Prove that you exist, I dare you.

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I think, therefore I am.

And if I don't exist, then theoretically everything around me should not exist. So according to that logic, if I hit myself over the head with that non-existant hammer lying on the table, it should not hurt because neither I or the hammer exist...
 
This calls for a little experimentation in the field.

Try it, Ev0.

In any case, it won't hurt for long... :D
 
I can prove that I exist, but not to you.

As for the sole argument. I have two soles and I stomp on them every day. Beat that!

About the soul argument, I don't think that a basic lack of personality change after minor brain damage proves the existance of a soul.
 
I Occupy A Unique Singular Place In The Time-Space Continum.
Therefor I Do Exist.
Unless Something Or Someone Else Takes My Place.
I Will Always Exist.
Now I Dare You To Post An Inteligent Thread For Once.
Unless You Want To Do Somthing Dumb And Try Prove Me Wrong.
 
*Gets on a plane, flies to Scotland, and smacks Daan upside the face*
*Runs reallyreallyreally fast away*
Do I exist? I should hope so. Otherwise, PunkRock just slapped you.
 
spock
I Occupy A Unique Singular Place In The Time-Space Continum.
Therefor I Do Exist.
Unless Something Or Someone Else Takes My Place.
I Will Always Exist.
Now I Dare You To Post An Inteligent Thread For Once.
Unless You Want To Do Somthing Dumb And Try Prove Me Wrong.

So...tempting...grammar...can't...stop...

  1. You don't capitalize every word. Only the beginning of the sentence, the pronoun I, and proper nouns (names, usually).
  2. Those should not have been separated in lines. They flow together like a paragraph and should have been put that way. Trust me, I'm well-read on the matter.
  3. You call yourself American, and yet you can't spell a single post accurately. Run it through MS Word's spell-check: at least that has some idea what it's doing.
  4. Prove to me that you occupy this singular place, and I'll agree with you (for all I know, you may be a figment of my imagination).
  5. Don't even try to insult my intelligence or the intent of this thread. The thread is a philosophical discussion. At least two people have posted well-thought-out philosophies proving their own existence, while you have only said you exist because you exist. Grow a brain, and learn two things: how to use it, and just how little you know (along with how to think and say, "I don't know").

I'm done for now. And he claims the name of Spock. Great job, pointy-lobes... :dopey:
 
Jpec07
So...tempting...grammar...can't...stop...

  1. You don't capitalize every word. Only the beginning of the sentence, the pronoun I, and proper nouns (names, usually).
  2. Those should not have been separated in lines. They flow together like a paragraph and should have been put that way. Trust me, I'm well-read on the matter.
  3. You call yourself American, and yet you can't spell a single post accurately. Run it through MS Word's spell-check: at least that has some idea what it's doing.
  4. Prove to me that you occupy this singular place, and I'll agree with you (for all I know, you may be a figment of my imagination).
  5. Don't even try to insult my intelligence or the intent of this thread. The thread is a philosophical discussion. At least two people have posted well-thought-out philosophies proving their own existence, while you have only said you exist because you exist. Grow a brain, and learn two things: how to use it, and just how little you know (along with how to think and say, "I don't know").

I'm done for now. And he claims the name of Spock. Great job, pointy-lobes... :dopey:


1. No. You Has Obviously Not Read Any Of My Posts.

2. No.
I.
Will.
Wright.
On.
As.
Many.
Lines.
As.
I.
Wish.

3. No. My Spelling Should Be Of No Concern To You, Jspec.

4. No. The Fact That My Post Contains A Writing Style All Of It Own Should Be More Than Enough Evidence That I Do In Fact Exist. Telling Me I Dont Exist, While Making Me Create A Response, Which Requires My Own Idividual Though, Which In Turn Requires Me To Exist, Is Really, Really Dumb.

5. No. Who Said I Wanted To Insult You, Or Someone Else's Thread? I Mearly Said To Come Up With A Better Thread. Simple. You Cant Ask Nothing To Give You A Response Now Can You, Because I Or Anyone Else On This Board Post's Even One Word Makes Them Exist.

Just Because My Acctual Real Life Nickname Which I Have Proudly Owned Since I Was In Kindergarten, Does Not Mean I Am Uber Smart. Stop Trying To Be Some Sort Of Philosopher Or New Age Scientist jSpec.
 
spock
<1-3 eliminated because of grammatical attrocities>

Seriously, dude, it's making you look dumb. 👎

4. No. The Fact That My Post Contains A Writing Style All Of It Own Should Be More Than Enough Evidence That I Do In Fact Exist. Telling Me I Dont Exist, While Making Me Create A Response, Which Requires My Own Idividual Though, Which In Turn Requires Me To Exist, Is Really, Really Dumb.

