer ones are actually pretty nice.

 

[RVDNuT374]

My car, a 2000 Daewoo Lanos S Hatchback:

Pros- The A/C works extremely well to the point you have to crack the window even when it's hot as all hell outside. The 1.6L 4 cyl engine pumping out 105 HP @ 5800 RPM and 106 ft/lbs of torque @ 3000 RPM has good pickup *i've gotten it up to 70 w/out much of a problem 👍*. It has very responsive steering providing good feedback. The interior is all gray w/ a purple driver's seat cover. * I didn't put that in, although it looks cool. * There's a surprising amount of interior room for such a little car. *from bumper to bumper it only measures 160.4"* It can comfortably seat 5 people. (smaller people best fit in the back, even though I fit back there easily)

Cons- The gas gauge for some reason isn't very accurate. It seems to move while I'm driving. It'll be resting at 1/2 tank then go down below that mark for a little bit; then it'll go back to the same level as before. When the A/C is turned on, it robs the engine of power making you push the gas pedal down harder to accelerate at the same rate as when it's off. We'll have to sell it soon because we're moving back to NJ and there's no legit way to get it up there. The brakes also have a tendency to squeal when you first hit them after the car's been sitting.

Verdict- This car's impressed me w/ it's surprisngly quick acceleration and good handling. The car would be interesting to drive in a NJ winter. It was through a Minnesota winter before, so a NJ winter wouldn't be a problem. Too bad Daewoo went bankrupt though, because this car had the potential to sell way better than it did.

 

[Ev0]

Car: 1996 Chrysler Sebring JXi Convertible

Pros: -Convertible
-Very reliable
-Suspension is firm, yet provides a very smooth and comfortable ride
-Low end acceleration is good, plenty of torque
-Good sized trunk
-Provides comfortable seating for 4 people (adults might not want to spend too much time in the back though)
-Very attractive styling
-Very quiet cockpit with top down

Cons: -The fact that it's a convertible limits it from being of much use in the winter (big negative in Toronto)
-Car is big and feels heavy
-Front wheel drive limits handling (huge negative to me)
-Acceleration is almost non existent above 100km/h due to 4 spd gearbox
-V6 engine produces 170hp, the car could use more power
-Automatic transmission
-Everything in the car is electric (this means more things prone to failure)
-It lacks a CD player

Verdict: It is a great summer car, as it is about as practical as far as convertibles go, it has some sporty elements to it, and it's a pleasure to drive with the top down. But, it's not the right car for me. The fact that it's underpowered I can live with, but the mediocre handling bothers me a lot, along with the 4 speed auto which drains the car of some power, and of course, the fact that the transmission is automatic also really bugs me. It was a great car for my grandpa, but I will say it's a great car, but it's just not what I'm looking for in a car. It's a shame I can't drive it though, seeing how insurance would cost $1,000 per month. Damn insurance industry in Ontario, it's run like the Mafia. But, that deserves a whole topic itself.

 

[DrogoGTO]

1976 BMW 2002 i dont have a picture of mine, but this is a bmw 2002

Damn that is nice. I love the 2002s.

1995 Chevrolet Camaro

Pros
Stupid quick in a straight line
Sounds...loud
Disabled skip-shift is now a non-issue
Good handling
Great alpine stereo
Big rear cargo space
Cons
Reputation as yuppie mo-bile
Bad gas mileage (actually not too bad considering)
Poor visibility
Heavy
Total
Couldnt live without one!

1992 Nissan Maxima GXE

Pros
Quick enough to be fun w/o heavy insurance/gas mileage
More comfort than a cheap car should ever have
Good Stereo
Rediculously compliant gearbox
Big enough to sleep in (at skatepark and stuff)
Huge trunk
Cons
Looks like a boring car (could be a nice cop deterrant )
Heavier than it feels (4000lbs !)
Gets hot if you leave the roof open while parked
Small front tires spin easy (makes me look/feel like a dumb ricer)
Total
Good car for going to school, but I dont go to school. Fun nonetheless


2003 Ford F150

Pros

Cons
Ugly
Terrible gas mileage
Slow
Uncomfortable
Bad stereo
Hell to park
Hell in tight traffic
Total
Why do I need a tuck?

 

[Sage]

+ You have to love to sound of the flat 4.

Most beautiful engine sound in the world, isn't it? I love having the windows down when in 1st and 2nd – hearing that warbling engine ramp up is just amazing.

- 4th gear blows.