No, actually, the fact that your posts contain attrocious grammar and a unique "style" make me more inclined to believe that you were a poorly-programmed AI, and that you in fact don't exist. At the moment, I'm really starting to think that you're just a programmed response by some under-developed bot...

5. No. Who Said I Wanted To Insult You, Or Someone Else's Thread? I Mearly Said To Come Up With A Better Thread. Simple. You Cant Ask Nothing To Give You A Response Now Can You, Because I Or Anyone Else On This Board Post's Even One Word Makes Them Exist.

Let's have a look at just what you said to me:

"Now I Dare You To Post An Inteligent Thread For Once."

The "for once" on the end of the phrase indicates that you have had past experiences with my "unintelligent" threads, and since you have determined your opinion to be that I am unintelligent and therefore yield unintelligent threads, you are essentially insulting my intelligence, and the intelligent meaning and intent behind this thread. Therefore, I turned around and told you to not insult my intelligence, because this past paragraph contains just what had gone through my mind and just what I had thought. You should have been clearer in your original post.

Now, as for your argument that a person's posting on the internet determines their existence, I must debunk that myth here and now. See, before the internet, there were computers, and with them were computer programs designed to interface a human with the computer in a very simplistic manner. As computers have advanced, so have the interfaces, to the point where I can now tell my computer to play music through the microphone and it does just that, even asking me vocally if I want the same song as I'd been playing before or if I want the volume changed or anything. Who's to say that a computer couldn't just be sitting in some warehouse somewhere attached to the internet, and that the words its interface puts out are the words that you interpret as belonging to someone who exists? It comes down to trust and the abilities and power of the human brain with respect to the power of a machine. You have not demonstrated the abilities of a human brain to me, so I continue to doubt your existence.

Just Because My Acctual Real Life Nickname Which I Have Proudly Owned Since I Was In Kindergarten, Does Not Mean I Am Uber Smart. Stop Trying To Be Some Sort Of Philosopher Or New Age Scientist jSpec.

Who said I was trying to be a philosopher or "New Age Scientist?" Personally, I'm just trying to have an intelligent conversation bouncing the ideas of my brain off other people to refine them and find out how I can improve them. I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation, any you are distracting me.

Oh, and forget the jSpec bull****, I don't care about that crap anymore. Jspec, Jpec, Jpeg: as long as it bears some semblance of my name and I know it's me, I'm fine. And when did I accuse you of being smart?

I'm gonna stop now before I flame you out so bad the mods banninate me (I'm already probably stirring up a storm amongst them just with this post and my last in this thread, so I think I'll let it rest). It's up to you if you want to pursue it, but please, do it via PM or some private message so the atmosphere isn't ruined here.
 
This Jpec07 guy is much more fun than the kinder, gentler, Jpec07 we all once knew! :D
 
Jpec07
Seriously, dude, it's making you look dumb. 👎

Thats The Exact Reason I Do It For.


No, actually, the fact that your posts contain attrocious grammar and a unique "style" make me more inclined to believe that you were a poorly-programmed AI, and that you in fact don't exist. At the moment, I'm really starting to think that you're just a programmed response by some under-developed bot...

I Know. Its Pretty Cool.

Let's have a look at just what you said to me:

"Now I Dare You To Post An Inteligent Thread For Once."

The "for once" on the end of the phrase indicates that you have had past experiences with my "unintelligent" threads, and since you have determined your opinion to be that I am unintelligent and therefore yield unintelligent threads, you are essentially insulting my intelligence, and the intelligent meaning and intent behind this thread. Therefore, I turned around and told you to not insult my intelligence, because this past paragraph contains just what had gone through my mind and just what I had thought. You should have been clearer in your original post.

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Now, as for your argument that a person's posting on the internet determines their existence, I must debunk that myth here and now. See, before the internet, there were computers, and with them were computer programs designed to interface a human with the computer in a very simplistic manner. As computers have advanced, so have the interfaces, to the point where I can now tell my computer to play music through the microphone and it does just that, even asking me vocally if I want the same song as I'd been playing before or if I want the volume changed or anything. Who's to say that a computer couldn't just be sitting in some warehouse somewhere attached to the internet, and that the words its interface puts out are the words that you interpret as belonging to someone who exists? It comes down to trust and the abilities and power of the human brain with respect to the power of a machine. You have not demonstrated the abilities of a human brain to me, so I continue to doubt your existence.

I Would Like For You To Show Me A Bot Who Can Come Up With A Response To Any Of Your Questions, Who's Response Can Accuratly Decode The Meaning Of Your Post. I Have Yet To See One Answer Any Question Posed To It Accurratly Without Any User Interaction.

If I Were To not Exist Why WOuld There Be Photo's Of Me Existing On The Internet?

I Would Like For You To Answer Me That.

Case And Point

http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach...ork/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/Ianpanning1.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach...t_work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/shauna 4.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach...t_work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/Ianstop1.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach...t_work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/Ianstop2.htm

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Or Photo's I Have Taken Of Objects That Are Existing Around Me?

http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_001.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_002.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_003.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_005.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_006.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_007.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_008.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_009.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_010.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_011.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_012.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_013.htm
http://bcc.billings.k12.mt.us/teach..._work/photo1/am_fall_2005/pages/kerrj_014.htm





Who said I was trying to be a philosopher or "New Age Scientist?" Personally, I'm just trying to have an intelligent conversation bouncing the ideas of my brain off other people to refine them and find out how I can improve them. I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation, any you are distracting me.

I Did. Can You Not See That?

Oh, and forget the jSpec bull****, I don't care about that crap anymore. Jspec, Jpec, Jpeg: as long as it bears some semblance of my name and I know it's me, I'm fine. And when did I accuse you of being smart?

Thats Exactly Why I Do It, To Annoy You.
By Calling Me Pointed Eared, Which I COnsider Offensive, As I Am Not A Vulcan Or A Pointed Eared Createure, Whatever the Hell There Called.

I'm gonna stop now before I flame you out so bad the mods banninate me (I'm already probably stirring up a storm amongst them just with this post and my last in this thread, so I think I'll let it rest). It's up to you if you want to pursue it, but please, do it via PM or some private message so the atmosphere isn't ruined here.

Atmosphere Is A Great Rap Band. Where Are They? I Dont See Them Around Here, Do You? How Can You Ruin Something That Isnt Here? But Still Exists?







Word. Yo.
 
spock
If I Were To not Exist Why WOuld There Be Photo's Of Me Existing On The Internet?

They're CGI'd by those same AIs I was telling you about. :dunce:

I say that whoever programmed you had a serious case of keyboard-diarrhea, and I'm sorry for you (if you can be sorry for a bot).
 
Still Dont Belive I Exist, jSpec?
 

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Here's an image I took of myself proving that I exist. The guy above me stole this image. This is, in fact, me. I exist, he doesn't. Don't you think my goatee looks hot? I purposefully scribbled on the sign just so that I could prove that other people who stole my picture are actually fakers... Plus! I can prove that this is me by saying that I know for a fact this was taken at a fashion convention in Idaho. Nobody else knew that!!!

It's MY crappy handwriting on that sign.




(just in case you didn't get it, this is me proving a point)
 
danoff
Here's an image I took of myself proving that I exist. The guy above me stole this image. This is, in fact, me. I exist, he doesn't. Don't you think my goatee looks hot? I purposefully scribbled on the sign just so that I could prove that other people who stole my picture are actually fakers... Plus! I can prove that this is me by saying that I know for a fact this was taken at a fashion convention in Idaho. Nobody else knew that!!!

It's MY crappy handwriting on that sign.




(just in case you didn't get it, this is me proving a point)

No Dan, its Not You.
The Picture Was Taken Minutes Ago In My Photography Class, Where I Was Surrounded By Other People Who Exist. The Scribbleing Is Not Yours, The Gotee Is Not Yours. The Billings Career Center Does Not Exist In Idaho, If You Wish I Will Post A Scan OF My Drivers License, Which Shows Me Existing As A
Driver In Montana Of The United Sates. Claiming The Picture Of Me Is In Fact Not Me, Does Not Prove That It Is Not Me. I Would Like For You Dan To Post More Pictures Of "Me", Or You As You Claim.
 
Ok to contradic what I said earlier:



Yeah my hair is that bad....
 
spock
No Dan, its Not You.
The Picture Was Taken Minutes Ago In My Photography Class, Where I Was Surrounded By Other People Who Exist. The Scribbleing Is Not Yours, The Gotee Is Not Yours. The Billings Career Center Does Not Exist In Idaho, If You Wish I Will Post A Scan OF My Drivers License, Which Shows Me Existing As A
Driver In Montana Of The United Sates. Claiming The Picture Of Me Is In Fact Not Me, Does Not Prove That It Is Not Me. I Would Like For You Dan To Post More Pictures Of "Me", Or You As You Claim.