Is it really short on the Impreza? In our Outback, 4th isn't tall enough to really be useful… for example, I can't use it when climbing the grapevine (steep uphill climb along Interstate 5), because it makes the engine spin past 4000rpm (which I don't normally mind doing, but not for 6 miles), and fifth doesn't give it enough scoot unless you're going about 75mph. That's not difficult in itself, but it's not uncommon to get stuck behind a line of cars going less than 65 (since they didn't anticipate the climb), so then that totally messes up the car's momentum.

Why do I need a tuck?

Flabby cheeks?

 

[I6-4-eva]

2000 BMW 323ci

pros 👍

it's a bimmer
looks nice
and chicks like it

cons 👎

heh check the signature.
Automatic but hey it's nice in traffic! no clutch! just sit and enjoy the ride.

GTChamp2003: wow that's a nice rx-8 black looks awesome.

 

[Goomba]

'97 Talon TSi AWD
...
- Its black, looks great when its freshly washed, looks like total shiz when not
...

I feel your pain. Have you tried the Mr. Clean Auto Works? A couple of guys on ClubWRX say it works wonders on their black cars.

...
-I pay over $1,000 every 6 months for insurance
...

I would kill for you insurance. I pay $288 a month on my car, which is about $1700 over 6 months.

Most beautiful engine sound in the world, isn't it? I love having the windows down when in 1st and 2nd – hearing that warbling engine ramp up is just amazing.

👍 Couldn't of said it better myself. The Vishnu turbo back exhaust I have on there is very nice. It makes everything a bit louder, but makes it even deeper and grumblier. I'll have the heat on full blast so I can stay warm and have the windows down so I can hear the car.

Is it really short on the Impreza? In our Outback, 4th isn't tall enough to really be useful… for example, I can't use it when climbing the grapevine (steep uphill climb along Interstate 5), because it makes the engine spin past 4000rpm (which I don't normally mind doing, but not for 6 miles), and fifth doesn't give it enough scoot unless you're going about 75mph. That's not difficult in itself, but it's not uncommon to get stuck behind a line of cars going less than 65 (since they didn't anticipate the climb), so then that totally messes up the car's momentum.

The WRXs gears a little long for my liking. One reason why I'd like to find a decently priced JDM STi gears. Anywho, fourth gear seems to have next to no pull. You'll hear a lot of guys on ClubWRX who race on the streets say fourth gear is where the other cars will pull on them.

3rd gear is lovely though. 1st and 2nd both have the boost retarded to about 10 PSI, but 3rd is when you hit full boost (14.5 PSI) and when the car sucks you back as hard as it can.

 

[Victor Vance]

Since Dad's Suburban is a truck and my RA65 just recently died ( ) I'll post a review on the Roadmaster:

1993 Buick Roadmaster:

Pros:

-*puts on a Jake Blues voice* Cop suspension, cop brakes, cop battery, cop engine...
-You want dorifto? This tank can do it!
-Same 350 as in Dad's old Cheyenne 3500 dump. Torque in any gear
-Rides like a dream
-Still purring after 75,000 miles
-Passenger space galore
-Given the size of its engine, fuel economy is excellent
-Cruisin' geared transmission - 1,200 rpm at 75 mph down the highway
-It's totaled a Ford Escort and walked away with a fender dent

Cons:
-This car gets really scary at any speed over 100 on rough country roads
-It's on it's fourth climate control unit
-Steering makes an ominous-sounding 'clunk' when turned all the way to the right (even b4 the accident happened)
-Even for a 4,300 pound tank, handling is very sloppy
-Zero feedback from steering
-Stupidly oversized C-Pillars with no windows makes it a b*tch to park
-Rear fenders that cover half the wheel look geezerish
-Vynil top does not look cool
-Engine's real loud when coling fan is on
-A/C sounds like a wind tunnel
-Born before such luxury items as heated seats and CD players were common

Overall: A car that was born in 1978 enjoyed a successful life, serving to people who drive in the center lane at 40 mph, served the police (as the Caprice for the most part) and was in limo and hearse service. A reliable car with a bombproof engine, the doors will fall off before it dies. You don't see to many on the road and when it's clean it does get looks. If you're looking to go from A to B in American style while being pampered in the luxury of comfort, you can't go wrong. Keep your eyes peeled for LT1-equipped '95 and '96 models and Police Package models.

If you're looking for a track car, this is NOT for you.

 

[Blackbird.]

Most beautiful engine sound in the world, isn't it? I love having the windows down when in 1st and 2nd – hearing that warbling engine ramp up is just amazing.