Sorry, Spock, but I'm more inclined to believe danoff: his story's just much more believable.

And spock, besides the obvious "This class is on a fieldtrip" sign, what proof can you offer to me that picture is actually you? For all I know it was just borrowed by your AI, slightly modified, and then pasted here.

The point we're making is that your proof of existence is pathetic. We're just trying to help you think a little more is all. :)
 
spock
No Dan, its Not You.

Is too.


The Picture Was Taken Minutes Ago In My Photography Class, Where I Was Surrounded By Other People Who Exist. The Scribbleing Is Not Yours, The Gotee Is Not Yours. The Billings Career Center Does Not Exist In Idaho,

How do you explain the manequin with the jacket on then? It's clearly an Idahoan fashion show.

If You Wish I Will Post A Scan OF My Drivers License, Which Shows Me Existing As A Driver In Montana Of The United Sates.

Don't you dare steal my driver's license and take a picture of it.

Jspec
The point we're making is that your proof of existence is pathetic. We're just trying to help you think a little more is all.

👍
 
No Your Not, Your Blaently Disgregarding My Existence.
Even If I Was An AI, I Would Exist, Everything That Has Any Properties, That You Can Look At, You Can Touch, Smell, Exists, A Molecule Exists But I have yet To See One, I Have Yet To Hear One, Or Hold A Conversation With It, But It Does Exist, oes It Not?

This Post Exists, While You May not Be Able To Hold It In Your Hands, Or Punt It Across A Football Feild, Does not Mean It Does Not Exist. When Danoff Claimed he Was Me, The Only Way For Him To Claim My Identity Was For My Identity To Exist.

If I Were To Not Exist, Why Is This Converstion Between 2 Substences Of Organic Matter Over The Internet, Existing. Since I Dont Really Exist, These Post Would Have Never Existed In The First Place.

Now That I Dont Exist, You Dont Exist, The World Does Not Exist, Nothing Exists, but We Still Are Having This Conversation.

I Guess Your Right, I Must Not Exist, Even Though I Am Watching My 2 Hands Type These Words On A Keyoard In Front Of A Mac, An Object That Surely Does Not Exist.

I Dont See Why You Keep Denying My Existence, Wheather I Be A AI Construct, Or A Teenager Sitting In School, In The Middle Of Montana, A State Which Does Exist.
 
spock
No Your Not, Your Blaently Disgregarding My Existence.

You're blatently failing to prove your existances (see below).

Even If I Was An AI, I Would Exist, Everything That Has Any Properties, That You Can Look At, You Can Touch, Smell, Exists, A Molecule Exists But I have yet To See One, I Have Yet To Hear One, Or Hold A Conversation With It, But It Does Exist, oes It Not?

I don't know. Prove it. You claim that if you were AI you would exist. That since I can see, touch, or hear you - that prove that you exist. But it doesn't. Perhaps I am imagining this entire discussion. Perhaps the whole thing is a hallucination of mine. Prove to me that you're not a hallucination. Prove to me that my perceptions (taste, touch, smell) are real.

This Post Exists, While You May not Be Able To Hold It In Your Hands, Or Punt It Across A Football Feild, Does not Mean It Does Not Exist. When Danoff Claimed he Was Me, The Only Way For Him To Claim My Identity Was For My Identity To Exist.

Perhaps I don't exist. Perhaps you're simply imagining that I claimed your identity. Perhaps God is tricking you into thinking that I exist when in fact only God exists.

If I Were To Not Exist, Why Is This Converstion Between 2 Substences Of Organic Matter Over The Internet, Existing.

I think you just went circular on yourself. Prove to me that this conversation exists. Prove to me that 2 substances of organic matter are conversing. Perhaps I am imagining the discussion.

Now That I Dont Exist, You Dont Exist,

I can prove to myself that I exist. I know I have thoughts. I know this because I perceive something which I call a thought. I define myself to be the thinker of my thoughts. That much I can prove - but only to myself.

I Guess Your Right, I Must Not Exist, Even Though I Am Watching My 2 Hands Type These Words On A Keyoard In Front Of A Mac, An Object That Surely Does Not Exist.

Are you typing? I don't know that. I can't see your hands. Even if I could how can I trust my eyes or ears? How do I know that my brian interprets their signals correctly - or that I even have eyes or ears? You cannot know that your hands are typing. Perhaps you're imagining your hands typing.
 
Smarterchild exists. He just types quickly and doesn't understand basic phrases or slang.

And he has no concept of "shut up".
 
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