I know the mustang isn't exactly a flat 4 and sounds quite different, but the roush sounds absolutely amazing too. The rumble of the pipes and the throaty sound just makes me shiver. My dad wouldn't have it any way then have the windows all the way down, even with the AC on which I dislike on a hot day like California frequently does. I could get a picture up if you guys requested but if not I wont. Overall this is such a great car for 31K it's just missing power, that's all.

 

[Flerbizky]

1999 Citroen Saxo 1.4i...

Pros:

• It's so ugly and un-styled, thieving pricks will look straight through it..
• It gets us from A to B without us getting wet..
• Serious homebuilt sub - Eminem ROCKS in this car !...

Cons:

• No power.
• Ugly as h3ll.
• Red.
• No power whatsoever.
• Slow.
• Can't overtake a lawnmover.
• Crappy quality.
• Cheap interior.
• Seats that makes your back ache after 30 minutes.
• Didn't I mention it's got NO power ?.
• No trunk space.
• Dull.
• Boring.
• Uninspiring.
• 

 

[neanderthal]

i forgot my other car, a W124 mercedes. not gonna post a pic since you all know what they look like.

mercerdes 300E 2.6 also known in earlier years as 260E


*one of the last cars that was built during mercedes "cost be damned" era.
*built like a tank. i call it my tank.
*decent power. the range had engines updated througout its ten year lifespan.
*surprising fuel economy. i can get in the low ~28s on long freeway drives at speeds higher than the limit.
*amazing stability and composure at all speeds. 120 is like 70. no bull.
*enduring good looks. clean lines, beautiful shape and proportion.
*durable interior. my interior looks new if i clean it. and by clean i mean; dust inside the car, vacuum the carpets and put armor all on the dash. the leather ion the seats isnt cracking, the wood isnt cracking, the plastics have faded horribly etc. and most of them are like that. not my brothers 525i though.
*comfy space for 5
*nice size trunk
*it oozes refinement from everywhere
*elegant engineering detail everywhere
*nice range of engines from a carburetted 2 liter inline four cyl to a mighty 5 liter twin cam 32 valve V8 with 300 plus horsepower.
*four body styles; sedan, wagon, coupe, convertible. hearse/ limousine/ ambulance bodies were also available but not widely distributed
* a serious highway cruiser. no fatigue after long drive esconced in its comfort.
*available all wheel drive
*incredible all round durability. ask any german taxi driver.
*built before before gadgets were luxury. by todays standards it wouldnt be a luxury car. its not filled with electronic doo dads and gimmickry.
*more i cant think of right now.

cons
*cops think i have money. i get a ticket when i get stopped. its inexorable, like the sun coming up tomorrow.
*poor design of head gasket and valve stem seals from the factory means a head rebuild is required after about 120000miles. thats about where i am. fortunately the problem has been corrected and once rebuilt the engine can go forver with only a freshening every few hundred thousand miles.
*some other subpar components (outsourced) like AC condensor and rear self levelling levelling (on wagons and 500E only)
*can drink that premuim at an alarming truck- like rate (mine drinks regular coz i dont drive hard. premium when i do)
*expensive parts (try $70 for key. not a key with an electonic transponder or anything; just a rubber handle part and metal tang. $200 for a headlight;used! )
*factory 195/65-15 tires a little small. 16s look nicest in a factory style.
*my engine is rather weak. 150hp. id rather have the 24valve 3 liter with 217horses. one day this shall come to pass.
*federal lights suck in comparison to later (94- 95) and euro lights.
*transmisson only a four speed auto. (also a good thing as the also available 5 speed auto was prone to failure)
*not as involving to drive as a 5 series of that era.

 

[StevieMo]

My 1987 Dakota

Pros:
-Looks good(In my opinion)
-Gets decent gas mileage
-Lots of room to haul stuff
Cons:
-Extremely dissapointing powerplant
-Weak Stereo System
-Heavy and slow
-Limited aftermarket
-Isn't low enough yet
All the cons I can think of (with one exception) can be fixed. That's pretty much my to do list for my truck.

 

[Mike Rotch]

1999 Toyota Corolla Conquest Tazz 130 Sport (a.k.a. a hatchback)

Pros:

Economical (7l/100km).
Reliable (1.3l carburettor 👍 ).
Looks ok.
Gets me from A to B on time and without much fuss.
Its not a Polo
Twin pipes as standard


Cons:

Notchy gearbox
Its a 1.3
First gear is so short, that if it were a human, it would have turnups on its underwear.
Despite being one of the "cheapest" cars available, it still cost almost $10000 used
*cough*